Rebuilding past 1st level?


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Welp, it seems I done goofed. I'm having a blast play Society games and now I'm one adventure away from 3rd level! And whilst deciding on what feat and items to get in preparation... I happened upon the Forerunner archetype, which previously I never gave a second thought to, and realized it'd be perfect for my character.

So my question is this: given the 1st-level rebuild is no longer an option, how can I still legally rebuild my character? My guess is splurging on a mnemonic editor, but while I have the funds, the item level seems to be a bit too high for me at Level 5 for even a Mk 1 model. What can I do?

And as a corollary to this, in the event Paizo releases more archetypes, feats, etc. in the future, how would one go about incorporating those into an existing character? Thanks in advance for your help!

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IfritSlasher wrote:
So my question is this: given the 1st-level rebuild is no longer an option, how can I still legally rebuild my character? My guess is splurging on a mnemonic editor, but while I have the funds, the item level seems to be a bit too high for me at Level 5 for even a Mk 1 model. What can I do?

Check out the "Basic Purchasing Plan" boon on page 27. Those purchases are not limited by Item Level. The Mk 1 mnemonic editor is 4 Fame.

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And as a corollary to this, in the event Paizo releases more archetypes, feats, etc. in the future, how would one go about incorporating those into an existing character? Thanks in advance for your help!

We'll see when that material releases!

It is extremely unlikely that we will be allowed to swap out feats, archetypes, etc. that we have already selected just because something new has been published. We should be able to use new material that doesn't conflict with our existing build (such as a 6th level character taking a new feat when she would normally gain one at 7th level), but not conflicting material (such as a 6th level solarion wanting to use a new archetype that replaces 2nd and 4th level class abilities).

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Retraining is covered in the CRB beginning on page 27.

Retraining wrote:
In general, decisions made about your character when leveling up are permanent; you can’t go back and change his ability scores, feats, skills, and so forth later on. For characters who desperately want to change their past and replace abilities, however, there is a technological solution: the mnemonic editor, a device by which old knowledge and abilities can be edited out of your character’s brain and permanently replaced with new ones, thus allowing you to partially rebuild your character...

So looking at mnemnoic editor:

mnemonic editor, page 227 wrote:

If you use a mnemonic editor, you can undo 2 character levels’ worth of decisions about which class levels you took, which feats

you selected, how you applied any level-based increases to ability scores, how you assigned new skill ranks, and so on. All decisions you made as a result of advancing over the previous 2 character levels you gained are undone. You then make new selections, including new class levels, feats, skills, and the like, as if you had regained the 2 missing character levels. Go through the normal process of advancing your character through each of these 2 levels.

It looks like can do it until you hit 4th level.


Kevin Willis wrote:
IfritSlasher wrote:
So my question is this: given the 1st-level rebuild is no longer an option, how can I still legally rebuild my character? My guess is splurging on a mnemonic editor, but while I have the funds, the item level seems to be a bit too high for me at Level 5 for even a Mk 1 model. What can I do?
Check out the "Basic Purchasing Plan" boon on page 27. Those purchases are not limited by Item Level. The Mk 1 mnemonic editor is 4 Fame.

I guess I missed that part too! Thanks again!

Liberty's Edge 1/5 5/55/55/55/5 ** Venture-Captain, Illinois—Fairview Heights

Keep in mind that for society play you can't purchase the Mk 1 Mnemonic Editor (ilvl 5) with credits until level 4. This means you can, at level 4, go back and correct level 2 or 3, but not level 1. Unless you gain access to a Mk 1 Mnemonic editor at level 3, via a chronicle sheet or boon, you cannot do a level 1 rebuild once you hit level 2. As of this writing, no chronicle sheet (scenario of AP) grants access to a Mk 1 Mnemonic editor.

This does not preclude using fame to purchase.


Kevin Willis wrote:


Quote:
And as a corollary to this, in the event Paizo releases more archetypes, feats, etc. in the future, how would one go about incorporating those into an existing character? Thanks in advance for your help!

We'll see when that material releases!

It is extremely unlikely that we will be allowed to swap out feats, archetypes, etc. that we have already selected just because something new has been published. We should be able to use new material that doesn't conflict with our existing build (such as a 6th level character taking a new feat when she would normally gain one at 7th level), but not conflicting material (such as a 6th level solarion wanting to use a new archetype that replaces 2nd and 4th level class abilities).

Late follow-up response, but update! With the new Pact Worlds book coming out this month, it looks like I'd best hold off on the mnemonic editing till I can see all the new options I'd have at my disposal! Luckily, as Gary said, I'm low enough level to pull it off, but it still leaves me curious about the future. Remains to be seen, I guess!

Jacob Rennels wrote:

Keep in mind that for society play you can't purchase the Mk 1 Mnemonic Editor (ilvl 5) with credits until level 4. This means you can, at level 4, go back and correct level 2 or 3, but not level 1. Unless you gain access to a Mk 1 Mnemonic editor at level 3, via a chronicle sheet or boon, you cannot do a level 1 rebuild once you hit level 2. As of this writing, no chronicle sheet (scenario of AP) grants access to a Mk 1 Mnemonic editor.

This does not preclude using fame to purchase.

I see! Thanks for the clarification! Good thing I have Fame to spare!

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