Writings on the wall


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I knew it.

Back when the technology guide came out I figured Pathfinder was a few adjustments away from a sci-fantasy campaign. I even ran one long before Starfinder came out. Heck, before it was announced I mentioned that the technology guide was testing the waters for some sort of Space Adventures book and now we have Starfinder.

Before that, Pathfinder Unchained seemed to have some things that development wanted to have but edition purity wouldn't allow that so they're now optional rules. I remember it's being accused of being an elaborate Secret Pathfinder Next playtest. Therefore I hereby accuse Paizo of planning this for years and have been releasing material to test our tolerance. Hybrid classes are there specifically to test Pathfinder 2e class features for core classes. Other releases have systems that are secretly new versions of class features.

Anybody else with me? Any other ok men's of 2nd edition from PF1?

Silver Crusade

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Are you accusing paizo of learning game design lessons from a decade of designing and publishing their game!!?

How deep does this conspiracy go?


More of running covert playtests.

Silver Crusade

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The list of topics in this subforum is slowly starting to look like a track list of some Religious Nu Metal album from 2002:

1. Writings on the Wall
2. Gazing into the Abyss
3. The Worst Idea Imaginable (feat. Michael Bolton)
4. An Impassioned Plea
5. Please This, Not That
6. Simplicity (feat. Nicky Minaj)
7. Risen Nocticula (feat. John Waters)

Liberty's Edge

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The horror. Testing out concepts to see whether they work or not. It's almost like their job is to design games.


Samy wrote:
The horror. Testing out concepts to see whether they work or not. It's almost like their job is to design games.

How dare they.


Heh if you have been around a hwile there are always clues a new edition is on the way.

1. Products start getting more and more niche.
2. Products with major new subsytems and DM stuff come out.
3. Existing product lines slow down or stop.
4. It gets harder to find new players

Basically this all happened in late 1E, 2E and 3E. People saw what they wanted to see much like when 4E was dying and the hardcore players refused to admit that Pathfinder for example was the new hotness (and now 5E).

If you're lucky you get around 10 years, even 4E planned for 10 years (read the 4E PHB).

Silver Crusade Contributor

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Gorbacz wrote:

The list of topics in this subforum is slowly starting to look like a track list of some Religious Nu Metal album from 2002:

1. Writings on the Wall
2. Gazing into the Abyss
3. The Worst Idea Imaginable (feat. Michael Bolton)
4. An Impassioned Plea
5. Please This, Not That
6. Simplicity (feat. Nicky Minaj)
7. Risen Nocticula (feat. John Waters)

Based on the featuring credits, I think that's a Lonely Island album.

Silver Crusade

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Kalindlara wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

The list of topics in this subforum is slowly starting to look like a track list of some Religious Nu Metal album from 2002:

1. Writings on the Wall
2. Gazing into the Abyss
3. The Worst Idea Imaginable (feat. Michael Bolton)
4. An Impassioned Plea
5. Please This, Not That
6. Simplicity (feat. Nicky Minaj)
7. Risen Nocticula (feat. John Waters)

Based on the featuring credits, I think that's a Lonely Island album.

I got two singles on it. I hope they chart ^w^

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