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I'm not, thank you for the link! But it looks like it's only for PFS? I'm a bit leery about PFS, due to Things I've Heard.

But I do plan to run a 2e pbem DD game, so huzzah!

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May I help you with the things you’ve heard? Sometimes the things said about Organized Play are true, and sometimes they aren’t. I’d be happy to help you sort the hearsay so that you have a fuller picture. I consider myself something of an expert on Organized Play’s advantages and drawbacks. It’s not for everyone, but then what is?

Also, remember that PBP PFS can be far richer than in person games, and with a lot of gentle wackiness to boot.

:)

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I'll definitely speak to PbP being a richer experience in many ways than in-person PFS. Which reminds me, Hmm... I should really do another PbP game, if you know anyone who's looking for another (probably level 1-3) character. ^_^


Yes, please and thank you! I'll DM you to avoid derailing this thread. ^_^


From what I have seen of the new edition play test blogs second edition of pathfinder is looking like 5th edition D&D with the same action and reaction economy set up. The simplification of monster stat blocks also remind me of D&D 5th ed. Then we have Backgrounds like in 5th edition.

Do we really need a new edition or is this just a case of keeping pace with D&D? Will all, if any, of my current 1st edition books be compatible with second edition? How much of a change are we looking at here? is it the same level of change AS D&D 3.5 to Pathfinder 1 or is it more similar in scope to D&D 3.5 to say 4th or 5th ed?

Will Pathfinder first ed continue to be supported at all? I have stuck with pathfinder because I found first edition to be the perfect system and stuck with for so long because each subsequent edition of D&D just got farther and farther away from what was great about 3rd ed and pathfinder.

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Darth PUGS! wrote:

From what I have seen of the new edition play test blogs second edition of pathfinder is looking like 5th edition D&D with the same action and reaction economy set up. The simplification of monster stat blocks also remind me of D&D 5th ed. Then we have Backgrounds like in 5th edition.

Do we really need a new edition or is this just a case of keeping pace with D&D? Will all, if any, of my current 1st edition books be compatible with second edition? How much of a change are we looking at here? is it the same level of change AS D&D 3.5 to Pathfinder 1 or is it more similar in scope to D&D 3.5 to say 4th or 5th ed?

It's the latter, though the end product won't resemble 4E or 5E much, IMO. It's definitely a similar level of change, though.

I posted a selection of seeming differences earlier, and will repost it now:

Deadmanwalking wrote:
bdub wrote:
What I want to know is what about this new edition will entice people to make the jump.

Evidence suggests it provides three major things as compared to 5E:

1. Vastly increased customization. For a lot of 5E characters, all your meaningful choices are made by 3rd level (maybe 5th if you have a Feat you need), and you never made all that many to start with (Class, Race, Archetype...very little else, even Background tending not matter all that much). PF2 has at least one serious choice every level you gain, and at least a couple more even at 1st level (Feats almost every level, Skills actually being something you can invest in over time, etc.).

2. Higher Power Level/Character Level Matters More. In PF2 you add your full character level to, well, a lot of things including attacks and AC, meaning that level matters a lot more in terms of character abilities. The opposite of bounded accuracy, high level characters can waltz through low level enemies like they are nothing. In a related matter, high level martial characters get to do stuff like run on air, leap twenty feet up and drag flying enemies down with them, and similar epic feats. It's just a lot less 'low key' in some ways than a lot of 5E stuff.

3. Content. Paizo don't seem to be planning to slow down their book schedule, which means you're going to be getting way more hardcover rulebooks for PF2 than D&D5E. Plus the Adventure Paths. Plus all the other stuff. 5E's mostly had a fairly sedate release schedule. PF2 seems unlikely to follow suit in that regard. It also gives you access to Golarion, which is a fun world as kitchen sink fantasy worlds go, and already has a lot of information available about it.

Additionally, and this may only matter to me, but the monster design for PF2 seems more concerned with giving them things to do outside of combat, which is something fundamentally lacking in a lot of 5E monsters (and was always the reason I could never run that game).

So yeah, significant differences.

Darth PUGS! wrote:
Will Pathfinder first ed continue to be supported at all? I have stuck with pathfinder because I found first edition to be the perfect system and stuck with for so long because each subsequent edition of D&D just got farther and farther away from what was great about 3rd ed and pathfinder.

It will not. At least not by Paizo. This is unfortunate, but an inevitable consequence of new editions.


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I wouldn't call it inevitable. I would call it predictable. Matter of resources.


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Deadmanwalking wrote:
Darth PUGS! wrote:

Will Pathfinder first ed continue to be supported at all? I have stuck with pathfinder because I found first edition to be the perfect system and stuck with for so long because each subsequent edition of D&D just got farther and farther away from what was great about 3rd ed and pathfinder.

It will not. At least not by Paizo. This is unfortunate, but an inevitable consequence of new editions.

Sure, if "support" only means "put out new content, extra effort toward answering questions, errata with new printings, etc." It's worth calling out that Paizo is still going to sell the PDFs and they're going to keep the main 1e rulebooks in print as the paperback pocket editions.

Frankly, that's pretty cool. Some companies don't even let you buy PDFs of their current systems, never mind keeping any copies of their old ones in print (albeit paperback). There are so many core books available that I've barely even touched, content-wise, never mind all the adventure paths and modules and everything else. Just keeping those available as PDFs is more support than most systems ever get.


Darth PUGS! wrote:


Will Pathfinder first ed continue to be supported at all? I have stuck with pathfinder because I found first edition to be the perfect system and stuck with for so long because each subsequent edition of D&D just got farther and farther away from what was great about 3rd ed and pathfinder.

Yes, P1E will still continued to be supported.

Some who posted above have not been clear on this.

What this means as far as support is that many of the rulebooks for P1E will continue to be printed as long as there are people buying them and they prove to be a source of income.

These books have been reprinted in new form and started to be released in these new forms about a year ago.

They are smaller sized, or digest sized rulebooks. The books published that I think I can confirm would be the CRB, Bestiary, APG, ACG, Bestiary 2, Bestiary 3, Ultimate Combat, Ultimate Magic.

The creation of new materials (as opposed to what they already have created, which amounts to over 120 adventures...many guides...etc) will cease after around August of 2019. The older books mentioned above will still be published though.

Thus groups that stick with P1E and get new players will still be able to have those new players buy rulebooks and other items they may need to play P1e.


So we can just download the PDF for the play test tomorrow right? Is their a certain time?


Vidmaster7 wrote:
So we can just download the PDF for the play test tomorrow right? Is their a certain time?

9 AM Eastern.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
So we can just download the PDF for the play test tomorrow right? Is their a certain time?

9AM US Eastern time, also stated to be 6AM US Pacific Time


Vidmaster7 wrote:
So we can just download the PDF for the play test tomorrow right? Is their a certain time?

9 am, EDT


sweet so 8 am for me and thank you Joana and all you ninja's that followed.


SOON!


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I hope the new boards are scheduled to go online at about the same time. I have questions.

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