Thirteenth Doctor


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"The Girl Who Fell From The Stars"

And this is supposed to be the Opening Credits.
If it is, it looks unfinished to me.
Like they still have several more passes to do before final product.


That's a fan-made trailer. It says so in the description of the video.

The BBC just released the actual logo and it looks thusly.

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Didn't see that.
Thanks for correcting my mistake.

BTW - Somehow this thread got posted twice.
Could one of the Paizo SuperTechs please take care of (exterminate) the other one.
Thanks.


And watched the first episode

nicely quirky with a very cool villain


Oh i'm Excited.


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It's certainly a relief to watch a Doctor Who episode with a well-told story and not something where the people involved threw crap at the wall and waited for something to stick.


I like this version of the Doctor!

--C.


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Decent plus start. If it keeps up like this we'll have the most solid season in forever.

Can I just say how glad I am Moffat is gone?
It remains to be seen if the successor is any better but it would be an impressive feat to be worse.


I just wondered where they're going story wise...and also not sure I care for a TARDIS-less Doctor...even if it does advance stuff.

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Spoilers please.
Some of us didn't get to see it.


Oh. Sorry! I thought that was known...


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That iconic thing that was missing from the season premiere will likely be showing up sooner than later. There are leaked photos of the iconic thing on the Internet, and I'm pretty sure the budget-minded BBC isn't going to spend what looks to be a considerable chunk of money on the iconic thing if it isn't going to see a lot of use this season.

My guess is the iconic thing will likely show up in next week's episode. The premiere was already jam-packed with stuff, and saving the iconic thing's appearance an extra week may let us all appreciate it even more.

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I think Whittaker knocked it out of the park with easily one of the strongest debuts of a new Doctor incarnation. I like the new companions too, even if I'm a bit hesitant about 1) how they'll handle Ryan's condition, and b) that there couldn't have been some better way to set up the Ryan & Graham dynamic than

Spoiler:
Grace's death.

I think the writing could have been tighter, but it was still easily better than nearly anything Moffat has done recently on either Who or Sherlock.


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I just wondered where they're going story wise...and also not sure I care for a TARDIS-less Doctor...even if it does advance stuff.

He's been without it before. As I recall 3 was grounded on Earth by the Time Lords for a good long while.


Yes, but he still had the TARDIS even if it didn't work.


It was... ok.

The monster of the week was horrendously stupid, a worse rehash of the Ice Warriors of Mars.

The characters. Mixed bag to be honest.
Khan has a lot of potential. The eager trainee that wants to do more has a lot of drive and space for motivation.

The new Doctor seemed to be channelling Tennant at his most manic, which could be good or super annoying, really quickly.

The rest are fairly forgettable. Either entirely too cliche (the Doubter, the Caring Nurse) or of limited utility (Check Social Media Man). There is also a worry that the writers will simply check in with his disability every week and never develop the character. At this point, he's entirely defined by it, with a boring job he doesn't really care about and vague training/education prospects that will never really happen. (Assuming they're even real and not just that thing you say when you run into an old friend from school who actually has a career)

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But it was a solidly average Doctor Who episode with nothing particularly standing out, or anything particularly enraging or horribly stupid.

Except the plothole of how those two scrawny guys carried a probably 500+ pound pod out of a forest when it was 'too cold to touch.' Or found it at all. In the dark. Based on 'weather patterns'


Definitely getting the Tennant vibe from 13, which as Tennant is my favorite, is definitely a good thing.


Since Tennant is my least favorite, that's not a good thing in my book. I'm hoping she'll calm down a bit and avoid stupid stuffing her fingers in her nose type nonsense.


Honest Trailers - Doctor Who (Modern)


I totally dug today's Honest Trailer. And honestly while some might think Whittaker is being over the top, let's remember she's still VERY new to being...you know her. And the Doctor.


Honest Trailers - Doctor Who (Classic)

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Behind the Scenes of the new TARDIS

Dark Archive

Just where did that stray bit of regeneration energy get off to?


I'm hoping it lands on Captain Jack Harkness! :)


Eh Jacks got enough regeneration energy to last 4,999,800,053 years


NO SPOILERS

Episode two left me a bit flat.

Not sure why. Plot was fine. Setting I liked and quiet gamey to boot.
Was there too much use of the sonic screwdriver?

duuno
Will re-watch and see how that goes


For me it was doubling down on the terrible initial monster of the week, adding Harry Potter monsters that drop key season-long plot points for no reason, and Sonicing everything, even things easily opened (and then forgetting to close) by hand.

Needs more face time with the characters to be honest, and less sticking little handlebar Moustaches on the previous week's failed monster.


To me, it felt rushed; a downside of having 3 companions, a still-new Doctor, and 2 episode-specific characters, all of whom needed at least some building and fleshing out, on top of the episode's actual plot. The ending (for the 2 episode characters) seemed especially rushed.

Even the opening sequence seemed short and rushed, but that may just be, again, the more names that need to appear there.

The police woman companion still needs more characterization, compared to the other two, imo, but I generally like all four of the main characters so far.


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This takes me back to the 5th Doctor, the one I started with. He also had three companions -- but in his case, he inherited them from the 4th Doctor.

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(nods) Tonight's episode was like something we haven't seen in a very long time, a mostly historical adventure, akin to Marco Polo.

I like the way this series is shaping up.

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If you are a grognard without cable, how do you watch the new season? Is it streaming?


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If you are a grognard without cable, how do you watch the new season? Is it streaming?

Popcorn time


DQ,

Any episodes I miss, I watch via cable since I don't think Dish covers it...otherwise BBC America is the way to go.


Unfortunately my cable company, Wide Open West, dropped BBCA over a contract dispute.

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Yeah, I don't have cable.

Looks like you can buy episodes on the usual buy-episodes services (Amazon, GooglePlay, etc.).


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Or you could just wait for the DVD release next year.


Or move to the UK!


They had to go and make a Giant spider episode... opposed! I miss moffat making normal things scary not making things that already freak me out that much worse!


Interesting decision to make the stereotypical bad-guy CEO a Trump-hater...


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More of an envious rival than someone who disapproves of Trumpolini's methods and morals.


Yeah I picked up on the rival thing right away. What you think people like that would like people just like themselves? Why heck no they hate each other even more so!


I'm enjoying the season so far. It's solved some of my biggest complaints about the last 5-6 years of DW.

Also, it's really nice to have a more "monster of the week" vibe to it again. There are a lot of shows, and many of them I enjoy, that are really just long movies split into 40-60 min chunks. There are some possible threads running through these episodes, but mostly they're self-contained stories. Any building from one episode to the next is mostly about the characterization. Yes I am waiting for the next episode, but I'm just waiting to see it. I'm not waiting to see how the last episode relates to the overall story.


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The New Years Day episode was a nice take on an old issue


For me it was nice to see a classic Doctor Who villain again after some really boring ones, honestly.


Oh that was a good one.

At first I was thinking of those 2D aliens from Cappaldi's run but that reveal at the end.

Nice.


Yeah like I said about the last New Year's Day episode (though this is a two parter) this is a NICE use of a classic Doctor Who villain.

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People's opinions of the Season 12 finale?

I'm kind of hoping it's all a scam or a dream or something.


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I liked it. Overall, I enjoy the writing of season 11 and 12 more than the collective quality from the previous 5-6 seasons. That said, I hope we get back to more random hijinks instead of universe ending plot lines based on the Doctor's identity.

I think the show is best when it is the Doctor showing us the universe and not the opposite.


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I actually kind of liked it. Time Lord Lore remains relatively unchanged, but this unshackles the Doctor from it. Plus it opens up a new sense of mystery. The Doctor is a Unique Entity adrift in the Universe. IT gives future writer a lot more room to play with, plus for the viewer...we can no longer be certain about the "rules" of the series.

It's a very large injection of the Unknown


I'm okay with it in the sense we got to see a new breed of Cybermen. So...there was that.


Irontruth wrote:

I liked it. Overall, I enjoy the writing of season 11 and 12 more than the collective quality from the previous 5-6 seasons. That said, I hope we get back to more random hijinks instead of universe ending plot lines based on the Doctor's identity.

I think the show is best when it is the Doctor showing us the universe and not the opposite.

The Chibnall Era is certainly showing so far as being more consistent than the previous two, which had higher highs but much lower lows: Chibnall doesn't seem in any danger of writing a Blink, but he's also not written a Love & Monsters (or to pick on his own older work, a Cyberwoman).

This latest episode did a good job of addressing a lot of niggling old canon questions that had been floating around since at least 1971 (when the Third Doctor declared he was thousands of years old which was hugely out of keeping with the dates given before or after that episode) whilst not totally upsetting the apple cart, as some people were expecting (with the idea that the humans who went through the boundary became the Time Lords, or the Doctor and the Master were the same being at different points in their lifespan).

As far as I can tell, a lot of the people screaming online about the episode "breaking Doctor Who canon" don't have the first idea about Doctor Who canon in the first place (even disregarding the official line since the 1960s that there is pretty much no official Doctor Who canon, at least in the continuity sense).

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