I'm just here for moral support... Instilling fear & inspiring courage...


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Idea:
Human with a longspear...
Gendarme Cavalier.... Levels 1-2
Fighter Gladiator.... Level 3
Fighter Viking....... Level 4
Bard Arcane Duelist.. Levels 5-20

Dazzling Display as a standard action, and intimidate as a move action. With the intent of picking up a dazzling radiance weapon enchantment ASAP.

Feats:
1. Flagbearer
1. Power Attack
1. Intimidating Prowess
2. Dazzling Display
3. Performance Weapon Mastery
3. Violent Display
3. Hurtful
4. Combat Reflexes

5. - 20. Usual Bard stuff working towards Grandmaster Performer. And saving for the Banner of Ancient Kings.

Human for the feat. Cavalier makes the Flagbearer feat make sense and for a horse and Dazzling Display as a standard action. Gladiator for the Performance Weapon Mastery, which goes well with the cavalier challenge feature. Viking for the fearsome intimidation on a move action. And a dazzling radiance weapon enchantment essentially does Color Spray every time I use Dazzling Display... Forcing a saving throw.

The challenge would count as performance combat, so I think that works everything into a complete package.

Arcane Duelist is simply to be somewhat useful later bringing Disruptive and Spellbreaker to the battlefield later in the game.

Not anything scary, but hopefully useful. The levels in Cavalier and Fighter help with Fort saves and BAB. I'm not trying to be completely fear based, just wanted to be useful with multiple avenues to intimidate.

What do you think?

PS. I'm not interested in the non-lethal Enforcer intimidation munchkin madness.


So it's Flagbearer + Banner of the Ancient Kings Bard #64829274538 for PFS? Okay. Now you just need Dervish Dance + Shocking Grasp Magus #84962537 and Sacred Tattoo + Fate's Favored Warpriest #917253, and you'll win the award for "Group with most overused PFS builds."


Well, one problem with that is that the Viking and Gladiator archetypes don't stack. You can't just take "level 2 from the Viking archetype" after 1 level of Gladiator - you have to take "level 2 Fighter" with whatever archetypes you've got. Both of those replace Bravery, AND both modify armor proficiencies. Therefore, you can never have them both on the same character (unless the GM changes the rules for you.)

Second... you might be cautious about that weapon enhancement. It affects all creatures, not just your enemies.

Thirdly, the horse is going to die, and messily, by the time you take a couple Bard levels. It's not going to advance once you stop taking Cavalier levels. 3d8+6 HP on something that's going to be within 15' of the enemy (for the weapon property) is not going to last long at all. It might even fry to the very first Fireball you run into. Also, because the weapon property doesn't exclude allies, you're going to be throwing constant DC17 saves vs. blindness at your poor Fort +5 mount.


Wait, dazzling radiance will hit my allies as well? That's just stupid. Scratch that off the list.

If I took one level of an archetype and then went vanilla, wouldn't I still have Bravery, so why can't I just get out of Gladiator before it replaces bravery, and step into Viking where it can replace it? Both of them nix heavy armor. I really don't see the problem. Can't Bards use shields anyways, not that I am going to, but who cares?

I just figured it would be really easy to role-play this character because I am already kind of obnoxious. And it should be useful spamming intimidation on the battlefield whilst inspiring courage for my allies.

Not for PFS, note also, it goes to level 20.

I didn't say it was the first or only, just fun and useful... But thanks for letting me know which number I am.

Dark Archive

You can't just step out of an archetype: once you choose an archetype, you keep it for life unless you train out of it, which means you lose any abilities the archetype granted you in the first place.


Sorry for my snippy-ness, I just get a little triggered by obvious same-y builds that most everyone currently runs simply because it's hip and fabulous (and powerful). (I also highly dislike pop music, if that's any further indication.)

Call me an Inverted Stormwind Fallacy advocate.


I don't really need anything from the Gladiator. Just liked the flavor with the Performance Weapon Mastery and going into Bard.

Just 2 levels of Viking, then.

Ditch Violent Display, pick up Furious Focus instead.

That's so lame that dazzling radiance hits everyone. But can still be useful if I am careful. Being able to spam Dazzling Display/dazzling radiance/Color Spray as a standard action without wasting spell slots could be situationally awesome. Just have to walk a couple squares away from the nearest teammate.

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