Object possession on the Apparatus of the Mantis.


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So I just got a chronicle that allows me to buy a special version of the Apparatus of the Crab but at cheaper cost, it even has ways to enhance it's armor and weapons.

But what happens when I would use object possession on it? Would it suddenly lose about 130 of it's hitpoints, 7 hardness and would it's pincers suddenly fly off, Or would it be the same but with my BAB added to the attack bonus of it's pincers? Or would it get even more confusing?? Help me out here please...

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As the GM for this character (SPOILERS for Abducted in Aether!):

Apparatus of the Mantis:
Apparatus of the Mantis: You have recovered a unique apparatus of the crab in the shape of a giant
mantis shrimp. You can purchase this unique apparatus of the mantis for 60,000 gp rather than its
normal cost. Instead of claws, it has two slam attacks that gain a +2 circumstance bonus on attack rolls
underwater but otherwise behave as an apparatus of the crab’s pincer attacks. You can enchant this pair
of slam attacks as it they were a single masterwork weapon, and you can enchant the apparatus’s body
as though it were a suit of masterwork full plate; this does not increase the device’s hardness. For the
purpose of using Fame to qualify for enhancements, treat both the slams and body as though their base
cost were each 10,000 gp.

Apparatus of the Crab.

Large animated object.

I'd personally rule it as it retaining its original stats, as it seems strange if it suddenly loses three-quarters of its HP and the like. But since you're driving it, I would say something happens to its attack modifier, but I have no idea what, exactly. Your BAB, its Strength/size modifier? Personally, I'd avoid looking at the Animated Object listing entirely, because that's a generic animated object this thing obviously deviates from. But I have no knowledge about this subject, so I'm not a reliable source (my interpretation of its HP and hardness doesn't seem to match OP's), so correct me if I'm wrong.

As a total aside, is the only real way of moving and attacking through rolling the d10, even outside of combat? That seems... unpractical.

Anyway, it's maybe a cheesy build, but since it's a fifth-level spell, I'll happily encourage these shenanigans. It's either going to take a boatload of scrolls, or a boatload of levels before this becomes viable, in addition to the 60.000 GP it already takes to buy this. I want to support these kinds of nonsense.

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The spell does what it says it does. It becomes the large animated construct statblock.

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Sorry for a bit of the necro, but was searching for something else and stumbled into this.

When you use animate object you magically change the material the object is made from in the process. when you look at how the object is animated it states that no matter what it is the hardness of wood---unless you spend the construction points to be harder. At large you don't have enough to get the same hardness as the original material.

So either the Gm rewards you extra for the material, or it becomes magically a wooden, version of it's prior thing. One big point in favor of this, is that you can't get the construction points early for a small adamantine dagger to make it an adamaintine animated object. Either the GM grants you bonus points by making it one, or by the basics of the rules it magically is now wooden.

Ahem. On that note...

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uaw8?Pierce-the-Heavens-A-Pathfinders-Guide-to

If your wanting to use that spell, you could buy a suit of armor fitted to be a unique shape and there is a little advice here for you. Ha ha ha.

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