Pathfinder line slump?


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Also I don't think their is a General agreement about ANYTHING on these forums.
Yeah, I’m struggling to think of many examples. :o

The most FAQ'd FAQ that ever FAQ'd was something everyone agreed was needed, and I think there was something like one person who commented negatively about it after it was FAQ'd.


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Since they are cutting down campaign setting books I just hope that we would still see the same (if not more) places focused on like Kyonin, Five Kings Mountains, places outside the Inner Sea, etc.

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Having played both 5E and PF, I will say I like PF a lot more but that is because the customization is so very, very low. When I started playing back in 3.5 the only thing I was allowed to play from was the Player's Handbook. I had lots of the other books though, and desperately wanted to use the options in them.

Fast forward a bit and the Advanced Player's Guide for Pathfinder brings us Archetypes! Some of which stack with others! It was amazing and allowed for character customization and I loved it.

5E is not a bad game, but something myself and another player have noticed is how much everyone is the same. We had a Barbarian, a Ranger, a Rogue, a Monk, and a Warlcok and except for the Warlock's spells we were all interchangeable.

I find it a bit boring when your choices don't matter.

All that said, if they slow things down to deal with an increased workload, maybe things like the drake archetypes and shifter won't happen again and we'll get better designed products.

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Dragonborn3 wrote:


5E is not a bad game, but something myself and another player have noticed is how much everyone is the same. We had a Barbarian, a Ranger, a Rogue, a Monk, and a Warlcok and except for the Warlock's spells we were all interchangeable.

I find it a bit boring when your choices don't matter.

Starfinder currently has that problem but with them already announcing 2 solid sounding products for this year, I suspect by summer us Starfinder players will have a lot of good options and variety with only more to look forward to.

Even then, some of the options that are being labeled as "not as good" in Starfinder are proving to be more viable then initially thought during theory crafting when put into actual play

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Removed some posts inciting edition warring. There is no need to air grievances about other RPGs in this thread. Additionally, this is not the thread to get into tangents about which specific rules you would change.


Dragon78 wrote:

I would love more dex to damage options especially for more then rapier and starknife. Though having to use three or more feats to get it is a bit much.

Splitting up their focus wouldn't be so bad if I actually liked Starfinder.

Personally I don't understand the popularity of 5E but too each their own.

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5E is a bit more simple less moving parts (less spells, feats, skill points etc).

Less complex games tend to appeal to casual players more, not just RPGs. Things like Tetris and Super Mario for example will sell buckloads.

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Wouldent be so annoyed with the cutting back of the campaign setting line from 12 a year to 6 if two of those slots werent taken up by the map packs for the Ap's


master_marshmallow wrote:
I wonder if WOTC has freelance insurgents to sow doubt in PFRPG?

WotC couldn't keep its *own* forum going. I kinda doubt they have the bandwidth to sow anything in anyone else's.

Doug M.


A couple of things that haven't been mentioned. Pathfinder Tales has been in limbo, with no new books published for well over a year now. Some of that was beyond Paizo's control -- they realized the deal they had with Tor wasn't that great. But it's been over a year and they haven't found a new deal, and it's unclear how hard they've actually been looking. (There's a recent online interview with Erik Mona that discusses PFT, but it doesn't really touch this point.) At this point it looks very unlikely we'll see any new PFT books in calendar year 2018.

Also, we've been a good long time without a module. It looks like the next one will be out in November, but it wouldn't be too surprising to see that date slip.

Also-also, no updates to the PRD in over a year now.

Doug M.


Douglas Muir 406 wrote:
no updates to the PRD in over a year now.

I don't think we'll EVER have a PRD that's not several years out of date... :P Remember they can't 'fix' even known issues until new print runs... Though we may get to the point when we have errata/a new print run before it sees the PRD. :P

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graystone wrote:
I don't think we'll EVER have a PRD that's not several years out of date...

Not anymore, anyway. We used to, for a long time, but those seem to be bygone days.


We are on the outside looking in, you know? I can see it being an easy thing to wonder about because Paizo has such a great product, and we all care about it.

In a way, that we talk about it so much is because we love it so much.

...and that is why I look forward to a 2.0, sometime. That is, because it is a great product and my friends and I enjoy it so much. I would love a spiffy PRD that includes Unchained options as basic. I am sure they will take their time though, and do it right.

Maybe when I get my health back, I will do it, myself. :D

While we are talking about wishes and fishes, I would love a Community Tabletop. A place where players can submit content and ideas and vote and comment on it. I know these exist, but...

Let's say someone really likes the old monk, right? Maybe the number of sessions you GM in PFS provides extra "bonus stars" to any Homebrew ideas you submit to the Tabletop, which would help someone's version of the monk get more notice.

The monk wouldn't be used in PFS (but remember, 2.0 would be a smoothing out and rework, so those archetypes would need updated over time, too!) ...but playing PFS would help your ideas get more notice.

Keep up the game! :D


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graystone wrote:
Douglas Muir 406 wrote:
no updates to the PRD in over a year now.
I don't think we'll EVER have a PRD that's not several years out of date... :P Remember they can't 'fix' even known issues until new print runs... Though we may get to the point when we have errata/a new print run before it sees the PRD. :P

How much of this can be traced to the existence of not one but two third party sites on which basically any bit of rules text can be quickly accessed? Someone else doing your job for you naturally makes it less urgent that you do that job (especially when you have something else to do instead)


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
How much of this can be traced to the existence of not one but two third party sites on which basically any bit of rules text can be quickly accessed? Someone else doing your job for you naturally makes it less urgent that you do that job (especially when you have something else to do instead)

I don't mind them prioritizing resources elsewhere because of that. What bugs me is being an 'absentee landlord' like they are makes the PRD worse than not having it at all and putting up links to those other sites. There are often 2, 3 or even 4 different rules based on which print run and which book you reference and the trend to 'stealth errata' in newer books means that even more info is out of date. Add to that FAQ's that affect the rules but have no indicator in the PRD and have to be searched for separately...

It just... irks me that the worst/least accurate/least up to date source for pathfinder rules is the official pathfinder reference document... :P

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I'm using those sites more because the PRD is so out of date, so....


Dragonborn3 wrote:
I'm using those sites more because the PRD is so out of date, so....

Oh I almost NEVER use it unless it's something from core [for instance, the wording of a skill].

Where I see the PRD it's from posters that don't know how bad it is and come into threads and say 'the PRD says this' only to find out that whatever they posted changed years ago...


Yeah, and the longer they take to update the PRD, the worse the problem is going to become, and the harder it becomes to actually fix it. At this point I don't think we should be expecting that it will ever be fixed.

Doug M.

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