When does a lycanthrope gain the Shapechanger subtype?


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Say someone gets bit, fails their fortitude save, and contracts lycantrhopy. How soon do they gain the allergic reaction to silver, the penalty to CHA and the bonus to WIS, and the Shapechanger subtype? When would a Shapechanger Bane Dagger start doing extra damage? When would a ranger with Favored Enemy: Shapechanger get his bonuses?

Would it be after their first transformation? After the 3 day window for Remove Disease? As soon as they fail their fortitude save

I'm running Broken Moon right now, so it seems likely they may get hit with some of this.


Captain Morgan wrote:

Say someone gets bit, fails their fortitude save, and contracts lycantrhopy. How soon do they gain the allergic reaction to silver, the penalty to CHA and the bonus to WIS, and the Shapechanger subtype? When would a Shapechanger Bane Dagger start doing extra damage? When would a ranger with Favored Enemy: Shapechanger get his bonuses?

Would it be after their first transformation? After the 3 day window for Remove Disease? As soon as they fail their fortitude save

I'm running Broken Moon right now, so it seems likely they may get hit with some of this.

Quote:
A creature that catches lycanthropy becomes an afflicted lycanthrope, but shows no symptoms (and does not gain any of the template's adjustments or abilities) until the night of the next full moon, when the victim involuntarily assumes animal form and forgets his or her own identity. The character remains in animal form until the next dawn and remembers nothing about the entire episode (or subsequent episodes) unless he makes a DC 20 Will save, in which case he becomes aware of his condition.

You don't apply any of the effects of the template until the next full moon.


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Jeraa wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:

Say someone gets bit, fails their fortitude save, and contracts lycantrhopy. How soon do they gain the allergic reaction to silver, the penalty to CHA and the bonus to WIS, and the Shapechanger subtype? When would a Shapechanger Bane Dagger start doing extra damage? When would a ranger with Favored Enemy: Shapechanger get his bonuses?

Would it be after their first transformation? After the 3 day window for Remove Disease? As soon as they fail their fortitude save

I'm running Broken Moon right now, so it seems likely they may get hit with some of this.

Quote:
A creature that catches lycanthropy becomes an afflicted lycanthrope, but shows no symptoms (and does not gain any of the template's adjustments or abilities) until the night of the next full moon, when the victim involuntarily assumes animal form and forgets his or her own identity. The character remains in animal form until the next dawn and remembers nothing about the entire episode (or subsequent episodes) unless he makes a DC 20 Will save, in which case he becomes aware of his condition.
You don't apply any of the effects of the template until the next full moon.

Awesome, thanks! Follow up question. By RAW, is there anyway to accelerate this process?


I was about to say "of course not, that is silly" but it seems there is: Globe of Moonlight would seem effective for this use.

Scarab Sages

What's funny about that is that according to the quoted text, moonlight is irrelevant to the change. It happens on the night of the next full moon even if you're locked in an underground chamber or in an extra dimensional space.

Change shape gives an afflicted lycanthrope a modifier on nights when the full moon is visible, which is probably about all the globe of moonlight would apply to.


Technically they get that bonus on "nights when the full moon is visible" not when they can see the full moon, much less when touched by the light of it. The wording is haphazard, but I think the intent is clear enough. RAW it has no effect upon the example creatures it is said to affect, so search your heart and decide what they mean for it to do.

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