Bulk of loaded ammunition?


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Scarab Sages

Does the weapon have the same bulk fully loaded as it does empty? Or do we add the ammunition to the weapon?

For example, a Flame Rifle has a bulk of 1. It requires Petrol. A standard Petrol Tank has a Bulk of 1. So is loaded Flame Rifle bulk 2?

No angle here, just trying to figure out the bulk of my weapons.


Murdock Mudeater wrote:

Does the weapon have the same bulk fully loaded as it does empty? Or do we add the ammunition to the weapon?

For example, a Flame Rifle has a bulk of 1. It requires Petrol. A standard Petrol Tank has a Bulk of 1. So is loaded Flame Rifle bulk 2?

No angle here, just trying to figure out the bulk of my weapons.

On page 172, it clarifies that the bulk listed in the weapons table is the bulk of the "item", so I think it has to be the bulk of the unloaded gun - count all ammo as additional bulk. Just remember that projectile ammunition will go down in bulk as you fire it, but batteries will not.


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Ammunition (page 168) wrote:
Weapons that use standard ammunition (arrows, charges, darts, mini-rockets, petrol, rounds, scattergun shells, etc.) are sold preloaded.

So the stats shown in the tables are the stats for loaded weapons.


whew wrote:
Ammunition (page 168) wrote:
Weapons that use standard ammunition (arrows, charges, darts, mini-rockets, petrol, rounds, scattergun shells, etc.) are sold preloaded.

So the stats shown in the tables are the stats for loaded weapons.

A does not follow B - just because they come with 1 set of ammo doesn't mean that 1 set is accounted for in the bulk. In fact, it's impossible that the table accounts for ammo bulk, because a Flame Pistol is Bulk L, and its ammo is Bulk 1. If you were right, it would be Bulk 1 in the table.

Scarab Sages

whew wrote:
Ammunition (page 168) wrote:
Weapons that use standard ammunition (arrows, charges, darts, mini-rockets, petrol, rounds, scattergun shells, etc.) are sold preloaded.

So the stats shown in the tables are the stats for loaded weapons.

Not sure if this logic follows, but I did miss that quote and it does explain why some of these weapons are so expensive.

The real question arrises when the weapon has a bulk of L and the ammunition has a bulk of 1...

The Flame Pistol, for example, has a Bulk of L and as far as I can tell, there is no lighter ammunition than the standard Petrol Tank at bulk 1.


Bulk is an abstract concept that covers more than just weight.
so while a loaded flame pistol can be worn at the waist quite comfortably, or held relatively balanced such that the bulk of the fuel is mitigated. Whereas the fuel canister is just awkward with no easy way to grip it or store it.

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