Black Lightning


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What did people think of the first episode? I have zero background with the character, and enjoyed it. It felt a lot more like Luke Cage than the other Arrow-verse shows on CW, but not quite at that level of grittiness. Roughly halfway between Arrow-verse and LC, which I think is a good spot.

Some recent interviews I read made it sound like while there aren't any cross-overs planned for season 1, they could be in the future. There was also the newscast in the show with a commentator that other cities have super heroes which are respected, but when it's a black man, he's labeled as a vigilante. So there's clearly other superheros in-world, but no indication of which Earth it's set on. I think a great crossover would be with Vixen actually, the present day one, not the Legends of Tomorrow historical one.


I liked the first episode, and in particular the fact that it appears it will skew heavily toward street-level crime, rather than the supervillain of the week.

I plan to stick with this a while.


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I liked it...Has a much different "feel" than the other CWverse shows. Will definitely tune in next week.

As far as crossovers go...I am kind of fine with them not making that a big deal. And hopefully if they do have to place it on a Earth, hopefully it's Kara's

Also pretty good logistical reasons for the absent of crossovers. This show is filmed in Atlanta, not Vancouver. Actors can't exactly walk between sets for a crossover :P

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MMCJawa wrote:

I liked it...Has a much different "feel" than the other CWverse shows. Will definitely tune in next week.

As far as crossovers go...I am kind of fine with them not making that a big deal. And hopefully if they do have to place it on a Earth, hopefully it's Kara's

Also pretty good logistical reasons for the absent of crossovers. This show is filmed in Atlanta, not Vancouver. Actors can't exactly walk between sets for a crossover :P

Well, that makes a non-regular like Vixen a great choice if they want to do that.


I liked it for pretty much all the reasons already stated. A likeable MC, the teen drama seemed plausible (unlike most Arrowverse stuff) and good set-up in the first episode. If the show keeps this level of quality, I will be very pleased indeed.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to head off to daydream about Pierce and Cage getting together over beers and lamenting about how useless the whole hero bit is ... before going out to whup some baddies.


I liked it. Loved the music.

Word is there were some reshoots when CW picked the show up. Specifically, more superhero stuff.

BTW, Jefferson's ex is Lynn Stewart. As in John Stewart's sister.


Pleasepleaseplease tell me he'll show up later this season.


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GreenDragon1133 wrote:

I liked it. Loved the music.

Word is there were some reshoots when CW picked the show up. Specifically, more superhero stuff.

BTW, Jefferson's ex is Lynn Stewart. As in John Stewart's sister.

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Pleasepleaseplease tell me he'll show up later this season.

What I hear:

Originally, BL was going to have a universe to himself. This was changed, but he is going to basically have this season to establish himself. Rumor is he will have a meet-up with Supergirl though. Which means he must be on Earth-38 not Earth-1.
And honestly, this seems like it fits better on a world where Superman is weaker, and has fewer super-powered enemies than his cousin.
As opposed to the world where Green Arrow was the "first". Except for Wildcat. And the JSA. And all the others that have been introduced in Arrow, Flash, Vixen, and Legends.

So GL would be S2 at the minimum.


Fun to know, but I'd be happy just seeing John Stewart, Lantern or no.


I'm going to enjoy this one. I don't think we should see a crossover this season for sure. I can't imagine green arrow ordering around (and you know he would) BL.


Also I would love to have John Stewart GL he is definitely my favorite.

I feel he'll have to go into something big budget. I can't imagine him in a television series. to much spent on his special effects.


It's only been one episode, but this is easily now my favorite Berlanti/CW TV show. I don't want it to crossover with Flash, Arrow, or Legends, and I'm kinda hesitant to see it interact with Supergirl either.

It is gritty, but doesn't wallow in it like Arrow and last season's Flash, and that darkness feels like it has real stakes & consequences (unlike Arrow and Flash). It's also fun and makes me root for the good guys, but it isn't stupid fun or stupid stupid like Flash and Legends can too often be. And the cast, especially the family, feels real with real dynamics and tensions... again, unlike all the idiot-ball holding, not communicating, and unnecessary melodrama of the other shows (including Supergirl).

I'm hoping it gets a chance to find it's audience.


I don't even need to see a GL ring, just have John show up would be cool. Maybe a line about how his 'other job' keeps him busy.


They could do GL, if they limit it. Like the Hawk's wings, or Vixen's totems. (Or more likely - like Firestorm.)


GreenDragon1133 wrote:
They could do GL, if they limit it. Like the Hawk's wings, or Vixen's totems. (Or more likely - like Firestorm.)

That would be such a unsatisfying way of doing it.


Like the unsatisfying Firestorm we got for the last 4 years? Or the unsatisfying Iron Man - err, Atom - we got for the first couple?


I am so happy with this show, you don't even know.

For the first time in a LONG time, the sibling dynamic of the "kids" in the show doesn't feel forced, and has real, believable weight to it. As does the Father/Child dynamic.

The tension between Pierce and LaLa was palpable and urgent, but not over the top like we've gotten in other shows.

A+ will watch again.


Yes just like that. I'm still bitter about fire storm.

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I thought it was terrific. Nice milieu, I was highly amused that he had his own Shaft-like theme song, and even the costume was pretty solid.


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Jason Nelson wrote:
I thought it was terrific. Nice milieu, I was highly amused that he had his own Shaft-like theme song, and even the costume was pretty solid.

The costume was dynamite.


Given how much the show seems like it is about to devolve into Blaxploitation, shouldn't that be "Dy-no-MITE!"?


No comment.


Black lightning was always a blacksploitation character, if a quiet one- at least until the 90s. Cage was far louder one.


Super friends was ridiculous with that stuff thinking back.


Second episode was also damn good. I'm actually hopeful that it will stay this good throughout.


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Just watched the first two episode and found them much better than I expected. I'm a white European, and as such not really familiar with real black lives in the US, but I got the kind of authentic feeling from the show I last had with The Wire.


Liked it.

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Episode 2 definitely upped the ante, and it also cleared the decks of some of the 1st level bosses. Interesting to see that they aren't lingering at that beginner level much but are dialing it up right away.


I don't remember his powers being "an addiction" before, is that something new for the TV show?

I am looking forward to seeing how his daughters deal with their own emerging powers and how long they are going to dance around each other trying to keep respective secret IDs.


I think she is just saying that as a means to talk him out of it. However really I feel like it would be incredibly difficult to have any super power and be expected to quit using it which would probably be like an addiction.

Is his daughter new for the series or does BL have a daughter in the comics?


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So Grace Choi showed up, and name dropped the daughter of Zor-El. Earth-38 confirmed.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:

I think she is just saying that as a means to talk him out of it. However really I feel like it would be incredibly difficult to have any super power and be expected to quit using it which would probably be like an addiction.

Is his daughter new for the series or does BL have a daughter in the comics?

Thunder and Lightning, they were a part of the comics before the 52 happened. Thunder is a density increaser, she was on the outsiders, and Lightning is electrical manipulator/energy form (she was in JSA)


Oh ok I think I have hero clix of them. cool.

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About the confrontation on the march:

Spoiler:
So I only saw one gunshot, and at relatively close range with a scope how did Girl with Eyes that See Death miss "that electrified fool"?

Also, was it a single bullet that went right through the pastor and hit Khalil?

Or did I miss something there and it was a spray of bullets and BL didn't get hit because of his super-ness?

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Jason Nelson wrote:

About the confrontation on the march:

** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
I assumed she missed BL on purpose, despite the order to take him out. I thought it was a sign she might have her own agenda which differs from Tobias. I'm currently going with she wants to see him fail/get taken down by BL so that she can step in can get a promotion and take his place.

I also assumed that the bullet wen through the pastor to hid Khalil, but it wasn't super clear. When he first collapsed I thought it was the shock of seeing the pastor shot.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:
So Grace Choi showed up, and name dropped the daughter of Zor-El. Earth-38 confirmed.

Is it, though? I may have missed it, but I thought Supergirl was just referenced as a superhero suitable for cosplay -- a suggestion made by a reader of comic books.


Yes. But No one on Earth-1 refers to any member of the trinity (outside of a few vague references, like the Waverider dropping Helen on Themiscira). So a non-meta (assuming that this version of Grace isn't a lost Bana Mighdall Amazon) wouldn't likely know the name.
Further proof on that, if there were comic books about her, Cisco would have mentioned it.

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I like this show

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I didn't take Grace's name dropping of Supergirl as definitive proof of the world being Earth-38 either, given the comic book context--but it does leave it open for possibility down the line. I am curious about what the nature of Grace will be (outside of being Anissa's love interest).

Really liking this show.


*is betting this is Earth-23*


Thomas Seitz wrote:
*is betting this is Earth-23*

Batman: The Brave and the Bold?


Green,

No. The home of African American versions of most of the JLA and the rest of the DC universe.

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I don't know about that.

The characters are as they are in the mainstream DCU and setting them there would be pretty tone-deaf and outright bad PR.

Here you go minority viewers, you get a show, but it's set on the "ethnic Earth"


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Hmm Obviously that can't be it. If African Americans were in societal majority they would presumably not have to deal with racist cops and being treated sub-standard. It would be like if they made a (God help me) White lighting and put him in earth-23 trying to overcome racism from the black majority but then instead put him in our world pretending that he was still being oppressed.


Thomas Seitz wrote:

Green,

No. The home of African American versions of most of the JLA and the rest of the DC universe.

After Flashpoint. ;)


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Also if it was that universe why name himself Black lighting? I doubt that superman is going around by black superman.

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The first episode also had a guy on TV saying the other superheroes were looked on as heroes but Black Lightning was treated as a criminal because he was black. So pretty sure it's not an Earth where all supers are black.


Okay well. So much for that idea...


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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:

I don't know about that.

The characters are as they are in the mainstream DCU and setting them there would be pretty tone-deaf and outright bad PR.

Here you go minority viewers, you get a show, but it's set on the "ethnic Earth"

I liked milestone when it first came out. But it has not aged well.

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