All-Consuming Swing question


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I have a question about the following feats and how they interact:

Vital Strike (Improved, Greater): Standard action, one attack highest bonus, double (triple, quadruple) weapon dice.

Blooded Arcane Strike: During bloodrage, arcane strike is always on, and arcane strike damage bonus is doubled (tripled, quadrupled) if you use Vital Strike (Improved, Greater)

All-Consuming Swing: When you use Cleave or Great Cleave, you may add the damage you would gain from Vital Strike (Improved, Greater) to the damage dealt to your initial target. You receive that bonus damage as well. This damage ignores DR.

If I use All-Consuming Swing, do I use Vital Strike (and can I multiply Arcane Strike damage), or do I just add the bonus damage (and the Arcane Strike damage is not multiplied). Or am I overthinking it?

RAW would indicate the latter, but RAI might be otherwise?


It would seem your not actually using Vital Strike, so I would say that the Blooded feat does not apply (aside from the always on part).


I agree, you are adding the damage from the vital strike feat aka the weapon damage again. Not actually using or making a vital strike. Nor adding the damage you would gain if you were to use or to make a vital strike.

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