Why does Zon-Kuthon not have the torture subdomain?

[Yqatuba]

If anyone should have it I would think it would be him

[I'm Hiding In Your Closet]

You couldn't be more right in thinking so, either! I can only figure that somebody, somewhere made an oversight or a misprint.

[14 sided die]

Omitted to grant glorious suffering to his followers

[Rysky]

Not an oversight, the Torture Subdomain was created waaaaaaaay after Pathfinder was originally made (and thus after Zon-Kuthon had already been introduced).

[Blindmage]

Torture is crass and, while it's an art form in and of itself, it's an interrogation tactic. Zon-Kushan and his worshippers see pain and suffering as a tool of enlightenment, in some cases, the practices are sacred holy rites, as opposed to simple masochictic daliances. Seeking truth and knowledge through exposing yourself, being vulnerable on a level most can't manage, from physical pain, to emotional pain, all forms bring insight into the truth of things.

[MageHunter]

The iconic evil inquisitor believed only the holy deserved physical pain and salvation. She preferred to use psychological torture on her victims. This is actually showed as they were a group of children training to be Inquisitors and they were willingly tortured.

But I'm sure if the team had made the torture subdomain before Zon Kuthon existed, he would have it.

[Unbegreiflich]

I'm sure he's beating himself senseless over it... 8^0

[Cavall]

Rysky wrote:

Not an oversight, the Torture Subdomain was created waaaaaaaay after Pathfinder was originally made (and thus after Zon-Kuthon had already been introduced).

So? Subdomains list associated gods that should have it.

Associated Deities: Venkelvore, Xsistaid, Yamasoth, Zaebos, Zaigasnar, Zepar

That's for torture.

Champions of corruption isn't so old that it predates some of the gods listed for it's Hatred subdomain. (Same domain of destruction)

Associated Deities: Dahak, Fumeiyoshi, Gyronna,Lady Nanbyo, Rovagug

Clearly an oversight. Not something that they purposefully left out because the God was already listed.

[Rysky]

He was already listed and had his Subdomains before it came out.

As for the “Associated Deities” part, Inner Sea Gods (where the Torture Subdomain is from) doesn’t have Associated Deities, it has Associated Domains.

[Dragonborn3]

Deities are restricted to only a certain number of domains and subdominans too, so he likely won't get it without losing something.

[Rysky]

Yep, which would retconning not only himself but all of his followers who were using the replaced Subdomain as well.

[Xenocrat]

Dragonborn3 wrote:

Deities are restricted to only a certain number of domains and subdominans too, so he likely won't get it without losing something.

That’s only true for initial write ups. Splat books (like Blood of Darkness or whatever it was called and one of the Intrigue supplements) have introduced new subdomains and pushed gods like Nocticula, Norgorber, and Calistria over those maximums.