[Answered] Healing Flames and Solar Bloodline


Rules Questions


Edit: Answer received. The result is a fairly clear 'No, these two mechanics do not interact in regard to the Fire-based healing. Yes, they do interact on the Fire-based damage dealing.' on multiple grounds.

The post below has already been answered and is only retained in case others are curious.

I suspect this is a case where RAW never foresaw this possibility and so the RAW answer is 'No', but I want to ask anyway about how Healing Flames spell and Solar Bloodline arcana interact. Note that Healing Flames not being a Sorc spell is not a problem; Magaambyan Arcana trait can solve that.

Solar Sorcerer Bloodline Arcana:Whenever you cast a spell with the fire descriptor, if it deals damage, it deals +1 point of damage per die rolled.

Healing Flames: You unleash a blast of holy flames that washes over all creatures in the area in a glorious display of divine power. This deals damage to evil creatures and heals good creatures in the area. The amount of damage dealt and the number of hit points restored in each case is 1d8 points per 2 caster levels (maximum 5d8).

My question: Does the bloodline ability increase the health restored? My guess is by RAW, 'No, as restoring hit points is not the exact same as dealing damage even though they use similar behavior modifying the same game mechanic.'

RAI suggests to me this should count for the healing aspect of the spell too, but I don't imagine RAI gets very far at a PFS table?


I would say no, and I would also say it's not even RAI.

Solar Bloodline increases damage, not healing. Just because a spell deals damage and heals at the same time doesn't change anything.


The RAI seems pretty clear - if the spell is fire based, and does damage, it does extra damage. The bloodline itself offers fire-based healing abilities, so if the writer of the ability had intended for the ability to improve fire-based healing, it would probably have said so. Instead, it uses the word 'damage' twice to specify that the ability only applies when damage is being dealt.


Yeah, fair enough. Okay, I think that answers the question. Thank you! I'm going to edit my first post to reflect that this has been handled.


When adding Effects together, you should look at what it is, not what it it is described to look like.

Solar Sorcerer Bloodline Arcana adds to Fire Effects.
Healing Flames is a Positive (Holy) Effect.


I can't even find this ability listed in the solar bloodline?

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / [Answered] Healing Flames and Solar Bloodline All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.