What’s the longest you can make the spell “Vile Dog Transformation” last?


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Within reason of course, as you could theoretically be some ridiculously high epic level to make the caster level really high, but I want something that can happen within reason. Mythic is okay though, though not prefered. Right now I got Spell Perfection, Extend Spell, Tenebrous Spell, and Spell Specialization, but I’m wondering if there are more ways to increase the time.

Totally not trying to become a crazy wizard who breeds two dogs under this spell while having a really long time for the spell to stay in effect for the whole pregnancy, just so I can create a true breed of this offshoot of the Hell Hound. Yup, totally not the crazy wizard detailed in all the monster descriptions.


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I see nothing wrong with this.

I know a guy.


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Play as a Deathstar coven hex-using witch? Then Extend Spell for a few million hours? That should work.


Dαedαlus wrote:
Play as a Deathstar coven hex-using witch? Then Extend Spell for a few million hours? That should work.

Or you could just go to a timeless demiplane and have it last indefinitely.

Or is that cheating?

Edit: Also, a few million? Given sufficient resources, an efficiently packed coven Death Star should put your caster level in the trillions, easy.


An arcanist with spell tinkering can extend the remaining duration on a spell by 50%. The arcanist can be the original caster but doesn't have to be.

Though this sounds like a perfect case for creating and using an occult ritual.


avr wrote:

An arcanist with spell tinkering can extend the remaining duration on a spell by 50%. The arcanist can be the original caster but doesn't have to be.

Though this sounds like a perfect case for creating and using an occult ritual.

Indeed. The spell struck me as something you wanted as a permanent occult ritual instead in the first place.


Avoron wrote:
Dαedαlus wrote:
Play as a Deathstar coven hex-using witch? Then Extend Spell for a few million hours? That should work.

Or you could just go to a timeless demiplane and have it last indefinitely.

Or is that cheating?

Edit: Also, a few million? Given sufficient resources, an efficiently packed coven Death Star should put your caster level in the trillions, easy.

Whelp, this thread is over. Pack it in everyone, can’t get any better answer than a catch all every spell is permanent in a timeless demiplane answer.

PS: Couldn’t you make portals to your demiplane tied to, say, your 20 or so bags of holding, thus allowing you to have a Death Star caster level in far above the trillions mark, by technically being adjacent to all the portals and the reduce person halfling “swarms” in each plane?


Wouldnt pregnancy not progress in a timeless demiplane? Hmmm


Snakers wrote:
Wouldnt pregnancy not progress in a timeless demiplane? Hmmm

As long as you only make it where only magic is the timeless part, since it says in the timeless plane rules that timeless planes aren’t all the same in how they are timeless, that wouldn’t matter, as aging could still be a thing.


But remember this:

Timeless wrote:
The danger of a timeless plane is that once an individual leaves such a plane for one where time flows normally, conditions such as hunger and aging occur retroactively.

So if the demiplane does keep the pregnancy in stasis, the entire process would occur instantaneously as soon as the individual in question left the plane, which I imagine would be very much not fun.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
PS: Couldn’t you make portals to your demiplane tied to, say, your 20 or so bags of holding, thus allowing you to have a Death Star caster level in far above the trillions mark, by technically being adjacent to all the portals and the reduce person halfling “swarms” in each plane?

Hypothetically, yes, you could. If your imaginary GM rules that the coven and scar hexes work normally through portals, the we could distribute the coven swarm through as many portals as we want. Oh, and reduced halflings are so passé - all the cool kids are using swarms of young awakened hedgehogs. 2500% more efficient for packing and infinitely cuter.

If we assume that each hedgehog takes up a 1.25 cubic foot box (consistent with 100 to a standard cube), and we make one side of that box a portal leading inward in a chain toward the caster, and the other five portals leading out... then we could have a chain of portals stretching 4224 levels outward. This gives us a total coven size of approximately 5^4224, or 10^2952, or something in the vicinity of this number:

Number of Hedgehogs:
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Which is also, incidentally, several thousand orders of magnitude above the number of particles in the observable universe

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