This has been bugging me all day ever since I discovered certain dragon artifacts made from parts of dragons. Say I find a dead giant, take a bone from it and craft it into a bone longsword, and then take a finger off the giant and cast resurrection on the finger. What happens to the longsword and the rest of the body?
Nothing. Why would it?
And no, if you then cast resurrection on another piece of the giant you don't get two of him, he only has one soul. And if you kill the new giant you need a piece from his latest body to bring him back again, because the spell says so.
The longsword shouldn't go away for any reason, and the giant can certainly choose not to be revived, especially if you were the one who slew him.
If he was made undead, you wouldn't necessarily be able to revive other missing parts of him unless you destroyed the undead creature his soul is bound to.
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The idea is more-or-less behind the Resurrection spell, which, when cast on an Undead creature, reverts them to a living version of their original selves (I forget if a save is involved or not, though with the spell component and the casting time, I doubt this is a valid in-combat option).
In normal circumstances, resurrection tells the deceased who is reviving them, as well as some basic information about said resurrector. Using Resurrection as a means of "purifying" undead circumvents this, meaning that being undead has at least some sort of hold over a given entity's soul.
Okay. I'll buy this. Now I just need to know what happens if I enchant dragonhide with magic and then cast resurrection on it.
If you do it within the allowed time period it becomes the dragon that was killed. Nothing in the rules says being enchanted stops the spell from working. Is there a reason for these specific questions?
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If you do it within the allowed time period it becomes the dragon that was killed. Nothing in the rules says being enchanted stops the spell from working. Is there a reason for these specific questions?
Okay. I'll buy this. Now I just need to know what happens if I enchant dragonhide with magic and then cast resurrection on it.
I may be wrong, but it sounds like an attempt to resurrect a dragon with energy resistance to a type of energy to which it's normally vulnerable. Like a white dragon with fire resistance. I can't think of any other reason this question would be asked. EDIT: Rereading the quoted question, it sounds like an attempt to resurrect a creature with magic weapon and/or armor special abilities that a creature would never actually be able to have.
For the record, I don't see anything in the description for resurrection that indicates the raised creature would retain the use of any spells, powers, abilities, or the benefits thereof, used on the body part that's part of the spell to bring the creature back.
It isn't fully stated out, but the theme from resurection and raise dead seems to be that a corpse is a very specific thing and interacts with the soul in strange ways as far as necromancy, particularly in creating undead.
Physical remains that were a 'corpse' are only a 'corpse' as long as they are the latest physical body that a soul inhabited, and as long as that is true, the soul and the corpse are connected and some effects that happen to one can effect the other. Without this connection, physical remains are not a 'corpse' as far as creating undead is concerned. Similarly, creating an undead ties the soul to that particular corpse, preventing it from inhabiting a different physical body.
As I said, this isn't really spelled out, or something that I would call 'rules' but it does seem to be the general theme of how things work based on the information we have.
It isn't fully stated out, but the theme from resurection and raise dead seems to be that a corpse is a very specific thing and interacts with the soul in strange ways as far as necromancy, particularly in creating undead.
Physical remains that were a 'corpse' are only a 'corpse' as long as they are the latest physical body that a soul inhabited, and as long as that is true, the soul and the corpse are connected and some effects that happen to one can effect the other. Without this connection, physical remains are not a 'corpse' as far as creating undead is concerned. Similarly, creating an undead ties the soul to that particular corpse, preventing it from inhabiting a different physical body.
As I said, this isn't really spelled out, or something that I would call 'rules' but it does seem to be the general theme of how things work based on the information we have.
Agreed on all counts.
Yeah. As darth_gator said, I'm trying to see if the enchantment stays on the body part, mainly because even as a gm, I like to follow the rules as closely as possible.
Is there a reason for these specific questions?
Creatures are not objects and once its alive again it is no longer armor, and you can't enchant creatures as armor, just like if you kill the dragon, and it had some permanent spell cast it, then spell won't carry over the armor that is made from it.