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If owlbears are OGL, what should Yoon's stuffed animal be?


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Grizzlyhoot.


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Dubious Scholar wrote:
Grizzlyhoot.

"Gom-Gom the Grizzlyhoot" alliterates to boot.


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They're not being retconned out of existence. It's just that they won't happen to show up in any further works.

That said, it's true that it would be a bit odd for an iconic piece of an iconic's kit to be something that we were trying to not talk about.

I do have to think, though... if Yoon loves Gom-gom enough to hang onto him even well into her early adult punk phase... what are the chances he winds up as a poppet at some point? Because that would be adorable.

Like, seriously. I want to read the story where some group of enemies or other has finally managed to capture and/or incapacitate Yoon (almost certainly at dire cost to themselves) and her little Gom-gom wants to help her so bad... and then suddenly they can.


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A hootbear? Strixbruin?


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Sanityfaerie wrote:

They're not being retconned out of existence. It's just that they won't happen to show up in any further works.

That said, it's true that it would be a bit odd for an iconic piece of an iconic's kit to be something that we were trying to not talk about.

I do have to think, though... if Yoon loves Gom-gom enough to hang onto him even well into her early adult punk phase... what are the chances he winds up as a poppet at some point? Because that would be adorable.

Like, seriously. I want to read the story where some group of enemies or other has finally managed to capture and/or incapacitate Yoon (almost certainly at dire cost to themselves) and her little Gom-gom wants to help her so bad... and then suddenly they can.

Oh my goodness... Gom-Gom poppet. I consider this thread a success just for that.


Urstrix?

Not like good old Ursidae Ursus Arctos - The bearlike bear bear. This is only a little bit bear.


They should call them the legally distinct "Bearowls"


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I honestly worry if I am a rational human being, because I am very close to declaring the existence of owlbears in Pathfinder to be a make or break for me.


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Charlie Brooks wrote:
I honestly worry if I am a rational human being, because I am very close to declaring the existence of owlbears in Pathfinder to be a make or break for me.

Okay, so... hear me out here.

The core books are getting remastered, but the subsequent books aren't.

Dark Archives mentions owlbears.

Ergo, owlbears are now cryptids.


Actually I thought it was mentioned in one of the streams that things that don't make it into the new books will likely get a legacy tag. So you still have your owlbears, chromatic dragons, metallic dragons, etc. But they'll probably be part of a legacy ruleset on AoN.


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Yeah, all the old content will still work. You can utilize it as you see fit.


Is Ursotus ok?

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QuidEst wrote:
Charlie Brooks wrote:
I honestly worry if I am a rational human being, because I am very close to declaring the existence of owlbears in Pathfinder to be a make or break for me.

Okay, so... hear me out here.

The core books are getting remastered, but the subsequent books aren't.

Dark Archives mentions owlbears.

Ergo, owlbears are now cryptids.

Oh, perfect.

But in all seriousness, I'm concerned. I'll have my old bestiaries for any monsters that get left out. And since making monsters is so easy, I've already got beholders, mind flayers, and other D&D-isms in my games.


Charlie Brooks wrote:
But in all seriousness, I'm concerned. I'll have my old bestiaries for any monsters that get left out. And since making monsters is so easy, I've already got beholders, mind flayers, and other D&D-isms in my games.

Ooooo. Any chance you have those in a sharable space? And...perchance do you have gemstone dragons? The OG Amethyst and its gem bomb breath was always a favorite of mine. I was hoping it might make into a (notional) Bestiary 4 or one of Battlezoo's Bestiaries but this move away from OGL content probably squashes that hope.


Charlie Brooks wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
Charlie Brooks wrote:
I honestly worry if I am a rational human being, because I am very close to declaring the existence of owlbears in Pathfinder to be a make or break for me.

Okay, so... hear me out here.

The core books are getting remastered, but the subsequent books aren't.

Dark Archives mentions owlbears.

Ergo, owlbears are now cryptids.

Oh, perfect.

But in all seriousness, I'm concerned. I'll have my old bestiaries for any monsters that get left out. And since making monsters is so easy, I've already got beholders, mind flayers, and other D&D-isms in my games.

Hey, we're all a little irrational about some things.


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Charlie Brooks wrote:
I honestly worry if I am a rational human being, because I am very close to declaring the existence of owlbears in Pathfinder to be a make or break for me.

None of us are entirely rational.

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graystone wrote:
A hootbear? Strixbruin?

I've been calling them Hootiebears (with my Appalachian twang turned up to 11) since the OGL kerfluffel started.


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Just call them birdbears.

Then the judge can vary them.. hawk bears have sharper beaks, vulture bears have sharper claws... and pelican bears can swallow medium creatures!


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Sir Belmont the Valiant wrote:

Just call them birdbears.

Then the judge can vary them.. hawk bears have sharper beaks, vulture bears have sharper claws... and pelican bears can swallow medium creatures!

I love this because I've been stating out a parrotbear, (they have spellcasting)


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Urstrix?


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Growlbears :d


Furry-hooters or the less fun Tytoursas.

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Sigh...my "I'm concerned" above should have been, "I'm not concerned."

Jacob Jett wrote:


Ooooo. Any chance you have those in a sharable space? And...perchance do you have gemstone dragons? The OG Amethyst and its gem bomb breath was always a favorite of mine. I was hoping it might make into a (notional) Bestiary 4 or one of Battlezoo's Bestiaries but this move away from OGL content probably squashes that hope.

I never did the gemstone dragons. I don't know what sharing policies are with this stuff, but I can send the stat blocks I made via private message. It's just using the monster design rules, because making creatures in this edition is a joy.


Charlie Brooks wrote:
Sigh...my "I'm concerned" above should have been, "I'm not concerned."

Ah, makes sense! Considering how I've had my own moments where something to do with a game has had an outsized emotional impact, I didn't want to be dismissive.

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Captain Morgan wrote:
Yeah, all the old content will still work. You can utilize it as you see fit.

Indeed, but I think Paizo will not use it ever again in their products.

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