Whoa...Disney in negotations to buy Fox Studios


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Welp, rumor is floating in that the deal is signed.

Disney now owns a much larger slice of the entertainment world


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We cut cable here at the house in July -- all we were watching was reruns of procedurals and one of the people here had a horrid, disturbing addiction to Hallmark holiday movies.

...they've gotten over that, but the point is that we don't watch much TV anymore, and we've gotten a little bit more productive. (Can't get rid of the Internet, though...)


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Grey,

I won't believe it until I see it signed and the ink dried.

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Hopefully optimistic. Hope it doesn't play havoc with MCU. Just Add F4 and that's it.
X-men can stay away as far as I care.


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Hama,

I just want Kang and Galactus. I don't think that's too much to ask...


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Hama,

I just want Kang and Galactus. I don't think that's too much to ask...

And Dr. Doom. I'd love to see a proper version of Doom on the big screen.


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DOOM!

...that is all.


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Sometimes I think the best way to reboot Fantastic Four would be to start with a Dr. Doom origin movie. Ending with Doom watching news footage of Reed's experimental rocket launching into space.


Grey,

That at least is different from most other movies.

Doom is good choice but I still love Galactus and Kang.

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I really don’t want a Doom origin movie.

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Can not wait for the Fantastic Four to come back home!!!
The fact that Doom and Galactus comes along with them is even better!

Phase Four and the Fantastic Four - it’s fantastic!


Marc,

Don't forget Kang and Annihilus!!


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MMCJawa wrote:

Negotiations back on between Fox and Disney

I know there is concern over monopolies, which I do share, but ya know...if the options are Comcast (a company I loath with the fire of a thousand suns) or Sony (who screwed up Spiderman so bad Disney had to come over and reboot the character), I'll take Disney.

Kind of wonder if that earlier leak was intentional, to get Disney more interested by seeing fanboy reactions.

Why just fanboy? The excitement I've seen has been pretty evenly split.

Anyways, deeply disturbed by how thoroughly Disney has been consolidating control over the entertainment sector, but at least we might get more of Jobs Wobble's weird Sci-Fi Confederacy fanfic. The second season sounds so promising, after all (Reaver-related trigger warnings beyond).

Yeah, I'm starting to lean towards Freehold on the whole Whedon issue, in case you can't tell.


KC,

I'm only leaning on the idea that if I can find 50 billion dollars, I can cleave away some of Disney's strangle hold...

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[sarcasm]Because Disney has ben SO SO BAD for entertainment and hadn't treated the IPs they got with respect at all [/sarcasm]


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Hama,

Eh. Some people just don't like monopolies. I'm one of them. Then again I hated the board game.


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The board game kicks ass, but you know, its not reality.

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I don't care as long as it works.


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Eh, I like games where there's cool things you can do. Plenty of things do that better than monopoly. Pathfinder, for example.


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Orville Redenbacher wrote:
The board game kicks ass, but you know, its not reality.

theoretically

Hama wrote:

[sarcasm]Because Disney has ben SO SO BAD for entertainment and hadn't treated the IPs they got with respect at all [/sarcasm]

We aren't allowed to discuss politics anymore because [error] but I don't think it's too controversial to point out that things matter in this world beyond "respecting the IPs". Disney is a media-manipulating would-be feudal lord and as nice as it might be to be able to get our upper-mediocre live-action remake of The Iron Giant where the giant is CGI but we're still asked to call it live-action that the critics say is good and everyone else says "eh I guess okay sure" it is utterly irresponsible and short-sighted to fixate solely on the positive angles of an ever-expanding artistic takeover.

You guys can have fun and talk about the cool stuff and I don't resent you it at all (though personally as a big Disney fan I am increasingly disillusioned with their "play-it-safe-and-aim-for-B+" approach to making movies) but don't act like this is overall a good thing. Overall it's a very, very bad thing.


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KC,

I didn't think entertainment fell under politics unless it's a political statement. But I do agree with your sentiment.

Orville,

No, actually the board game doesn't since it always ended with at least one of us Seitz boys (either myself or one of my brothers) doing a board game flip and going off to pout. Last time was 2001.


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The Sideromancer wrote:
Eh, I like games where there's cool things you can do. Plenty of things do that better than monopoly. Pathfinder, for example.

Heh. When my son was very young, his favorite game was Monopoly. He got his mother or me to play it with him practically every day for many months.

When he was 6 years old, I got him started playing Pathfinder. The campaign setting fascinated him, and he asked me many questions about the local geography as he browsed the book and map. (At that time, I ran a campaign for him based in Nex, with excursions into the Mwangi Expanse and Katapesh. One of his first two PCs had come from Geb. It would be years before we got around to Varisia.)

But he still had a love for Monopoly, and he often started creating his own game or version of another game. So one day, he started working on Golarion Monopoly. He asked me questions as he tried to decide on which Golarion kingdoms to use for which properties. I think he decided on about half of them before he quit. (He started many projects in those days, without finishing them.)


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Given the asking price, some sort of giant corporation would have winded up with Fox Pictures. If I have to choose a giant corporation, I would much rather have Disney involved then either Comcast or Sony.


Who would you guys choose to play doom?

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Someone physically imposing and then dub over his voice by someone with a deep, soothing voice brimming with power. Unfortunately all the actors I would use for that are dead now.


Heh so Darth Vader him then?


Vidmaster7 wrote:
Heh so Darth Vader him then?

Well, Vader was kinda based on Doom to begin with, so makes sense.


I dunno about soothing voice. He was scarred by an explosion. I would expect a harsh, somewhat angry voice, with slight cracks.


He always exaggerates so much about how much his face was damaged by that explosion. putting the red hot steel mask on his face instead of letting it cool did WAY more damage.

But yeah he should probably sound pretty harsh and angry.


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I find it strange that people find Doom impressive. He is the epitome of undeserved imperiousness. He fails at all his plans, despite massive resources and high technology. The only ones he manages to terrorize are the poor farmers in Latveria. In other words, a miserably failed bully who talks about himself in third person.

Not to mention that if he were to run his country as a modern one, it would be the most prosperous one in all of Eastern Europe.


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Ah but your forgetting his great achievements. hes defeated in no particular order beyonders (yes multiple at once), celestials, thanos, Gods, and demons. he has also saved the universe multiple times (granted then conquered it but it would be gone completely with out him.) hes done all that while being just a man. (well at first just a man.)

Plus he is a very complicated character a villain but also a hero in his own way. Apparently the latverians love him (or are to afraid to say otherwise.)


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So running a country SHOULD be a piece of cake for him. He doesn't have much in the way of excuses.


MMCJawa wrote:
Given the asking price, some sort of giant corporation would have winded up with Fox Pictures. If I have to choose a giant corporation, I would much rather have Disney involved then either Comcast or Sony.

Yeah and it's kinda scary that we keep having to make those kinds of choices. "Well, yeah, it's just as evil as the others, but at least it's got better films."

Anyways, I'll quit being a downer. Just wanted to make my concerns heard, and they've been heard.


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he does provide universal education. apparently every latverian must be able to create a doombot to graduate. It also has very low industrial pollution. Also you wouldn't want to mess with its army.


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Oh and doom has that law that young children must be in bed at a reasonable time. Doom demands children get proper amounts of sleep!


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Yay doombots.

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As far as I know Disney bought Fox.


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Sissyl wrote:

I find it strange that people find Doom impressive. He is the epitome of undeserved imperiousness. He fails at all his plans, despite massive resources and high technology. The only ones he manages to terrorize are the poor farmers in Latveria. In other words, a miserably failed bully who talks about himself in third person.

Not to mention that if he were to run his country as a modern one, it would be the most prosperous one in all of Eastern Europe.

I mean...in general "failed bully" can be used, or some variation of that, to describe all comic villains. Generally speaking, those villains either have to regularly fail against their antagonists, or could use there abilities a bit more efficiently without the bloodshed and tyranny to accomplish their gains.

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Hama wrote:
As far as I know Disney bought Fox.

Well, Disney was never going to buy Fox. They are in final negotiations to buy many, if not all, of Fox’s movie and TV properties. There’s a difference.

Fox will continue to be a separate company, owning things like Fox News etc

You are correct though that most insiders say the deal is all but final and could be officially announced any day

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MMCJawa wrote:
I mean...in general "failed bully" can be used, or some variation of that, to describe all comic villains. Generally speaking, those villains either have to regularly fail against their antagonists, or could use there abilities a bit more efficiently without the bloodshed and tyranny to accomplish their gains.

Yeah, villains gotta lose. Darkseid never gets to use the Anti-Life Equation to take over Earth. Thanos gets infinite power from the Infinity Stones, and then fails, again. Everybody fails in the end, Kang, Mordru, Apocalypse, Starro the Conqueror...

It's particularly galling when dealing with characters that, off-screen, have histories of winning. Galactus has eaten thousands of planets. Except Earth. He's been kicked off Earth multiple times, napkin around his neck, fork in hand. Trigon has supposedly conquered countless *universes,* and yet, again, some teenaged Earth super-heroes are too much for him to handle.

They show up all memetic badass, and then fail to deliver.

Dr. Doom at least still owns his own country (last I heard, anyway), which is more than Dormammu can claim, having been kicked off the throne by his sister Umar, and then his niece Clea, or Annihilus, who was the big dog (er, big bug?) in the Negative Zone, until Blastaar overthrew his buggy butt.


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Set wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
I mean...in general "failed bully" can be used, or some variation of that, to describe all comic villains. Generally speaking, those villains either have to regularly fail against their antagonists, or could use there abilities a bit more efficiently without the bloodshed and tyranny to accomplish their gains.

Yeah, villains gotta lose. Darkseid never gets to use the Anti-Life Equation to take over Earth. Thanos gets infinite power from the Infinity Stones, and then fails, again. Everybody fails in the end, Kang, Mordru, Apocalypse, Starro the Conqueror...

It's particularly galling when dealing with characters that, off-screen, have histories of winning. Galactus has eaten thousands of planets. Except Earth. He's been kicked off Earth multiple times, napkin around his neck, fork in hand. Trigon has supposedly conquered countless *universes,* and yet, again, some teenaged Earth super-heroes are too much for him to handle.

They show up all memetic badass, and then fail to deliver.

Dr. Doom at least still owns his own country (last I heard, anyway), which is more than Dormammu can claim, having been kicked off the throne by his sister Umar, and then his niece Clea, or Annihilus, who was the big dog (er, big bug?) in the Negative Zone, until Blastaar overthrew his buggy butt.

OTOH, it wouldn't really have worked to well if Galactus had shown up back in 1966 and eaten the Earth, incidentally killing all the Marvel characters ...


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ok so here's some silly fun.

Disney owns Fox, what characters can be added to the Disney Princess line?

Buffy?
Riply and Newt?
Negasonic Teenage Warhead?
Deadpool?

Deadpool is a Disney Princess now.
Seriously that is probably one of his dreams come true


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and if this merger happens you know Deadpool is going to reference it, and I kind of do expect a Deadpool Disney princess joke

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Point of clarification, there’s no merger on the table.
Fox is looking to sell of most of thier movie and TV properties and Disney is most likely going to buy them.

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Greylurker wrote:
Disney owns Fox, what characters can be added to the Disney Princess line?

In serious answer: probably none.

While the core three "rules" for becoming a Princess are likely suitably reachable for many of the properties they've acquired*, the hidden "fourth rule" is one that none of them have: make a suitable profit (but not TOO MUCH of a profit as to outshine all the others; this one is why Anna and Elsa are not Disney Princesses but rather have their own separate line).

Since none of Fox's potential Princess candidates have made DISNEY any money (yet) with their films, none of them are candidates.

That of course may change in the future if/when Disney does use them in animated films of their own... but at that point, it's basically more like a Disney version of the character rather than the character form the original Fox-owned film.

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1. be born royal, marry royal, or perform a feat of exceptional heroism [that last one was specifically added so Mulan could qualify]

2. be human or mostly-human [looking at you Ariel as the one exception]; [this and rule 3 are why Lion King, despite its financial success, has no representative in the Princess Lineup]

3. be the female central protagonist of an animated Disney film [this rule has to be brought up as it's the thing that disqualifies Giselle from Enchanted - you can't have a real, live actor who has portrayed you on-screen, as that makes all the actresses in the Theme Parks "not really {insert character here} because {character} is played by {actress}." Yes this is really how Disney ruled this.]


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You've forgotten Kairi, one of the ones to be higher in status than most Disney Princesses.

Oh right, movies.


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Anastasia is a Disney Princess.

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Greylurker wrote:

ok so here's some silly fun.

Deadpool is a Disney Princess now.
Seriously that is probably one of his dreams come true

Now he must decide about his sidekick

- a Wolverine (Kick with a capital 'K')
- a tiny Deadpool 'Chimichanga mascot edition'
- a plush unicorn


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You mean a -plush unipool, right?

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Cute and cut'ly

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