paizo.com Recent Posts in Sleep in armor?paizo.com Recent Posts in Sleep in armor?2017-10-23T11:35:04Z2017-10-23T11:35:04ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Claxonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#232022-05-04T12:57:38Z2022-05-04T12:56:07Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Owen KC Stephens wrote:</div><blockquote> Since we were both trying to simplify the game, and had decided to give people armor that can give you days of life support, we decided to eliminate any penalty for sleeping or resting in armor. </blockquote><p>Well it only took a few years to make it "official", but I appreciate getting an official resolution.
<p>I phrase it that way, because the real issue is people thinking because it existed in PF1 it needed to exist in Starfinder. There are no rules saying it's a problem, but people wanted to make it a problem.</p>Owen KC Stephens wrote:Since we were both trying to simplify the game, and had decided to give people armor that can give you days of life support, we decided to eliminate any penalty for sleeping or resting in armor.
Well it only took a few years to make it "official", but I appreciate getting an official resolution. I phrase it that way, because the real issue is people thinking because it existed in PF1 it needed to exist in Starfinder. There are no rules saying it's a problem, but people...Claxon2022-05-04T12:56:07ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#222022-05-04T16:49:35Z2022-05-04T08:25:20Z<p>Since we were both trying to simplify the game, and had decided to give people armor that can give you days of life support, we decided to eliminate any penalty for sleeping or resting in armor.</p>Since we were both trying to simplify the game, and had decided to give people armor that can give you days of life support, we decided to eliminate any penalty for sleeping or resting in armor.Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2022-05-04T08:25:20ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Wei Ji the Learnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#212017-10-25T13:21:29Z2017-10-25T13:21:29Z<p>This... also solves the 'free clothing question' when one thinks about it.</p>This... also solves the 'free clothing question' when one thinks about it.Wei Ji the Learner2017-10-25T13:21:29ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?ghostunderasheethttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#202017-10-25T13:21:02Z2017-10-25T03:36:07Z<p>It would suck to have to take your armor off to sleep..... when your floating in the hard vaccum of space, when it is the only thing keeping you alive. </p>
<p>In the time it took to advance from pathfinder to starfinder, i think they had suitable advances in armor tech that they made armor that did not chafe. Thus did not bother one's sleep.</p>It would suck to have to take your armor off to sleep..... when your floating in the hard vaccum of space, when it is the only thing keeping you alive.
In the time it took to advance from pathfinder to starfinder, i think they had suitable advances in armor tech that they made armor that did not chafe. Thus did not bother one's sleep.ghostunderasheet2017-10-25T03:36:07ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?mike roper (alias of Stower)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#192017-10-25T02:07:20Z2017-10-25T02:07:20Z<p>Why not? Quick toss of my nano self leveling memory foam bed and I will sleep like a baby</p>Why not? Quick toss of my nano self leveling memory foam bed and I will sleep like a babymike roper (alias of Stower)2017-10-25T02:07:20ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Metaphysicianhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#182017-10-25T01:41:35Z2017-10-25T01:41:35Z<p>Just because you can sleep in it, doesn't mean you can sleep •well•.</p>Just because you can sleep in it, doesn't mean you can sleep *well*.Metaphysician2017-10-25T01:41:35ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Sober Caydenitehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#172022-05-04T12:54:49Z2017-10-24T18:39:42Z<p>Considering that all armor provides life support for 1 day/level, it seems reasonable that it is designed to be slept in. Otherwise, what is the point of being able to survive in armor for 10 days if you have to take it off to sleep?</p>Considering that all armor provides life support for 1 day/level, it seems reasonable that it is designed to be slept in. Otherwise, what is the point of being able to survive in armor for 10 days if you have to take it off to sleep?Sober Caydenite2017-10-24T18:39:42ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?kaidhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#162017-10-24T16:19:54Z2017-10-24T16:19:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">David knott 242 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">kaid wrote:</div><blockquote> I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it. </blockquote><p>There is no such thing as medium armor in Starfinder.
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</blockquote><p>To used to pathfinder I meant heavy and power armor.David knott 242 wrote:kaid wrote: I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it.
There is no such thing as medium armor in Starfinder.
To used to pathfinder I meant heavy and power armor.kaid2017-10-24T16:19:54ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Peathttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#152017-10-24T19:49:27Z2017-10-24T12:59:36Z<p>There is no rule. I think this is similar to the other thread about Age Progression where because it existed in PF some people feel you must address it in SF. Some things were just cut because they add more complexity without adding more fun. If it's fun to be ambushed without your gear you could always house rule it.</p>There is no rule. I think this is similar to the other thread about Age Progression where because it existed in PF some people feel you must address it in SF. Some things were just cut because they add more complexity without adding more fun. If it's fun to be ambushed without your gear you could always house rule it.Peat2017-10-24T12:59:36ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?mike roper (alias of Stower)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#142017-10-24T06:11:29Z2017-10-24T06:11:29Z<p>Think EC gamer guy has the right of it. This thing has hook ups, FM/am and was 3d scanned to fit you (made that last bit up)</p>Think EC gamer guy has the right of it. This thing has hook ups, FM/am and was 3d scanned to fit you (made that last bit up)mike roper (alias of Stower)2017-10-24T06:11:29ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?David knott 242https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#132017-10-25T13:20:33Z2017-10-23T21:03:18Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">kaid wrote:</div><blockquote> I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it. </blockquote><p>There is no such thing as medium armor in Starfinder.kaid wrote:I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it.
There is no such thing as medium armor in Starfinder.David knott 2422017-10-23T21:03:18ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?EC Gamer Guyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#122017-10-24T13:17:10Z2017-10-23T20:43:27Z<p>I would think you could sleep in armor without a problem. It would really suck to be on a hostile environment planet, have a week of food, water and air in your suit but not be able to sleep in it.</p>I would think you could sleep in armor without a problem. It would really suck to be on a hostile environment planet, have a week of food, water and air in your suit but not be able to sleep in it.EC Gamer Guy2017-10-23T20:43:27ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?kaidhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#112017-10-23T20:38:18Z2017-10-23T20:38:18Z<p>I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it.</p>I think sleeping in light armor like second skin would be a non issue. It is basically just clothing for bulk wise so it would be like sleeping in long johns. A lot of the other light armor is basically just like clothing as well. Medium and heavy may wind up inhibiting a solid night sleep just due to the bulk/shape of it.kaid2017-10-23T20:38:18ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Darkling36 (alias of Brandon s)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#102017-10-24T13:16:35Z2017-10-23T15:14:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">WarEagleMage wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The rule you are looking for is under "Armor Check Penalty" in the Equipment section:
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"Sleeping in armor: A character who sleeps in medium or heavy armor is automatically fatigued the next day. He takes a -2 penalty on Strength and Dexterity and can't charge or run. Sleeping in light armor does not cause fatigue."
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This can be mitigated with the Endurance Feat as noted above, and also by the magical enhancement Restful Armor from the Advanced Class Guide.
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</blockquote><p>That would be Pathfinder, not Starfinder.
<p>I'd say there's no reason you can't sleep in it. Might not be the most comfortable but some armors provide weeks of life support, I feel like the designers would have made them comfortable enough to sleep in since otherwise most of that is wasted as the user dies from exposure or sleep deprivation before their armor runs out of supplies.</p>WarEagleMage wrote:The rule you are looking for is under "Armor Check Penalty" in the Equipment section:
"Sleeping in armor: A character who sleeps in medium or heavy armor is automatically fatigued the next day. He takes a -2 penalty on Strength and Dexterity and can't charge or run. Sleeping in light armor does not cause fatigue."
This can be mitigated with the Endurance Feat as noted above, and also by the magical enhancement Restful Armor from the Advanced Class Guide.
That would be...Darkling36 (alias of Brandon s)2017-10-23T15:14:01ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?WarEagleMagehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#82022-09-07T06:11:33Z2017-10-23T15:09:22Z<p>The rule you are looking for is under "Armor Check Penalty" in the Equipment section:
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"Sleeping in armor: A character who sleeps in medium or heavy armor is automatically fatigued the next day. He takes a -2 penalty on Strength and Dexterity and can't charge or run. Sleeping in light armor does not cause fatigue."
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This can be mitigated with the Endurance Feat as noted above, and also by the magical enhancement Restful Armor from the Advanced Class Guide.</p>The rule you are looking for is under "Armor Check Penalty" in the Equipment section:
"Sleeping in armor: A character who sleeps in medium or heavy armor is automatically fatigued the next day. He takes a -2 penalty on Strength and Dexterity and can't charge or run. Sleeping in light armor does not cause fatigue."
This can be mitigated with the Endurance Feat as noted above, and also by the magical enhancement Restful Armor from the Advanced Class Guide.WarEagleMage2017-10-23T15:09:22ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Malk_Contenthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#72017-10-23T15:02:04Z2017-10-23T15:02:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MeriDoc- wrote:</div><blockquote> Look under the endurance feat in CRB </blockquote><p>There is no such feat.MeriDoc- wrote:Look under the endurance feat in CRB
There is no such feat.Malk_Content2017-10-23T15:02:04ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?MeriDoc- (alias of Righty_)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#62017-10-23T14:47:43Z2017-10-23T14:47:43Z<p>Look under the endurance feat in CRB</p>Look under the endurance feat in CRBMeriDoc- (alias of Righty_)2017-10-23T14:47:43ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Metaphysicianhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#52017-10-23T14:36:14Z2017-10-23T14:36:14Z<p>Entirely up to the GM, though logically it would depend on the type of armor. Many forms of light armor are similar to clothing, so sleeping in them would be similar to just sleeping dressed. Heavy armor. . . if you tried that, you'd be eating fatigue penalties.</p>Entirely up to the GM, though logically it would depend on the type of armor. Many forms of light armor are similar to clothing, so sleeping in them would be similar to just sleeping dressed. Heavy armor. . . if you tried that, you'd be eating fatigue penalties.Metaphysician2017-10-23T14:36:14ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Slamy Mcbiteohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#42017-10-23T12:12:24Z2017-10-23T12:10:49Z<p>I would think it would be a GM decision. Maybe look at the Sleep deprivation rules and derive something off that. Looks like a Fortitude save each day they wear their armor might work.</p>I would think it would be a GM decision. Maybe look at the Sleep deprivation rules and derive something off that. Looks like a Fortitude save each day they wear their armor might work.Slamy Mcbiteo2017-10-23T12:10:49ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?mike roper (alias of Stower)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#32017-10-23T12:05:39Z2017-10-23T12:05:39Z<p>Not a thing I can find about about it so yes</p>Not a thing I can find about about it so yesmike roper (alias of Stower)2017-10-23T12:05:39ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Starship Captain Yesterday (alias of captain yesterday)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#22017-10-23T11:57:25Z2017-10-23T11:57:25Z<p>I sleep on a star ship...</p>I sleep on a star ship...Starship Captain Yesterday (alias of captain yesterday)2017-10-23T11:57:25ZForums: Rules Questions: Sleep in armor?Bruno Mareshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uoo0?Sleep-in-armor#12017-10-23T11:35:04Z2017-10-23T11:35:04Z<p>Can a PC sleep in armor? There is no info about it in the core... </p>
<p>Any ideas?</p>Can a PC sleep in armor? There is no info about it in the core...
Any ideas?Bruno Mares2017-10-23T11:35:04Z