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Gear/items you’re selling here (so far):

Base Sell Value (assuming half purchase price):

Camels – 12 (150/2 = 75 x 12) = 900 GP
MW Survival Kits – 3 (50/2 = 25 x 3) = 75
Four-person Tents - 4 (30/2 = 15 x 4) = 60
Slave Wagon – 1 (100/2 = 50) = 50

Total base gold before haggling – 1,085 GP

If you divide this equally (and include Samir and Farrokh) you’d net out a base 155 GP (approximately).

Remember, this doesn’t include the stacks of gold/silver/copper coins you found, or the cost of the opiate you found (that price will likely fluctuate depending on who you sell it to).

Probable base price the following will occur (depending on bargaining)

Expensive rugs – 2 (500/2 = 250 x 2) 500 GP
Minor Spice Set – 1 (20/2 = 10) = 10
Exotic Tea – (enough for 20 cups) (10/2 = 5 x 20= 100 GP FYI, while this Tea is from Taikang it was not formally studied, but if it had, you would have already discovered that this type of tea is formally considered - Medicinal Tonic - however, via the description its important to remember that anyone who drinks this gets the same bonus a Halfling would, no matter what race they happen to be.

Total potential gold made later (fluctuates largely based on who you sell it to and your bargaining checks, if any) = 610 GP for a total of 87 additional GP (assuming you don’t keep any of it).

That’s only (roughly) 242 GP for each of you after you sell the Teas/Rugs (assuming you sell those) – but that will change when/if you sell the more exotic things such as the opiate (and again, that doesn’t count the gold you have or the value of some of your current magical items).

Finally, you’ll be paid directly from Sefu for your journey after he consults with Yetara.

Note: Sefu sold his own six camels; the twelve camels you are selling come from the four camels which pulled the wagon, and the sixteen camels that pulled the Zadjites and their twelve guards. However, this is subtracting eight camels because the freed slaves are now riding their camels with Yetara through the streets.

Note: So what I was looking for the bulk of this transaction at some point was kind of the list above. At this time I don’t even know how much raw gold/silver/copper your party found during their trip, or who got the coin or how it was formally divided.

I haven’t been formally keeping a Loot List for your company, and at this time no one has, and it can be challenging to remember everything (I had to go back and read things over to find out what you found lately, actually). That being the case, does anyone want to make a Loot List? It would be very helpful and make sure that such divisions of loot go a lot faster in the future.

Okay, that’s pretty much it – unless anyone has any item that they’d like to also sell or if they’d like to adjust the list in any way.

If someone wants to toss up a total Bargaining Check via Diplomacy (those who Aid must be able to speak the language you are haggling in; thus, if one of you approaches a Khazistani merchant to haggle and they both speak Khazistani then no one can “Aid” the deal unless they speak the language of the haggling. Of course, you don’t need to speak Khazistani – you just pick the language you want to haggle with and you’ll find someone in this market who will do it).

So pick the language you want to haggle in and those people in the party who can Aid/Support toss up their Aid checks – we’ll get the full net value of the base stuff you sell here adjusted (and how you want to split it).

Silver Crusade

Dain GM wrote:
Note: Sefu sold his own six camels; the twelve camels you are selling come from the four camels which pulled the wagon, and the sixteen camels that pulled the Zadjites and their twelve guards. However, this is subtracting eight camels because the freed slaves are now riding their camels with Yetara through the streets.

Curious, I thought we were selling the camels we purchased, except for Tairins. that would be five more...

Also, only getting half price at the market? I guess we need to haggle.

Ok, either way, does anyone have a problem with Ala'Ihys recouping the 1.000 gp. he spent on the camels to get us out of town?


Female Decadent Yar-Ammonite Bard (Archaeologist) 5 , Ranger (Commando) 1| DR 2| AC 16, T14, FF13 (Uncanny Dodge)| HP 49/49, F+4/+5/+6, R+9, W+5, CMB +5, CMD 18| Init +3, Lowlight, Perc. +15/+17, Speed 30ft | , 0/10 Rds Archaeologist's Luck, 0/8 times Detect Magic

Dain GM: Tairin already rolled for bargaining/selling:

Quote:

Once we figure out what's left to sell, Tairin will use her charm with the merchants... I'll toss up the diplomacy check here to make it easier and if the site goes down again, we don't waste time (I'm heading out of town tomorrow for my sis-in-law's birthday bash and won't be home until very late in the night, so I won't be posting tomorrow, just FYI.) Tairin will add a some drops of perfume to the base of her throat, in order to be more appealing to the merchants.

Diplomacy to bargain/haggle with merchants including bonus from perfume: 1d20 + 14 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 14 + 2 = 32


Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:

]Curious, I thought we were selling the camels we purchased, except for Tairins. that would be five more...

Also, only getting half price at the market? I guess we need to haggle.

The above list was something I compiled; it isn't meant as definitive, it's actually the kind of thing that I thought one of you guys would compile and post up so this entire transaction would be easy.

At this time there is no one in the party keeping a "Loot List" so things like flipping items for loot is extremely, extremely challenging, time-consuming and laborious, unfortunately.

Meanwhile, reselling an item typically only nets you half the value of the base cost via core rules. In this case there is the option to bargain - the better the bargaining check via Diplomacy the better the total bonus you'll have to your sales.

Tairin of the Veils wrote:

Diplomacy to bargain/haggle with merchants including bonus from perfume: 1d20 + 14 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 14 + 2 = 32

That's absolutely correct! However, I was curious to know if your companions were willing to toss up Aid Checks to support you. A 32 is amazing, but the higher the number the better the ultimate result be for your rolls.

Also - I still don't know if the items I showed above are the correct amounts. For example; how many people are electing to sell their camels outright as opposed to keeping them in the stables to pick up later?

At this time I still have no real idea what your company wants to do except for the above list of how to sell things which I made up, and it seems like the party is not satisfied with that list currently, thought that may be a result of Ala's loss of revenue earlier.

Ala: for what it's worth, if you come up a bit short now, when you decide what to do with the poppy tears I think you'll easily pick up the balance. However, if you're concerned with the fact that you laid out the coin for the beasts and you're not getting repaid for them, hopefully your companions will agree to offering you more coin.

Meanwhile, if you're in a pinch for money there are ways for an enterprising individual to make some extra coin on the side after business has been concluded...

I'll be checking in on the board tonight; hopefully by then I'll see what you all want to do and we can go from there. If people don't post I'll assume that means they're in complete agreement with the decisions and rolls and we can go from there.


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

Patenemheb is all up for selling off spare gear, and may actually be able to complement Tairin's efforts.

Silver Crusade

Honestly Dain GM, I was a little confused by how we were purchasing items earlier. I know in traditional games you get half value for loot. But the way we were using diplomacy instead of appraise for bargaining, had me assuming that we were doing more of a realistic handling of items.

We're in a market that buys and sells camels regularly. Our camels have only been in the desert a few days and we've been feeding them regularly instead of letting them 'live' off of their hump, so they should be in top shape.

Also, I'd been waiting for people to say if they were keeping or sell their animals. I had also assumed that everyone had dismounted and we were selling all the 'stolen camels.' I was planning on helping with the list, but we never finalized actually what we were selling.

As for loot from here on out, the method I would recommend would be the most realistic and simplest. Let everyone list on their character sheet what they pick up in game. If they pick it up, basically claiming it then they carry it or are responsible for it, until they sell it. If someone doesn't 'pick something up' in game then it lays on the ground and we walk away from it. If they pick it up they will need to watch weight or make other arrangements like a pack-animal or asking a friend to carry it. Then they can sell it when it goes to market.


Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:
Honestly Dain GM, I was a little confused by how we were purchasing items earlier. I know in traditional games you get half value for loot. But the way we were using diplomacy instead of appraise for bargaining, had me assuming that we were doing more of a realistic handling of items.

That was the way of it via realistic - but to keep things more "balanced" via loot and selling I figured it would be half value, adjusted via Bargaining. In this specific case, for example, they have a large amount of camels to sell - if you wish to sell them yours all that does is mean they'd need to "flip" the camels you sold them via re-selling them and attempt to recoup the money they gave you for the camels, but also the space, feed and storage required to maintain the camels until someone bought them.

If it was completely realistic they might not buy your beasts as they may not have the room for so many extra animals; but we'll see how it goes down...

Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:
Also, I'd been waiting for people to say if they were keeping or sell their animals. I had also assumed that everyone had dismounted and we were selling all the 'stolen camels.' I was planning on helping with the list, but we never finalized actually what we were selling.

I understand completely. It's been nearly a month and half the party has not said definitively what they will do; those who DO say what they will do are mired by uncertainty.

I'll deal with this on the main thread soon, though.

As it stands - if you sell camels and teas/silks/spices you'd net only about 275 GP approximately. You'll get much more when/if you sell the poppy stuff, but more about that later...

Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:

As for loot from here on out, the method I would recommend would be the most realistic and simplest. Let everyone list on their character sheet what they pick up in game. If they pick it up, basically claiming it then they carry it or are responsible for it, until they sell it. If someone doesn't 'pick something up' in game then it lays on the ground and we walk away from it. If they pick it up they will need to watch weight or make other arrangements like a pack-animal or asking a friend to carry it. Then they can sell it when it goes to market.

Perfect solution! That's how it will be; old-school style.

If it's not on your sheet you don't have it.

If it IS on your sheet it needs to be recorded with not only the base price from the book (or one I quote you for later reference so we'll have a reference point when/if you sell it later) AND it needs to be placed somewhere you would carry it (i.e. - if you're carrying a spare shield does it go on your back, your belt pouch - unlikely - or in your backpack, for example); and finally you'll have to keep track of the weight via carrying capacity.

If it's not on your sheet, you don't have the gear!

Awesome :)

Now, on to adjust the Campaign Page to reflect your purchases.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

How does one “claim” a chest of coin? I’m confused as to picking stuff up is claiming it. Everything we’ve ever come across of some value we’ve claimed and carried via wagon and sold what we did not want.

It’s been noted several times over who’s keeping their camel and who isn’t. I’ve said Tairin’s keeping hers as did Patenemheb. The others I can’t remdmber off the top of my head; however it’ll be there somewhere among the discussion posts before the site outage.

For sake of ease, it should be that things we want to sell/buy, we find a market, we toss a diplomacy check and see how well we fare. The buying/selling stuff shouldn’t be complicated or bog down a game in the minutia of rules. Appraise has only ever been used to gauge the value of something so we can note it on the loot sheet and know how much we could expect to get for an item if we sell it (or we’re trying to divide the loot fairly across the PCs).

Silver Crusade

Dain GM wrote:
As it stands - if you sell camels and teas/silks/spices you'd net only about 275 GP approximately. You'll get much more when/if you sell the poppy stuff, but more about that later...

is the 275 gp total or each? I'm assuming Ala'Ihys recoups his expenditure off of the top, then we split what's left.

Ariarh Kane wrote:
How does one “claim” a chest of coin?

Easy, "Hey, I'm putting the chest of coins on the wagon, we'll split it later" then that person logs it on their sheet and when they sell it they split it, however the group has arranged it.

Thus we don't have anyone going "I put everything on the wagon" and we wait for days for someone to sell the thing. It just makes someone responsible for particular items.

In this case it would have made Ala'Ihys responsible for the armor he rolled up into the carpets, and the camels he had claimed as Reimbursement.

I'm not saying we don't split stuff, but it makes individuals responsible for specific things. Instead of just assuming someone else will do something else and they will still get their cut for not doing any RP.

Ariarh Kane wrote:
It’s been noted several times over who’s keeping their camel and who isn’t. I’ve said Tairin’s keeping hers as did Patenemheb. The others I can’t remdmber off the top of my head; however it’ll be there somewhere among the discussion posts before the site outage.

Three of us have said what we wanted done with our camels. And no one has commented if they care if Ala'Ihys regroups his losses, so I'm assuming it's ok.

Ariarh Kane wrote:
For sake of ease, it should be that things we want to sell/buy, we find a market, we toss a diplomacy check and see how well we fare. The buying/selling stuff shouldn’t be complicated or bog down a game in the minutia of rules. Appraise has only ever been used to gauge the value of something so we can note it on the loot sheet and know how much we could expect to get for an item if we sell it (or we’re trying to divide the loot fairly across the PCs).

Again, using diplomacy this way is a 'house rule' which is fine just different than what I'm used to.

And I don't know if can get anymore bogged down than we already are.

I think that if someone wants to Guarantee that something is aquired, then having them put it on their sheet, instead of assuming that someone else is taking care of it is reasonable.


Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:
is the 275 gp total or each? I'm assuming Ala'Ihys recoups his expenditure off of the top, then we split what's left.

The 275 was for each; however, that was largely predicated on the items listed above and how it might be split if everyone sold all the legal gear that could be sold at the market and split the coin evenly.

However; that has changed largely due to the fact that the company's Diplomacy Checks have bumped that 500 GP each, as noted on the Campaign Page.

Ariarh Kane wrote:

How does one “claim” a chest of coin?

Easy, "Hey, I'm putting the chest of coins on the wagon, we'll split it later"

That is a good idea; however, you could also "claim it" by splitting the coin at the time you pick it up. That's probably the easiest thing to split evenly (assuming you disclose each piece of treasure you find).

However, it's up to you how you divide coin.

Tairin; from what I can tell you already keep track of your goods and gear on your sheet fairly accurately so this should not affect you too much.

If someone wants something like a 5,000 gem, however, one person will have to keep the gem on them until it is sold or exchanged for something else, but if it's not something that's done with RP then it won't make a difference, so hopefully people will keep that in mind for the future.

Silver Crusade

Ok, again, Ala'Ihys would have insisted that he get reimburse before the split. One of the few things he has done is talk about taking care of the animals, to keep their value up. I have also commented several times that he is expecting reimbursement. He did spend his own money to save their hides. Is this something we need to RP in game before the sale?


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

I agree Ala’lhys should recoup as much coin as he can for the camels he purchased for the party’s use. In so much that, the group is not entitled to any of the coin on the sale of his remaining camels (that goes directly to Ala’lhys).

If Tairin and Paten keep their camels, then they pay Ala’lhys for them. I think Tairin’s already paid for hers?

As to the other camels we took from the guard at the Oasis, they are party loot, can be sold and the coin divided between the party.

Silver Crusade

began purchase here
Tarin assisted here
Red agreed to repay
Ala’Ihy’s original purchase of 191.5 gp
Tairin paying Ala’Ihys 37gp & 5cp. For gear
Ala’Ihys spending 907.5 gp. for everyone else’s gear.
907.5 – 37.05= 870.45 is the amount the group owes Ala’Ihys then add to that the value of the gear/camel, he is reselling which originally cost 191.45 gp (subtracted off the cost of food) if he is selling at half that would be 95.72 gp. so his cut would be a minimum of 966.17 before the pot is divided.

Tairin, Why would he not get full reimbursement for his expenditure before the cut?

if we need to work it out in game as RP that's fine, but I've said several times that he was planning on getting his money back, why is that just being challenged/confronted now?


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

I'm not challenging it at all. I'm just trying to understand what's going on with the sale and get this dealt with so we can move forward. Tairin's wealth at present isn't enough to cover the 150gp for the camel. So, I don't know how Ala'lhys is going to get the reimbursement before any sale from her. So, Ala'lhys can take Haji (Tairin's camel and the gear she purchased) and try to recoup his coin that way. Thanks.

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From the various coin we discovered in the tents around the Oasis, each person receives the following coin: 21 gp, 25 sp & 20 cp. (This includes the chests Tairin found and the one Red discovered in the tent she searched). This is coin we received/split before selling anything in Zul-Bazzir. Please note the coin on your sheets.

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Ala’Ihys the Archer wrote:

Tairin, Why would he not get full reimbursement for his expenditure before the cut?

if we need to work it out in game as RP that's fine, but I've said several times that he was planning on getting his money back, why is that just being challenged/confronted now?

This is becoming very complicated, unfortunately.

Okay; so originally I was under the impression that you were selling 12 camels - at half price that netted you 900 GP which was divided among you guys plus Farrokh and Samir - this means you each get a flat rate expressed here -

If you divide this equally (and include Samir and Farrokh) you’d net out a base 155 GP (approximately). - this was in reference to selling 12 camels the party has.

This was factored in to the parties GP earlier before Tairin and Paten's bargaining.

At this point go ahead and negate that.

Here's what's going to happen.

Tairin will pay you 150 GP for her camel.
Cas will pay you 150 GP for his camel - except he still has his camel and that will have to be done in RP as he's not there.
Bjeorn will pay you 150 GP for the camel.
Red will pay you 150 GP for her camel.
Samir will pay you 150 GP for your camel.

They may not have the money for that now and leave them in the negative, but that will be adjusted by the end of this post.

This nets you a total of 750 GP for their costs (however, you will have to get Cas's from him personally as he went with Yetara) leaving you only 500 GP at this time and your own camel.

At this time you have the money; each individual has their own camel, including yourself.

At this time Tairin, Red, Bjeorn and Samir will be selling their camels for a total of 100 each (via the bargaining check).

This means that Tairin, Red, Bjeorn and Samir will be down 50 GP after selling the camels they had purchased from you - Cas still needs to be accounted for.

At this time the party elects to sell 6 more camels which were found on the trail.

This nets the party a total of 600 GP, divided by 7 as Cas is not with you - those camels were worth 100 GP instead of 75 to resell because of Tairin and Paten's bargaining check.

At this time you have 82 GP from those six Camel Sales - except for Bjeorn, Red, Samir and Tairin - they only have 32 at this time.

You sold the other mundane stuff for 795 GP - divided by 7 that's a total of 113.5 GP - this nets the party a total of 195.5 GP.

Via Tairin and Paten's bargaining I'll round that up to 225 per person.

This means that Farrokh and Paten have 225 GP each.
Bjeorn, Red, Samir and Tairin have 175 GP and no one in their four people has any camels.
Ala has 725 GP and currently has possession of his own camel.

This is not a lot of money; things will change as the group moves forward and actually starts to deal with the Campaign Page and dealing with the actions on the page there.

This was a lot of work to do and not really how I'd like to do my games. With that in mind, I had hoped to expedite the process somewhat simply by granting everyone a simple flat 500 GP with Ala gaining a bonus of an extra 100 GP from it without having to do the math - this adjusted figure was a rather large bonus to reflect both the excellent bargaining by Tairin and Paten, but also to simplify things.

However; it is correct that my math and computations were not accurate. For example, I had included Cas in the arrangements when he wasn't present; and I had included the value of the camels sold outright with the adjusted value.

While my earlier way would have netted the current party a bit more money as a group (i.e. 500 for everyone but Ala, who would have 600 after Samir paid him the balance of the camels of 50 GP for him and Tairin - because Tairin and paten managed to sell the Camels at 100 GP instead of 75) that would have meant that Bjeorn and Red would be out 50 GP each and that at the end of the issue the following would have happened:

Ala would have 700 GP.
Bjeorn and Red would have 450 GP.
Paten, Farrokh and Tairin would have 500 GP.
Samir would have had 400 GP.

Again; I apologize for the mistake and confusion for not being accurate.

The correct figure after the full computation is as follows:

Farrokh and Paten have 225 GP each as well as their riding beasts.
Bjeorn, Red, Samir and Tairin have 175 GP and no one in their company has any camels.
Ala has 725 GP and currently has possession of his own camel.

This is not a lot of gold for a group of adventurers on level 4; but you are in town and will likely increase that amount by quite a bit once you figure out what to do with the opiates.

More can also be done on the campaign page.

Silver Crusade

Hey folks, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to be so argumentative about the money.

I'm just trying to find Ala'Ihy's character again. I don't know if it's the week off, or the battle or the pacing. But I'm struggling with fitting the character into the framework of things.

It has been about a week of no posting for me. Several games I was really excited about getting back to. A few games it was ok, as I knew we would continue to plod along. This is the only game I dreaded trying to post in character.

Having said that, since we are out of the desert and Ala'Ihys has gotten them safely to the next city. I am going to withdraw him from the game.

Once the camels and items are sold. He may drift into the city. Or possibly plan to take the slave girl back to her people; As penance for the cold blooded murder of her masters. Either way please write him out of the game.

Dain GM, thanks for running the game, I'm sorry that Ala'Ihys has become difficult for me to run. I wish everyone good luck and good gaming.


Female Decadent Yar-Ammonite Bard (Archaeologist) 5 , Ranger (Commando) 1| DR 2| AC 16, T14, FF13 (Uncanny Dodge)| HP 49/49, F+4/+5/+6, R+9, W+5, CMB +5, CMD 18| Init +3, Lowlight, Perc. +15/+17, Speed 30ft | , 0/10 Rds Archaeologist's Luck, 0/8 times Detect Magic

Sorry to see you go, Ala'lhys. I very much enjoyed your character in game. I wish you the best on the boards and in your real life. Please take care.


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

Ala'lhys, I am also sorry to see you go. You're a fine roleplayer and I'd happily game with you again. Hopefully things will go well for you.


Male Human (Tharag Thulan)
Stats:
hp 74/74 AC 21|T 14 |FF 18, F +7|R +2|W +4, Init +2, Per +10
Gladiator 6

Sorry to see you go!


Female Civilised Yar-Ammonite Witch (Bouda) 4 | HP 30/38 (1d6(=6, 4, 4,4=14)+4 FC + 8 Con ) | Defence AC 12 (Touch 12 Flat Footed 10) [/ooc] | CMB: +1, CMD: 13/11 |FL [| Init: +4 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 ooc] F: +3, R: +3, W: +5[/ooc] | Speed 30ft | Hexes Slumber - DC:17, Bouda Eye DC 17, Healing, Cackle, Fortune, Misfortune DC 17 | Spells: lvl0- 4 1st 5, 2nd 3 | Active conditions: None.

It was fun gaming with you Ala'lhys. Take care.

On loot, I think we really need one person to keep track of it. Having individuals record on their sheets what they have physically collected may give more detail, but it is going to lead to lots of work and maths when it comes to selling things, if not total chaos.

I don't mind doing it. All I ask is if people collect loot and it isn't in an open post tell me about it so I can keep track.

It may be obvious but I have not been posting much. I am still interested in the game, it's just the site has been down.


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

Yes, it's become clear that a single loot sheet would be very helpful.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Sorry, long day with Father’s Day here in Oz. It’s late, so I’m heading to bed. I’ll post Tairin’s reaction/response in my morning. Apologies for the hold up.


Female Decadent Yar-Ammonite Bard (Archaeologist) 5 , Ranger (Commando) 1| DR 2| AC 16, T14, FF13 (Uncanny Dodge)| HP 49/49, F+4/+5/+6, R+9, W+5, CMB +5, CMD 18| Init +3, Lowlight, Perc. +15/+17, Speed 30ft | , 0/10 Rds Archaeologist's Luck, 0/8 times Detect Magic

Dain GM:

Is NPC Alal'hys still with us or did he leave once the camels were sold in the market place? Just trying to figure out how many of us are around in game at the present time.

Also, when we were in the market earlier selling our camels and stuff, would Tairin have been able to purchase "Dancer’s Garb" Market Price 100 gp. (This combination of loose-fitting sashes, veils, and ornamentation accentuates a dancer’s form and movements. Dancer’s garb provides a +2 circumstance bonus on Perform (dance) checks, similar to that provided by masterwork instruments for other Perform skills, but does not grant this benefit when worn with armor or other concealing clothing.) Please let me know if she would have gotten a discount via the earlier diplomacy check in the market. Thanks, Dain GM.


Tairin of the Veils wrote:

Dain GM:

Is NPC Alal'hys still with us or did he leave once the camels were sold in the market place? Just trying to figure out how many of us are around in game at the present time.

Also, when we were in the market earlier selling our camels and stuff, would Tairin have been able to purchase "Dancer’s Garb" Market Price 100 gp. (This combination of loose-fitting sashes, veils, and ornamentation accentuates a dancer’s form and movements. Dancer’s garb provides a +2 circumstance bonus on Perform (dance) checks, similar to that provided by masterwork instruments for other Perform skills, but does not grant this benefit when worn with armor or other concealing clothing.) Please let me know if she would have gotten a discount via the earlier diplomacy check in the market. Thanks, Dain GM.

Given Ala's departure I'l just say he waited to collect his coin from Sefu and then went to travel with the dancing girl who was using the poppy plant.

As for the gear, I sent you a message on it, but it shouldn't be a problem.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Thank you, Dain GM. :)


Currently waiting for Red to tap in and then I'll move things forward.

FYI - I can do a split party event if you guys want to explore multiple variables.

Question - do we need another player since Ala has left the party?


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

I do not object to a split party, but wasn't planning on it.

I would be fine with another player, so long as they were willing to get their heads around the tone of Xoth. It is significantly different to typical D&D or PF games.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

I wasn’t planning on anything split party. Honestly, it seems kind of strange why as soon as we get to the mansion/estate, we turn right back and revisit/return to the city. Is there a rush/reason for it? I’m kind of at a loss why it needs to happen the same day? I can’t see any added benefit. If we had time before Yetara and his band returned to the house then why didn’t we just stay longer in the city in the first place? So, I’m fine with Tairin doing her own thing at the estate if the others want to go back to town this very day. All the to and fro that happens doesn’t make much sense to me except it seems the GM wants us in a particular location at a particular time. Tairin just wants to clean up and rest before their evening duty to Yetara.

As to a new player, I’d be open to one, too, and as Paten has said, one who can be flexible with the tone and machinations of Xoth. Does anyone have a friend who’d like to play in a Xoth game? Probably a quicker option than a formal recruitment. However, if there’s no takers, then formal recruiting is good. :)


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

This is the only xoth campaign that I'm familiar with.

Patenemheb isn't keen on town, though I did not make that clear.


Male Human (Tharag Thulan)
Stats:
hp 74/74 AC 21|T 14 |FF 18, F +7|R +2|W +4, Init +2, Per +10
Gladiator 6

Well I usually do this if I get to a new city. To get the lay of the land.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Dain GM, you may have missed this question on the game board, but how far is the city from the manor/estate by foot? I’m sorry if you’ve mentioned it already, but I can’t seem to find the distance.

Thanks!


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)
Bjoern Ghostbear wrote:
Well I usually do this if I get to a new city. To get the lay of the land.

No worries, B! Can you get the lay of the land in the morning of the next day? ;)


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

It's been almost a week since Red has posted. Her player is posting in some of his other games, so I sent Red a PM yesterday, but have not heard back as yet. I do hope to see something soon from Red.

Dain GM, since we're at this point in game and nothing major has happened in game in Zul-Bazzir, then perhaps it is a good time to put up a recruitment thread to get a new player in and ready before we move into more nitty-gritty activity? That way the new player won't miss out on much. Just a suggestion. :)


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

I agree that the recruitment post was a good idea.

It might be worth marking as inactive some of the ex- player and character aliases on the character page to declutter it.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Red: By “counteract” I meant act reactively or on the back foot.


Female Civilised Yar-Ammonite Witch (Bouda) 4 | HP 30/38 (1d6(=6, 4, 4,4=14)+4 FC + 8 Con ) | Defence AC 12 (Touch 12 Flat Footed 10) [/ooc] | CMB: +1, CMD: 13/11 |FL [| Init: +4 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 ooc] F: +3, R: +3, W: +5[/ooc] | Speed 30ft | Hexes Slumber - DC:17, Bouda Eye DC 17, Healing, Cackle, Fortune, Misfortune DC 17 | Spells: lvl0- 4 1st 5, 2nd 3 | Active conditions: None.

Sorry about the delay posting. I have been busy and there was a lot to catch up on.

There was a lot of time the Paizo site was down, and I think i missed it was reliably up for a while.

I said I would keep track of party loot. Can people note down the 50 gold they got just now themselves please. Maybe that is obvious.

Second, in game Sefu hired us for a 50 GP down payment and 5 GP a day, then said he would give us 25 GPs each at the end of the week. Are weeks in Zoth 5 days long, or is this a mistake, or something else. I raised it here rather than in game as it might just be a mistake.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Tairin keeps a thorough record of her own wealth on her profile page, so no worries Red (I've already updated her latest share of coin).

Just a heads-up: I will be attending my goddaughter's 3rd birthday party today. I'll be back on the boards later tonight, my time. :)


Female Civilised Yar-Ammonite Witch (Bouda) 4 | HP 30/38 (1d6(=6, 4, 4,4=14)+4 FC + 8 Con ) | Defence AC 12 (Touch 12 Flat Footed 10) [/ooc] | CMB: +1, CMD: 13/11 |FL [| Init: +4 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 ooc] F: +3, R: +3, W: +5[/ooc] | Speed 30ft | Hexes Slumber - DC:17, Bouda Eye DC 17, Healing, Cackle, Fortune, Misfortune DC 17 | Spells: lvl0- 4 1st 5, 2nd 3 | Active conditions: None.

Have fun.


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

Thanks! It was a full house, as is the way with hubby's side of the family. ;)


She Who Knows wrote:
Second, in game Sefu hired us for a 50 GP down payment and 5 GP a day, then said he would give us 25 GPs each at the end of the week. Are weeks in Zoth 5 days long, or is this a mistake, or something else. I raised it here rather than in game as it might just be a mistake.

A standard week is seven days long; it should be 35 GP.

Sorry for the delay; the Campaign Page will be updated soon, I just need to finalize the Map of the house as the Xoth books don't include any maps of any of their locations (except the world map).


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

@Dain: The extra work on your part is appreciated.


Given another long day at work I was still not able to finish the map, unfortunately.

However, as I've seen some new potential players on the Recruitment Thread I have to admit I'm not being too aggressive with it as I'm looking for a good place to have them drop in.

Meanwhile, look for a formal map/update sometime tomorrow night (or later this night depending on what time zone you're in).


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

Cheers for the heads up Dain.


My apologies; I was not able to produce a map for the game to my satisfaction. Instead, please read the description I have provided on the Campaign Page.

Please note - the information I provide is not complete - it is intentionally left blank in several places to inspire some direct investigation by the players.

Good luck!


Male Enlightened Yar-Ammonite Scholar 5 | HP: 36/36 | AC: 14 (14 Tch, 10 Fl) | CMB: +3, CMD: 13 | F: +1, R: +4, W: +8 | Init: -4 | Perc: +14 (+18 stonework), SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | +2 to Reflex saves and +2 AC (dodge) versus traps | See as Detect Magic | 0 non-lethal damage

Well, we'll just have to explore then, won't we?


Does anyone know what is going on with Red? I don't see her posting in this campaign and I'm curious to know what's up and if she's still interested.

If so, could someone please let me know? Thanks!


Female Aasimar Druid 7 (Noble)

I'll make a Tairin post in about an hour. I have some work I need to finish up before close of work day.


Ariarh Kane wrote:
I'll make a Tairin post in about an hour. I have some work I need to finish up before close of work day.

No worries; I understand about work.

Meantime, I'm curious to know what your next move is :)

Of course, if Paten, Bjeorn or Red have any other input for the Campaign then I'd be eager to hear it at this time, too!


Female Civilised Yar-Ammonite Witch (Bouda) 4 | HP 30/38 (1d6(=6, 4, 4,4=14)+4 FC + 8 Con ) | Defence AC 12 (Touch 12 Flat Footed 10) [/ooc] | CMB: +1, CMD: 13/11 |FL [| Init: +4 | Perc: +9, SM: +7 ooc] F: +3, R: +3, W: +5[/ooc] | Speed 30ft | Hexes Slumber - DC:17, Bouda Eye DC 17, Healing, Cackle, Fortune, Misfortune DC 17 | Spells: lvl0- 4 1st 5, 2nd 3 | Active conditions: None.
Dain GM wrote:

Does anyone know what is going on with Red? I don't see her posting in this campaign and I'm curious to know what's up and if she's still interested.

If so, could someone please let me know? Thanks!

I posted last Fri and Sat. I have checked since but didn't have much to say.

Before that there was a long time when the site was down and I didn't notice it was reliably up for a bit, then took some time reading everything. But I never lost interest.


Male Human (Tharag Thulan)
Stats:
hp 74/74 AC 21|T 14 |FF 18, F +7|R +2|W +4, Init +2, Per +10
Gladiator 6

Bjoern will take a bath and then start exploring the grounds, trying to find weakpoints, avenues of escape.
As for the general direction, some city adventures sound nice.

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