paizo.com Recent Posts in 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasquepaizo.com Recent Posts in 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasque2017-10-04T15:07:31Z2017-10-04T15:07:31ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueTacticslionhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#222017-10-05T17:12:47Z2017-10-05T17:12:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">wraithstrike wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Melkiador wrote:</div><blockquote> I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away. </blockquote>If you can get it to talk to you for 1 minute. It would more likely be trying to eat you. </blockquote><p>- <i>Blur</i>
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- <i>Displacement</i>
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- <i>Mirror Image</i>
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- <i>Overland flight</i>
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- <i>Glibness</i>
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- high AC (pushed higher than normal, by sacrificing unnecessary normal boosts, as needed)</p>
<p>-> 70% miss chance, mirror images for days, and flying beyond his reach (leaving only spines) while being the most amazing liar ever</p>
<p>"So, hi, Big-T, how are you? <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> So it seems, maybe, possibly, <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> that you might be kind of busy, and, you know, <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> I get it, I really do - I look tasty, you know? - and I'm with you, there, <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> but, here's the thing, I've got this proposal, right? Right. <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> So anyway, I've got this... <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> <i>opportunity</i>, you know? An <i>opportunity</i> for a... <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack•</span> <i>beautiful</i> engine of pure eradication, such as yourself. Something that only <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack, 'cause AC•</span> someone of your particular capabilities could possibly accomplish. You seem like an extremely <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack, 'cause AC•</span> intelligent sort, so I'm going to be honest - •cough• - with you. <span class=messageboard-ooc>•it misses you with an attack, 'cause AC•</span> I'm going to let you know exactly how you can get the tastiest morsels, and be a super-hero everyone wants to worship..."</p>
<p>Just keep a wand or something on-hand just in case of a crit. </p>
<p><i>Voila</i>~! </p>
<p>I'm a helper!</p>wraithstrike wrote:Melkiador wrote: I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away.
If you can get it to talk to you for 1 minute. It would more likely be trying to eat you. - Blur
- Displacement
- Mirror Image
- Overland flight
- Glibness
- high AC (pushed higher than normal, by sacrificing unnecessary normal boosts, as needed)-> 70% miss chance, mirror images for days, and flying beyond his reach (leaving only spines)...Tacticslion2017-10-05T17:12:47ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueClaxonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#212017-10-05T16:22:18Z2017-10-05T16:22:18Z<p>Considering a single level 18 wizard can solo the Tarrasque by themselves, a party of 3 with a mythic tier should have no problem.</p>
<p>The only reason the Tarrasque is "difficult" is because you can't keep it dead.</p>Considering a single level 18 wizard can solo the Tarrasque by themselves, a party of 3 with a mythic tier should have no problem.
The only reason the Tarrasque is "difficult" is because you can't keep it dead.Claxon2017-10-05T16:22:18ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueMelkiadorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#202017-10-05T17:13:18Z2017-10-05T13:10:27Z<p>In Aklo, "We're poison to Tarrasques. If you eat even a couple more people you won't be able to eat ever again. I recommend that you go and have fun destroying that uninhabited land over there."
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••Roll for bluff••</p>
<p>Or if you want to keep it at the Intelligence=3 level,
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"No eat. We gross. Not food. Better food that way." •Point•
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••Roll for bluff••</p>In Aklo, "We're poison to Tarrasques. If you eat even a couple more people you won't be able to eat ever again. I recommend that you go and have fun destroying that uninhabited land over there."
**Roll for bluff**
Or if you want to keep it at the Intelligence=3 level,
"No eat. We gross. Not food. Better food that way." *Point*
**Roll for bluff**Melkiador2017-10-05T13:10:27ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasqueohokwy.https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#192017-10-05T17:13:25Z2017-10-05T12:18:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Melkiador wrote:</div><blockquote> I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away. </blockquote><p>I'm torn. Part of me is like: "What? That's the stupidest plan I've ever heard."
<p>The rest of me is being like: "I have a vigilante with a ridiculous bluff bonus. I should put a rank in linguistics next level to learn Aklo."</p>Melkiador wrote:I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away.
I'm torn. Part of me is like: "What? That's the stupidest plan I've ever heard." The rest of me is being like: "I have a vigilante with a ridiculous bluff bonus. I should put a rank in linguistics next level to learn Aklo."ohokwy.2017-10-05T12:18:39ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasquethelivingmonkeyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#182017-10-05T17:13:30Z2017-10-05T11:54:23Z<p>It can't speak Aklo, it specifically says so in its bestiary entry. It understands Aklo though, so you could talk to it, it just wouldn't talk back.</p>It can't speak Aklo, it specifically says so in its bestiary entry. It understands Aklo though, so you could talk to it, it just wouldn't talk back.thelivingmonkey2017-10-05T11:54:23ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasquewraithstrike (alias of concerro)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#172017-10-05T17:03:49Z2017-10-05T06:28:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Melkiador wrote:</div><blockquote> I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away. </blockquote><p>If you can get it to talk to you for 1 minute. It would more likely be trying to eat you.Melkiador wrote:I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away.
If you can get it to talk to you for 1 minute. It would more likely be trying to eat you.wraithstrike (alias of concerro)2017-10-05T06:28:05ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueGoth Guruhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#162017-10-05T17:13:33Z2017-10-05T05:24:20Z<p>An artifact that does prismatic spray would be good against it. Either that or a golem releasing an orb of oblivion inside the Tarrasque.</p>An artifact that does prismatic spray would be good against it. Either that or a golem releasing an orb of oblivion inside the Tarrasque.Goth Guru2017-10-05T05:24:20ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueMelkiadorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#152017-10-05T17:03:38Z2017-10-05T01:52:35Z<p>I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away.</p>I just noticed the Tarrasque speaks Aklo and has a really bad sense motive. So, I guess you could just bluff it away.Melkiador2017-10-05T01:52:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueAthaleonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#142017-10-05T17:13:44Z2017-10-05T01:13:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I feel like a terrasque having minions doesn't make much sense. </p>
<p>What you could do is put something before it (like something running away) so they use some resources before hand. </blockquote><p>The Tarrasque is the Spawn of Rovagug so it would make sense for it to be accompanied by cultists (at least one of whom might be a powerful caster) and perhaps lesser (but still powerful) creatures of the same bent.Chromantic Durgon I feel like a terrasque having minions doesn't make much sense.
What you could do is put something before it (like something running away) so they use some resources before hand.
The Tarrasque is the Spawn of Rovagug so it would make sense for it to be accompanied by cultists (at least one of whom might be a powerful caster) and perhaps lesser (but still powerful) creatures of the same bent.Athaleon2017-10-05T01:13:30ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueThirdhorsemanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#132017-10-04T22:35:42Z2017-10-04T22:35:42Z<p>well, minions wouldn't be the right term you're right,possibly enemies just a little less appetizing to the tarrasque itself. though I was planning on having a fight directly before to drain at least a few resources</p>well, minions wouldn't be the right term you're right,possibly enemies just a little less appetizing to the tarrasque itself. though I was planning on having a fight directly before to drain at least a few resourcesThirdhorseman2017-10-04T22:35:42ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueChromantic Durgon <3https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#122017-10-05T17:02:52Z2017-10-04T22:15:01Z<p>I feel like a terrasque having minions doesn't make much sense. </p>
<p>What you could do is put something before it (like something running away) so they use some resources before hand.</p>I feel like a terrasque having minions doesn't make much sense.
What you could do is put something before it (like something running away) so they use some resources before hand.Chromantic Durgon <32017-10-04T22:15:01ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the Tarrasquewraithstrike (alias of concerro)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#112017-10-05T17:02:44Z2017-10-04T22:02:47Z<p>As long as they know they will fight it a group of 15 level characters could do it without any mythic levels.</p>As long as they know they will fight it a group of 15 level characters could do it without any mythic levels.wraithstrike (alias of concerro)2017-10-04T22:02:47ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueThirdhorsemanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#102017-10-04T20:52:30Z2017-10-04T20:52:30Z<p>but since people generally seem to agree they'll manage alright, would it be a good idea to throw in some minions along with the tarrasque to give them a few more targets to hit?</p>but since people generally seem to agree they'll manage alright, would it be a good idea to throw in some minions along with the tarrasque to give them a few more targets to hit?Thirdhorseman2017-10-04T20:52:30ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueThirdhorsemanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#92017-10-04T19:28:39Z2017-10-04T19:28:39Z<p>he's actually mostly barbarian, just a few levels of kineticist, using a conductive weapon if I remember correctly to add a bit of damage. it's been a while since they used those characters, so I'm a bit fuzzy on the details. and the gunslinger is mostly magus levels, but he does have a weapon from the technology guide which will be dealing force damage at a very long range.</p>he's actually mostly barbarian, just a few levels of kineticist, using a conductive weapon if I remember correctly to add a bit of damage. it's been a while since they used those characters, so I'm a bit fuzzy on the details. and the gunslinger is mostly magus levels, but he does have a weapon from the technology guide which will be dealing force damage at a very long range.Thirdhorseman2017-10-04T19:28:39ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueChromantic Durgon <3https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#82017-10-05T17:02:24Z2017-10-04T19:10:20Z<p>That's a good point, a fire kineticts is gonna have a bad time.</p>That's a good point, a fire kineticts is gonna have a bad time.Chromantic Durgon <32017-10-04T19:10:20ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueMelkiadorhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#72017-10-05T17:02:13Z2017-10-04T19:06:35Z<p>The gunslinger should whittle it down pretty quickly as long as you can keep him safe. The kineticist's usefulness is dependent on what elements he uses. If he's primarily fire, then he's out of luck.</p>The gunslinger should whittle it down pretty quickly as long as you can keep him safe. The kineticist's usefulness is dependent on what elements he uses. If he's primarily fire, then he's out of luck.Melkiador2017-10-04T19:06:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueThirdhorsemanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#62017-10-05T17:02:14Z2017-10-04T19:02:36Z<p>they are decently built but not 100% min maxed, and as stated, the closest thing to a full caster they have is a magus. they are not specifically preparing or building characters for this encounter.</p>they are decently built but not 100% min maxed, and as stated, the closest thing to a full caster they have is a magus. they are not specifically preparing or building characters for this encounter.Thirdhorseman2017-10-04T19:02:36ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueChromantic Durgon <3https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#52017-10-05T17:01:43Z2017-10-04T18:44:26Z<p>Pretty sure one level 18 none mythic character could defeat the Terrasque if built properly. </p>
<p>I think that party you describe should be fine the only issue I see is what they do with it once they K.O it. Usually this involves a high level casting plane shifting/teleporting it somewhere convenient or putting it in stasis. So that could arguably be a problem for them.</p>Pretty sure one level 18 none mythic character could defeat the Terrasque if built properly.
I think that party you describe should be fine the only issue I see is what they do with it once they K.O it. Usually this involves a high level casting plane shifting/teleporting it somewhere convenient or putting it in stasis. So that could arguably be a problem for them.Chromantic Durgon <32017-10-04T18:44:26ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueVolkard Abendroth (alias of Michael Sumrall)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#42017-10-05T17:01:24Z2017-10-04T18:41:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thirdhorseman wrote:</div><blockquote> simple enough question, could 3 level 18 characters with one mythic tier defeat the tarrasque.</blockquote><p>One level 18, with decent optimization, can defeat the tarrasque. Without being mythic.
<p>A well built fighter can manage 400+ DPR against the Tarrasque while the Tarrasque would need to roll natural 20's to hit the fighter.</p>
<p>With a little advance preparation, it's not difficult for a caster to overcome the Tarrasque's spell resistance and <i>Plane Shift</i> it somewhere else or <i>Trap the Soul</i>.</p>Thirdhorseman wrote:simple enough question, could 3 level 18 characters with one mythic tier defeat the tarrasque.
One level 18, with decent optimization, can defeat the tarrasque. Without being mythic. A well built fighter can manage 400+ DPR against the Tarrasque while the Tarrasque would need to roll natural 20's to hit the fighter.
With a little advance preparation, it's not difficult for a caster to overcome the Tarrasque's spell resistance and Plane Shift it somewhere else or Trap the...Volkard Abendroth (alias of Michael Sumrall)2017-10-04T18:41:54ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueKaousehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#32017-10-05T17:01:24Z2017-10-04T18:29:29Z<p>A single one of them could solo the Terrasque with a Mythic tier (Mythic Vital Strike). A caster of that level doesn't even need the Mythic tier (Trap the Soul).</p>A single one of them could solo the Terrasque with a Mythic tier (Mythic Vital Strike). A caster of that level doesn't even need the Mythic tier (Trap the Soul).Kaouse2017-10-04T18:29:29ZRe: Forums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueDastishttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#22017-10-05T17:01:24Z2017-10-04T15:38:48Z<p>Yeah they should be fine assuming their builds are decent</p>Yeah they should be fine assuming their builds are decentDastis2017-10-04T15:38:48ZForums: Advice: 3 lvl 18 characters with one mythic tier vs the TarrasqueThirdhorsemanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uncm?3-lvl-18-characters-with-one-mythic-tier-vs#12017-10-04T15:07:31Z2017-10-04T15:07:31Z<p>simple enough question, could 3 level 18 characters with one mythic tier defeat the tarrasque. I have a small one shot I'm planning to run soon and was both trying to think of a way to make it memorable and also this may be one rare opportunity to break out the big guns without worrying about tpking the party permanently.</p>
<p>They would also have some npc casting support (IE, some healing and buff spells being thrown in from the sidelines)</p>
<p>The party would consist of a lycanthrop bloodrager, a magus/gunslinger with a very high tech gun, and a kineticist/barbarian</p>simple enough question, could 3 level 18 characters with one mythic tier defeat the tarrasque. I have a small one shot I'm planning to run soon and was both trying to think of a way to make it memorable and also this may be one rare opportunity to break out the big guns without worrying about tpking the party permanently.
They would also have some npc casting support (IE, some healing and buff spells being thrown in from the sidelines)
The party would consist of a lycanthrop bloodrager, a...Thirdhorseman2017-10-04T15:07:31Z