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I was looking at the Aldori Defender fighter archetype, and noticed the following silliness (well, at least to me; emphasis mine):
Although this archetype replaces some of the bonus feats that a fighter would normally have access to, Aldori defenders still have several opportunities to gain feats. The following feats are the most thematically appropriate for an Aldori defender, but the archetype does not require any of them: Aldori Dueling Mastery (see page 24), Combat Expertise, Dazzling Display, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Aldori dueling sword), Improved Disarm, Improved Feint, Improved Initiative, Lunge, Quick Draw, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Aldori dueling sword), Weapon Specialization (Aldori dueling sword).
At 6th level, when an Aldori defender successfully disarms an opponent using an Aldori dueling sword, he also deals normal damage to the target, but without the normal Strength bonus to damage.
This ability replaces the bonus feat the fighter would normally gain at 6th level.
So, none of the feats are required to use this archetype, but no where in Disarming Strike does it allow you to not provoke an attack of opportunity for using your ability.
That means you now either have 2 feat taxes in addition to losing 3 bonus feats or just accepting you have an ability which you will never use.
I mean, sure, you can just house rule it. Out of luck if you're in PFS though.
For what it is worth, I feel that they should get a free Exotic Weapon proficiency...Maybe at the loss of shields?...
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For what it is worth, I feel that they should get a free Exotic Weapon proficiency...Maybe at the loss of shields?...
Yeah, I think they should lose some of their armor/shield proficiencies to gain Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Aldori Dueling Sword) too.
Right now, the most optimal way to play this archetype is to wear heavy armor, use an Aldori Dueling Sword as a longsword (thus not needing to get the Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat), focus on strength, and 2-hand power attack with it. Which is the opposite of what the archetype is supposed to be *sigh*.
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Or it's an ability you use against does without a melee weapon to threaten (such as if you wish to disarm them of bows), or non-weapon item 9such as a wand), or only after it's already taken an Attack of Opportunity for the round (possibly by you moving past it, so you are sure it's AoO count hasn't reset), or when your AC is extremely high and/or you have fast healing...
Yeah, it makes sense to get Improved Disarm for this, but since I have seen people use Disarm by itself without the appropriate feat, there's no reason to think they wouldn't do it while getting bonus damage as well.
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Or it's an ability you use against does without a melee weapon to threaten (such as if you wish to disarm them of bows), or non-weapon item 9such as a wand), or only after it's already taken an Attack of Opportunity for the round (possibly by you moving past it, so you are sure it's AoO count hasn't reset), or when your AC is extremely high and/or you have fast healing...
Yeah, it makes sense to get Improved Disarm for this, but since I have seen people use Disarm by itself without the appropriate feat, there's no reason to think they wouldn't do it while getting bonus damage as well.
I'll concede that, under those situations, it becomes a usable ability if you haven't invested in Improved Disarm or a similar ability. Still seems counter-intuitive to me from a design perspective.