Do exploding grenades blow up other grenades?


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Scarab Sages

If someone uses "Pull the Pin" on an enemy wearing a bandolier of grenades, do the other grenades go off if they are caught in the explosion?

What if someone carrying grenades is hit by a thrown grenade?

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Most grenade explosives are heat-insensitive and impact-insensitive. However, there's a good chance that a grenade going off next to another grenade will ignite its primer charge, which is not.

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Also: "This is from... Matilda."


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In game an item would have to at least be damaged (most likely destroyed) to blow up. Since there is no rules about objects you have taking damage from area effects (no roll a "1" damage an object rule), you'd specifically have to target an attended grenade to damage it.
I'd tend to not have unattended stacks of grenades blow up, otherwise you'll end up with players using that tactic.

Scarab Sages

Kittyburger wrote:
Also: "This is from... Matilda."

Sorry, missing the reference?

Scarab Sages

Tali Wah wrote:

In game an item would have to at least be damaged (most likely destroyed) to blow up. Since there is no rules about objects you have taking damage from area effects (no roll a "1" damage an object rule), you'd specifically have to target an attended grenade to damage it.

I'd tend to not have unattended stacks of grenades blow up, otherwise you'll end up with players using that tactic.

Sounds like that's the answer. Thanks!


Leon, aka The Professional.


I started replying to this before I realized it was a Starfinder thread and not a Pathfinder one...and in Pathfinder a whole lot of open flame and a failed reflex save is going to ignite a few wicks. Thank goodness for advanced technology, huh?

Scarab Sages

Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

Scarab Sages

Vanykrye wrote:
I started replying to this before I realized it was a Starfinder thread and not a Pathfinder one...and in Pathfinder a whole lot of open flame and a failed reflex save is going to ignite a few wicks. Thank goodness for advanced technology, huh?

So, in the real world, you toss a grenade into a box of grenades the only thing that will happen is the grenades get scattered intact everywhere?


Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

near the end, when he's on his back and the cop comes up to him. he hands him a pin and says the line, and then essplooooooodeesss with the cop and all the grenades on his vest.


Reebo Kesh wrote:


So, in the real world, you toss a grenade into a box of grenades the only thing that will happen is the grenades get scattered intact everywhere?

You can get extremely lucky, or unlucky and hit the detonator, while keeping the majority of the grenade intact to be triggered by the detonator.

I would hope that the grenades in Starfinder are like what the IDF have came up with.
If you are interested, you can search for "idf-unveils-new-bullet-proof-grenade"


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rook1138 wrote:
Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

near the end, when he's on his back and the cop comes up to him. he hands him a pin and says the line, and then essplooooooodeesss with the cop and all the grenades on his vest.

Yes, he's not saying its from a movie called "Matilda." He's quoting a line from the movie, "Professional," in which the character, Leon, says "This is from Matilda."

Being one of my favorite movies, I picked up on it right away. :D

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Ravingdork wrote:
rook1138 wrote:
Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

near the end, when he's on his back and the cop comes up to him. he hands him a pin and says the line, and then essplooooooodeesss with the cop and all the grenades on his vest.

Yes, he's not saying its from a movie called "Matilda." He's quoting a line from the movie, "Professional," in which the character, Leon, says "This is from Matilda."

Being one of my favorite movies, I picked up on it right away. :D

I'm a she, but yeah.

Luc Besson is one of my favorite directors from the 1990s but his work in the 21st Century has NOT been up to his work from the 20th.


Ravingdork wrote:
rook1138 wrote:
Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

near the end, when he's on his back and the cop comes up to him. he hands him a pin and says the line, and then essplooooooodeesss with the cop and all the grenades on his vest.

Yes, he's not saying its from a movie called "Matilda." He's quoting a line from the movie, "Professional," in which the character, Leon, says "This is from Matilda."

Being one of my favorite movies, I picked up on it right away. :D

Yes, in the US it was called "The Professional", but in Europe it was titled "Leon: The Professional". I've also seen it simply called "Leon". The European release also had a lot of scenes that were deemed too...I don't know...mature...for American audiences. Not in a graphic way, but scenes that make most Americans a little squeamish since Natalie Portman was a kid at the time.

It's been Besson's best work, in my opinion. One of my all-time favorite movies.


Kittyburger wrote:


I'm a she, but yeah.

Luc Besson is one of my favorite directors from the 1990s but his work in the 21st Century has NOT been up to his work from the 20th.

Generally agree with you on that. He's not one of my favorite directors, and it's mostly because his later work has been not up to his earlier standards. I still really liked Lucy though, and that probably puts me in a minority.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
rook1138 wrote:
Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Leon, aka The Professional.

I figured that but I checked, the movie was never called Matilda in any country as far as IMDB is concerned.

It's been too long since I've seen it but there was a pull the pin scene? Towards the end?

near the end, when he's on his back and the cop comes up to him. he hands him a pin and says the line, and then essplooooooodeesss with the cop and all the grenades on his vest.

Yes, he's not saying its from a movie called "Matilda." He's quoting a line from the movie, "Professional," in which the character, Leon, says "This is from Matilda."

Being one of my favorite movies, I picked up on it right away. :D

Yes, in the US it was called "The Professional", but in Europe it was titled "Leon: The Professional". I've also seen it simply called "Leon". The European release also had a lot of scenes that were deemed too...I don't know...mature...for American audiences. Not in a graphic way, but scenes that make most Americans a little squeamish since Natalie Portman was a kid at the time.

It's been Besson's best work, in my opinion. One of my all-time favorite movies.

Yeah, he was one of my favourite directors as a student with Subway and the original Nikita film as well as Leon. But yeah out of his more recent work I think there is only The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec that I've really enjoyed.


In the real world it really depends on the type of explosives, ie bomb disposal units often use explosives to disable other explosives.
So a small explosion to negate a larger explosions.

Short version: No but...
But in game terms (which is what I think you were asking about) I would rule that the grenades were advanced enough that you cannot trigger one by throwing another on at it. But at the same time I would allow someone to create grenades that did not have this safety feature as a default. (So you a group could create the less safe grenade and sneakily replace grenades in a squad/unit/company and thus trigger a large explosion.)

MDC


Reebo Kesh wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
I started replying to this before I realized it was a Starfinder thread and not a Pathfinder one...and in Pathfinder a whole lot of open flame and a failed reflex save is going to ignite a few wicks. Thank goodness for advanced technology, huh?
So, in the real world, you toss a grenade into a box of grenades the only thing that will happen is the grenades get scattered intact everywhere?

no, you either end up with an explosion and little fragments of unexploded ordnance everywhere, or an explosion followed by at least one other explosion and fragments of unexploded ordnance everywhere. either way, the odds of any of the grenades surviving intact are small.

would also have to take into account what kind of grenade they are...

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