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The current scenarios will indeed only get you to level 2. Yesteryear's Truth is listed as tier 1-4 on the product page though not 3-4 so you should be able to play it in tier 1-2. Your players can play Claim to Salvation, but receive credit when they reach the appropriate level(in this case probably 3.)
Venture-Agent, Georgia—Atlanta
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They could be level 3 if they also played the AP Incident at Absalom Station", which is worth a full level and has been sanctioned for Starfinder.
As for Claim to Salvation, I don't know if it can be played with a normal character.
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Hello and welcome to Society Play!
Currently running just the Society Quests / Scenarios, players will be level 2.6, with a credit that cannot be applied to a character until they reach level 3.
Currently the most experience possible for a Society character is level 3, by including Incident at Absalom Station (tier 1-2.)
Level 1
Quest: Into the Unknown*
#1-01: The Commencement*
AP: Incident at Absalom Station*
Level 2
AP: Incident at Absalom Station
AP: Incident at Absalom Station
#1-02: Fugitive on the Red Planet
Level 3
#1-02: Yesteryears Truth
#1-00: Claim to Salvation
The Quest, Scenario, and AP marked with * are all repeatable, allowing a player to level multiple characters to level 2.
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Official Clarification: In future releases of the sanctioning document (starting with Adventure 2) we'll include some new verbiage that indicates that "Incident at Absalom Station" has the repeatable tag. For now, take this post as official, and know you can replay that adventure by following all the standard rules (basically, once per character).
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Venture-Agent, Georgia—Atlanta
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Official Clarification: In future releases of the sanctioning document (starting with Adventure 2) we'll include some new verbiage that indicates that "Incident at Absalom Station" has the repeatable tag. For now, take this post as official, and know you can replay that adventure by following all the standard rules (basically, once per character).
Thanks. I did not have time to find that earlier.
Starfinder Society Developer
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No worries. I knew I'd seen it, but couldn't find it by searching so I just went through Thurston's posting history. That way I can find it again easily when it inevitably comes up...
... stalker. ;)
Seriously, I'm hoping to find a good way to compile some of these clarifications in the future. Right now, I'm more concerned about getting the information out to people.
Venture-Captain, Illinois—Fairview Heights
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.
Sources:
RPGG pg 7, under "Applying Credit:"
"You may apply credit for an adventure
once your Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild character
reaches the level of the pregenerated character used to
play through it. For example, if you played a 8th-level
pregenerated character, you would apply the credit once
your character reaches 8th level."
RPGG pg 7, "Applying Credit", 4th bullet:
You can apply adventure credit from a higher-level sanctioned
module or Adventure Path to a newly created, 1st-level
Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild character. When
doing so, reduce the credits reward to 720 credits if the
adventure grants 1 XP or 2,160 credits if it grants 3 XP. You
do not benefit from any boons until your Starfinder Society
Roleplaying Guild character reaches the minimum level listed
on the Chronicle sheet, unless otherwise noted."
We ran 1-00 first, so that people could apply at level 1 that wanted to, then ran quest because it is limited to level 1. We're running 1-01 as well for the next few weeks. This will allow people to hit level 2, after which we will start offerng the AP in store as well as 1-02 and 1-03, so that high tier is an option for those seeking to play the latter two as high tier for the additional challenge.
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Venture-Captain, North Carolina—Central Region
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.
I could be wrong, but I believe they're referring to 1-00, which requires level 4 pregens but has a tier 3-4 Chronicle. You do have a point in that the Guide seems to be missing the language from the PFS one stating that, if a scenario requires the use of pregens, the levels on the sheet take precedence.
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.I could be wrong, but I believe they're referring to 1-00, which requires level 4 pregens but has a tier 3-4 Chronicle. You do have a point in that the Guide seems to be missing the language from the PFS one stating that, if a scenario requires the use of pregens, the levels on the sheet take precedence.
Huh, yeah. In PFS, in the past scenarios that required the use of pregens have been explicitly been allowed to be applied to the tier of the chronicle sheet, to the point that chronicle sheets have been revised to allow applying credit within a tier rather than the level of the pregen.
The language looks identical between the PFS and SFS guidebooks from my cursory look; I'll have to look again tonight.
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A typical Scenario is a fixed amount of content for which you will receive a Chronicle sheet for. The GM running the scenario will denote on the Chronicle what rewards you receive for playing that Scenario.
Into the Unknown is somewhat of a special case. There are 5 "quests" that can contribute to a single Chronicle sheet. You can play a single quest or up to all five, gaining increasing rewards as denoted on the Chronicle sheet depending on the number that you played. You only gain the XP, Fame, and Credits listed once, although running all five quests gives you access to both Boons.
However, if a character gains XP from another Chronicle sheet, he can no longer earn additional rewards for that character for playing the other Into the Unknown quests.
So, say you played through three of the Into the Unknown
Quests and wanted to play a different Scenario (for example, #1-01: The Commencement) using the credit you've gathered so far. That character (Call him "Dash700") would receive 1 XP, 1 Fame / Reputation, 420 Credits, and would have the Starfinder Insignia Boon available. After completing The Commencement, "Dash700" would add the XP, Fame, and credits he gained from that Scenario based on what is recorded on the Chronicle he received playing The Commencement.
At that point you *could* start playing the Into the Unknown Quests again (even including Quests that you had previously completed) but you would have to apply the credit to a different character ("Dash701".) Or you could continue playing different Scenarios with "Dash700".
Does that help?
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... stalker. ;)
Hey, just because I spent a bunch of time playtesting Vigilantes...
Seriously, I'm hoping to find a good way to compile some of these clarifications in the future. Right now, I'm more concerned about getting the information out to people.
A FAQ compilation would probably be the best place, though I know that requires extra logistics of involving the webteam. A single Stickied, locked thread would help, but I'm not sure if that's a pain on your end.
Venture-Captain, Minnesota
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.I could be wrong, but I believe they're referring to 1-00, which requires level 4 pregens but has a tier 3-4 Chronicle. You do have a point in that the Guide seems to be missing the language from the PFS one stating that, if a scenario requires the use of pregens, the levels on the sheet take precedence.
Even though the Guide Language is missing, I believe that the pregen requirement means that we can all apply at Level 3.
Hmm
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Venture-Captain, Illinois—Fairview Heights
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.I could be wrong, but I believe they're referring to 1-00, which requires level 4 pregens but has a tier 3-4 Chronicle. You do have a point in that the Guide seems to be missing the language from the PFS one stating that, if a scenario requires the use of pregens, the levels on the sheet take precedence.Even though the Guide Language is missing, I believe that the pregen requirement means that we can all apply at Level 3.
Hmm
That's a possibility. The other possibility is that given some of the other organized play differences, we have an obligation to keep in mind that this is not Pathfinder or PFS and that there are other changes in how GMs are required to handle things. I'm not convinced that "apply at the level you played, unless you need to apply it at the tier you played" is in the spirit of Starfinder's newfound simplicity and new-player friendliness.
Either way, until they errata, FAQ, clarify or republish it, do we not have an obligation to apply it RPGG as written? (Honest question, not rhetorical.)
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Venture-Captain, North Carolina—Central Region
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I keep seeing several people implying that a level 4 pregen credit can be applied to a level 3 character. This is false. You cannot apply pregen credit until your character reaches the level of the pregen that was played. You CAN however apply it to a newly created level 1. Notice the explicit use of "newly created" level 1, not just any level 1.I could be wrong, but I believe they're referring to 1-00, which requires level 4 pregens but has a tier 3-4 Chronicle. You do have a point in that the Guide seems to be missing the language from the PFS one stating that, if a scenario requires the use of pregens, the levels on the sheet take precedence.Even though the Guide Language is missing, I believe that the pregen requirement means that we can all apply at Level 3.
Hmm
That would be the way I would run it as well... Merely wanted to point that out for Thursty\Tonya as something that may have been inadvertently cut. :)
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Venture-Captain, Illinois—Fairview Heights
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I should probably clarify that this is really for my own edification. I have an incredibly literal mind and it works well in some aspects of my life. RAW in the most literal and strict sense of the phrase is always my subconscious default. If someone were to email me a message saying only "Let's eat Grandma!" I would immediately read a cannibalistic command. About a half a second later, I would realize the intent to be "Let's eat, Grandma!" which is far less nefarious and has an entirely different meaning.
Derivative connotation through presumption or assumption of implied intent based on past experiential learning in lieu of what was actually presented, for me, is a skill that consists almost exclusively of memorized, acceptable responses through social engagement. It isn't easy. But most people seem to enjoy playing with me because I am very light-hearted, casual and open-minded at the table. Behind the computer screen, I try to discern as much as I can so that I may be a more effective player, resource and GM.
Which leads to my final question on this topic.
Given the latitude that a GM has, does that latitude extend to superseding RAW for one system in favor of a distinctly separate, yet similar system from the same publisher based on an assumption that they want them to work the same, or is RAW law?
