Legacy Races in Starfinder Society


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Initially I was going to ask this of the forums, but found the answer myself and thought the community would benefit from the answer if they have a player ask the same thing.

The Legacy races in Chapter 11 of the Starfinder Core Rulebook (pp.506-511) are not considered always available as the Starfinder Society Guide states "The choices offered in Chapter 3 of the Starfinder Core Rulebook are always available" (p.20). This indicates that by omission, Legacy races are NOT Starfinder Society legal without a Personal Boon granting otherwise.

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Thursty has posted that they are working out how they will unlock the legacy races section, but that they wanted to focus on the actual Starfinder Core Races first. So we expect, eventually, they will come around, but I anticipate seeing some other, more alien-like races coming in (and not just from charity auctions) for a while before that happens.


Farrindor wrote:
Thursty has posted that they are working out how they will unlock the legacy races section, but that they wanted to focus on the actual Starfinder Core Races first. So we expect, eventually, they will come around, but I anticipate seeing some other, more alien-like races coming in (and not just from charity auctions) for a while before that happens.

That makes sense, not much point opening up a galaxy of possibility only to retread the same ground.

It was something I was curious about as to head off players that might have an eye on them when I start running Society locally and thought to share it as other GM's may have similar experiences.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber

Absolutely worth keeping in the forefront of people's thoughts given how much excitement can drive away higher thinking. :) I paraphrased Thursty to avoid the likely follow-up question of 'will we be able to later?' cropping up. That way we can focus on, 'how can Starfinder get rights to David Weber's treecats (or find a way to do a near-cat version of them)! Important things!

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Was there a Starfinder gencon race boon for GMs?

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Yes there was. Both were featured in the First Contact book released during Free RPG day.

The Haan for Tier 1 and 2, and the Sarcesian for tier 1 to 6.

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zefig wrote:
Was there a Starfinder gencon race boon for GMs?

Yes, and space gnome was not a choice.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Starfinder Superscriber

Note that GMs chose between a Pathfinder race boon and a Starfinder race boon; they didn't get both.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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rknop wrote:
Note that GMs chose between a Pathfinder race boon and a Starfinder race boon; they didn't get both.

And it was a really hard choice!!!

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Gary Bush wrote:
rknop wrote:
Note that GMs chose between a Pathfinder race boon and a Starfinder race boon; they didn't get both.
And it was a really hard choice!!!

That it was

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I dunno; I saw "catfolk" and pretty much said "KITTY!"

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rknop wrote:
I dunno; I saw "catfolk" and pretty much said "KITTY!"

Lol ... got home and the sister-wife threw pillows at me because I didn't bring the kitty home for her

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Venture-Captain, Alabama—Birmingham aka Grolloc

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I know they're not core races anymore, but I'd like to see the legacy races available sooner than later and without a bunch of of hoop jumping involved. I'm pretty sure the legacy races would be a much easier sell to those on the fence about joining a sci-fi game if some more familiar choices (other than human) were available. Those races are going to be less attractive to those already sold on the setting, but nice and comfortable to those who are hesitant.

I'm all for as many races as possible as fast as possible (cantina map is coming, let's fill 'er up!) And those legacy races are ready to go in the core rulebook.


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rknop wrote:
Note that GMs chose between a Pathfinder race boon and a Starfinder race boon; they didn't get both.

And now I am a little sad to be an Australian, far away from being able to gain the race access at GenCon...


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Mike Seales wrote:

I know they're not core races anymore, but I'd like to see the legacy races available sooner than later and without a bunch of of hoop jumping involved. I'm pretty sure the legacy races would be a much easier sell to those on the fence about joining a sci-fi game if some more familiar choices (other than human) were available. Those races are going to be less attractive to those already sold on the setting, but nice and comfortable to those who are hesitant.

I'm all for as many races as possible as fast as possible (cantina map is coming, let's fill 'er up!) And those legacy races are ready to go in the core rulebook.

This, precisely.

Also, I just really want to play a Halfling Envoy!

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rknop wrote:
I dunno; I saw "catfolk" and pretty much said "KITTY!"

The Gencon boon was catfolk?

Ok, I have to trade me for one of them.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

It is a tier 2 boon.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Starfinder Superscriber

There were several different races you could choose from. Tier 1 opened up the option of Puppyfolk (I forget their actual name), Tier 2 catfolk, and lower tiers some others. Races at tiers above whatever tier you were GMing got crossed out.


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I can forsee a series of scenerios where race boons show up on the Chronicle Sheet:

Like you adventure on Castrovel and when you're done there's a boon where you recruited some elves into the Society and now you can make an elf.

Maybe you save a Dwarven Citadel Ship and you get a chance to let a Dwarf join the team.

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Gnomes in SPA-A-A-A-ACE!

That's really all I have to say.

Hmm

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You want Gnomes...

...doesn't take a genius to figure out what I want... :>


Bears?

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 Venture-Agent, Georgia—Atlanta aka The Masked Ferret

Nagaji?


Everyone wants Nagaji.


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Squirrel!

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I am Groot!

Acquisitives 5/5 5/5

More comrades!


Beer?

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rknop wrote:
There were several different races you could choose from. Tier 1 opened up the option of Puppyfolk (I forget their actual name), Tier 2 catfolk, and lower tiers some others. Races at tiers above whatever tier you were GMing got crossed out.

Option One (Tier 1 GMs): Puppers!:
Rougarou. The wolf race from Bestiary 6 with Scent and the ability to change into a wolf 1/day!

Option Two (Tier 2-3 GMs): Kitties!:
Catfolk! The race from B3! Maybe in the next AR update, some of the Cool Catfolk options will be made legal from Advanced Race Guide or the other source books!

Option Two (Tier 4-5 GMs): A Wet Blanket:
But seriously, it's Naiad! They are a Water Aligned Fey race that are related to Water Nymphs from B6! They seem really exciting!


That's disappointing... I've got a creepy bleachling technomancer ready to go!

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voodoo chili wrote:
That's disappointing... I've got a creepy bleachling technomancer ready to go!

The Regional Support Program has an option for legacy races. If the venue where you GM is part of the RSP you could earn a race boon for yourself that way to play your bleachling.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

Where do we get the details of the regional support program....I can't find it anywhere?

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Sandra Wilkinson wrote:
Where do we get the details of the regional support program....I can't find it anywhere?

As far as I know, it hasn't been released yet. It's one of the many things mentioned in the guide that they're still working on getting online (other things have been added this week though, so progress!)

Shadow Lodge

New thought. If you have one of those unused elemental race boons or tri race boons from x years ago, go ahead and use as a "legacy race" starfinder boon or some variation of such.

Dark Archive 4/5 Venture-Agent, Maryland— Baltimore aka DrParty06

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Kerney wrote:
New thought. If you have one of those unused elemental race boons or tri race boons from x years ago, go ahead and use as a "legacy race" starfinder boon or some variation of such.

This pretty much only benefits people that have been playing PFS for a while and decided to save a stack of boons for whatever reason. Outside of maintaining the same venture corps, it seems pretty clear that Starfinder Society is setup to be an independent venture from PFS, which it should be as there's an entirely new audience that has never played Pathfinder interested in Starfinder.


DrParty06 wrote:
Kerney wrote:
New thought. If you have one of those unused elemental race boons or tri race boons from x years ago, go ahead and use as a "legacy race" starfinder boon or some variation of such.
This pretty much only benefits people that have been playing PFS for a while and decided to save a stack of boons for whatever reason. Outside of maintaining the same venture corps, it seems pretty clear that Starfinder Society is setup to be an independent venture from PFS, which it should be as there's an entirely new audience that has never played Pathfinder interested in Starfinder.

I played the Quests at GenCon slot 1, and my table was with five other players, none of which had a PFS number.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Society Developer

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Hey folks!

As mentioned, we're aiming to get Legacy Races out to players initially via the Regional Support Package boon (get talking to your local VOs about getting this in your area). Obviously, there's a lot of desire to play legacy races, and the Organized Play team will be monitoring the situation to see how it develops and if we need to introduce other vectors for people acquiring this boon.

Given how Starfinder is an entirely new system, we (Org Play) deemed it prudent to try to focus on the core races at launch, just in-case internal play testing missed something that would develop into "Space Halflings break the game ZOMG!!!!". As we get more relevant data from people running and reporting games with the core races, we'll be looking at opening things up in this regard.

Anyways, continue with the conversation! I'm already seeing a lot of interesting ideas coming out of this thread.

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As always extremely worried about the halflings, can't trust those guys ^^

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My ysoki technomacer won't feel to small when he saw halfing and gnome adventurer.

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While I do have a neat idea for an Elf, I am more than content to play the Starfinder core races for awhile first :)

...who I may or may not already have 5 of...no, I don't have a problem...I can stop any time I want...

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I already have three... somehow... though two of them probably won't see play until a second or third season worth of repeatables come down.


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Thurston Hillman wrote:
"Space Halflings break the game ZOMG!!!!"

Let's face it, we all knew that was how the apocalypse was going to happen.

Grand Lodge 5/5

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Hey, as long as We Be Space Goblins is going to be a thing, I'm good.

BTW, make We Be Space Goblins a thing. I might have even statted Space Poog...

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thecursor wrote:
Thurston Hillman wrote:
"Space Halflings break the game ZOMG!!!!"
Let's face it, we all knew that was how the apocalypse was going to happen.

I don't know. I prefer to blame gnomes. For everything. They are my space scape-goats. Does that make them space-goats?

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 Venture-Agent, Georgia—Atlanta aka The Masked Ferret

Freedom Snake wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Thurston Hillman wrote:
"Space Halflings break the game ZOMG!!!!"
Let's face it, we all knew that was how the apocalypse was going to happen.
I don't know. I prefer to blame gnomes. For everything. They are my space scape-goats. Does that make them space-goats?

That joke makes gnomes maaaad.


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My goodness... I did not expect this thread to gain as much traction as it did for a new Organised Play GM.....

Anyway, I am sure I'm not the only one looking forward to playing a Goblin Mechanic keeping everything together with tape and string.

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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

We've been waiting for the PFS Regional Support Package boon in my area for months to no avail are they going to be more forth coming now that the big cons are over and starfinder is out?


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Gajavi wrote:

My goodness... I did not expect this thread to gain as much traction as it did for a new Organised Play GM.....

Anyway, I am sure I'm not the only one looking forward to playing a Goblin Mechanic keeping everything together with tape and string.

Goblin mechanic? Unlikely in organized play. Crazed Gnome Bleachling or Greedy Tengu who wants all the shinies? Much more likely.

Scarab Sages 2/5 5/5

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Freedom Snake wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Thurston Hillman wrote:
"Space Halflings break the game ZOMG!!!!"
Let's face it, we all knew that was how the apocalypse was going to happen.
I don't know. I prefer to blame gnomes. For everything. They are my space scape-goats. Does that make them space-goats?

Space-goats coast to coast.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Captain, Netherlands aka Woran

Gamerskum wrote:
We've been waiting for the PFS Regional Support Package boon in my area for months to no avail are they going to be more forth coming now that the big cons are over and starfinder is out?

I dont know who the 'they' are you are referring to, but your local venture officers are responsible for rolling out the boon program locally. Contact the venture agent for your location. Or if you dont have a venture agent, you venture leutenant or captain.

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