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Obvious troll is obvious. Just ignore them.


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I'm not linking to a post that's obviously gonna get deleted. Needless to say, he said some dumb stuff.

Ignoring the misspellings this guy's post, The whole company changed their logo to a rainbow in June. I think we're way past the point where the view of this poster is representative of the average Paizo customer or developer. Representation in RPG of homosexual and transgender characters is the new normal. Get used it.


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The great irony is that there is a very good chance the renewed activity will get people posting in this thread again, thus undoing whatever small victory the troll has achieved.

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Probably so!

I'm still trying to figure out what label this PC would be; an AFAB character who drank a serum of sex shift to change her primary sexual traits and leave her secondary ones as is. That doesn't seem cis, but since she still goes by she/her, I'm not sure if it's trans either, and she's definitely firmly on one side of the binary...

Guess "you'd have to ask her" would be the way to do it!

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Pyksi Syfer wrote:

Probably so!

I'm still trying to figure out what label this PC would be; an AFAB character who drank a serum of sex shift to change her primary sexual traits and leave her secondary ones as is. That doesn't seem cis, but since she still goes by she/her, I'm not sure if it's trans either, and she's definitely firmly on one side of the binary...

Guess "you'd have to ask her" would be the way to do it!

Its possible that various forms of this kind of. . . I guess "voluntarily intersex"? . . . status might take over the word 'trans' in this setting or a similar one. After all, the medical technology and magic is such that the real world form of transgender should be readily identifiable and treatable with biological sex transformation indistinguishable from having been born with the "correct" body to match your neurological sex.

At which point. . . well, its also a setting with countless species, who don't only have radically different concepts of gender express and sexual dimorphism, but who quite often don't even have two genders. I kind of have a hard time imagining that "I was born with the wrong body, but it got fixed at age 6" being a thing that would bother anybody in nearly all cases.


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Just wanted to chime in with how happy I am with where lashunta wound up compared to their iffy presentation in Pathfinder, and that those changes are called out explicitly as the work of in-setting activists, rather than just retcons.


Agreed. Lashunta in pathfinder were eye rolling for most of my group, myself included. An outdated cliche, that starfinder dug into and salvage in a big way, to the point that my favourite SFS character is one.


I do like their more insectoid appearance as well.


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Metaphysician wrote:

Its possible that various forms of this kind of. . . I guess "voluntarily intersex"? . . . status might take over the word 'trans' in this setting or a similar one. After all, the medical technology and magic is such that the real world form of transgender should be readily identifiable and treatable with biological sex transformation indistinguishable from having been born with the "correct" body to match your neurological sex.

At which point. . . well, its also a setting with countless species, who don't only have radically different concepts of gender express and sexual dimorphism, but who quite often don't even have two genders. I kind of have a hard time imagining that "I was born with the wrong body, but it got fixed at age 6" being a thing that would bother anybody in nearly all cases.

And with linguistic differences on top of that, I suspect that you'd have a popularization of neutral pronoun usage as the widespread default with specific forms of address used on request.


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Squeekr. The dating app for ysoki with a few minutes to spare.


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Justin-Norveg wrote:

Squeekr. The dating app for ysoki with a few minutes to spare.

There's a joke in there about storing 1.9 bulk in their cheek pouches, but it might not be appropriate for these boards. :)


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Samantha DeWinter wrote:
Metaphysician wrote:

Its possible that various forms of this kind of. . . I guess "voluntarily intersex"? . . . status might take over the word 'trans' in this setting or a similar one. After all, the medical technology and magic is such that the real world form of transgender should be readily identifiable and treatable with biological sex transformation indistinguishable from having been born with the "correct" body to match your neurological sex.

At which point. . . well, its also a setting with countless species, who don't only have radically different concepts of gender express and sexual dimorphism, but who quite often don't even have two genders. I kind of have a hard time imagining that "I was born with the wrong body, but it got fixed at age 6" being a thing that would bother anybody in nearly all cases.

And with linguistic differences on top of that, I suspect that you'd have a popularization of neutral pronoun usage as the widespread default with specific forms of address used on request.

My favorite sci-fi series uses xe/xyr as the default, with it being understood that you use those for everyone until told otherwise.


HWalsh wrote:

In a future where people can change their biology at will, where people can change their physical appearance at will, and where there are aliens of all shapes and sizes, the universe would be much more open to any coupling simply because of the ambiguity factor.

Basically put... Biology doesn't matter when one can simply take a swig of a $400 potion and change it... And while $400 isn't exactly chump change, in the grand scheme of things it is cheaper than a crummy laptop.

There would be less homophobia, because sex doesn't mean anything, for the wealthy it is easier to change what they look like as easily as they change pants.

Although we could hope so, I don't think it's necessarily as simple as this. Just because the Serum of Sex Shift is relatively cheap, doesn't mean there would be no stigma attached to it. Consider cross-dressing: it's cheap, accessible, and relatively easy, yet there's a large stigma attached to the practice in many real-life cultures.

I think the cultural lack of stigma in the Pact Worlds would have more to do with tolerance, than with the relatively easy access to gender-affirming morphological changes.

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