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I am looking for any and all Pathfinder(non-Starfinder) news coming out of Gen Con.

So far we know about...

Planar Adventures

New Runelords AP

There was a hour long talk about Ultimate Wilderness yesterday, does anyone know anything more about that?

Any other news/information?


I'm really anxious to know if we are getting any new npc books next year (be it for pathfinder or for starfinder).


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The Gold Sovereign wrote:
I'm really anxious to know if we are getting any new npc books next year (be it for pathfinder or for starfinder).

Agreed, that's something that needs to carry over into Starfinder. I use the crap out of Monster Codex/Villian Codex!


The "Paizo 2017 and Beyond" should have ended a couple hours ago, I hope someone will post some info about it.

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Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.


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So, Campaign Setting and Player Companion lines reduced to six books per year each, probably alternating.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.

Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)


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See what I noted above. Also Starfinder line is going for a full reprint.

Alien Archive books planned yearly.

Pathfinder rulebook pocked editions coming for all books eventually.

Starfinder Core Rulebook pocket edition planned, but waiting for errata.

We Be Goblins 5 is coming


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)

Just the Pathfinder stuff, paraphrased from the facebook thread:

  • Book of the Damned: Collects original 3 books and adds info for outsiders not previously covered. Each Demon Lord gets a full spread. Orcus is in there.
  • ACG: Monthly decks continuing. Rethinking the base sets, which were too big and hard to stock at retail. Will introduce a new 'evergreen' base set, which may evolve over time. Decks for Occult and evil iconics on the way.
  • Pocket editions of ALL hardcover books will be printed, new books every few months.
  • War for the Crown AP after Ruins of Azlant.
    Spoiler:
    Taldor's prince dies, intrigue heavy, PCs try to put princess on throne.

  • Return of the Runelords.
    Spoiler:
    5 Runelords 'come home to roost'.

  • Player Companion and Campaign Setting lines will stagger monthly, 6 a year each. Slowing down the line, 107 published so far.
  • Kingmaker PC game targeting summer/fall 2018.
  • Ultimate wilderness: Not many rules for wilderness before, despite it being big part of game. Shifter class is to Druid what the Paladin is to the Cleric. 3 new PC races: Wyrewood, Goren, Leshi. Rules for foraging, hexploration, big section on animal companions and familiars. Nature spells and gear.
  • Planar Adventures: "Skin book. Overlay your campaign and make the campaign about planes." Rules for locations. Player options include how the plane modifies you through "Infusions". Story feat mechanic: e.g. spend weeks on plane of fire and maybe get fire resistance. Lots of new and low level ways to reach planes. Planar keystones take you to specific point on plane... but not back again.
  • Next minis set is Maze of Death. Has minotaurs. Case incentive is four huge elementals, sold across two packs.
  • We be Goblins 5 is happening.

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Thank God for the product line slowdown. The latest round of Player Companion announcements have been seriously underwhelming, and the Campaign Setting isn't doing a whole lot better.


Kalindlara wrote:
Thank God for the product line slowdown. The latest round of Player Companion announcements have been seriously underwhelming, and the Campaign Setting isn't doing a whole lot better.

Indeed... u.u'


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So basically no new info on Ultimate Wilderness:(

Only six player companion and campaign setting books a year:( That is especially sad to hear about the campaign setting books.

Skin book?


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shadram wrote:
  • Player Companion and Campaign Setting lines will stagger monthly, 6 a year each. Slowing down the line, 107 published so far.
  • Hmm...I might actually be able to resubscribe to the two lines.


    So Planar Adventures was the only Pathfinder hardcover book announced?

    Did they talk about the new planetouched races at all?


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    Kalindlara wrote:
    Thank God for the product line slowdown. The latest round of Player Companion announcements have been seriously underwhelming, and the Campaign Setting isn't doing a whole lot better.

    Im happy to see fewer Player Companions (the only line I don't subscribe to but pick up on a case by case basis). I don't share that view of the campaign setting books though - I can't remember one of them I didn't love. By far my favourite - 6 a year is very disappointing (although I presume/hope that doesn't include the two map folios. Anyone know the answer to that?)


    shadram wrote:
    Steve Geddes wrote:
    Gorbacz wrote:
    Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
    Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)

    Just the Pathfinder stuff, paraphrased from the facebook thread:

    • Book of the Damned: Collects original 3 books and adds info for outsiders not previously covered. Each Demon Lord gets a full spread. Orcus is in there.
    • ACG: Monthly decks continuing. Rethinking the base sets, which were too big and hard to stock at retail. Will introduce a new 'evergreen' base set, which may evolve over time. Decks for Occult and evil iconics on the way.
    • Pocket editions of ALL hardcover books will be printed, new books every few months.
    • War for the Crown AP after Ruins of Azlant. ** spoiler omitted **
    • Return of the Runelords. ** spoiler omitted **
    • Player Companion and Campaign Setting lines will stagger monthly, 6 a year each. Slowing down the line, 107 published so far.
    • Kingmaker PC game targeting summer/fall 2018.
    • Ultimate wilderness: Not many rules for wilderness before, despite it being big part of game. Shifter class is to Druid what the Paladin is to the Cleric. 3 new PC races: Wyrewood, Goren, Leshi. Rules for foraging, hexploration, big section on animal companions and familiars. Nature spells and gear.
    • Planar Adventures: "Skin book. Overlay your campaign and make the campaign about planes." Rules for locations. Player options include how the plane modifies you through "Infusions". Story feat mechanic: e.g. spend weeks on plane of fire and maybe get fire resistance. Lots of new and low level ways to reach planes. Planar keystones take you to specific point on plane... but not back again.
    • Next minis set is Maze of Death. Has minotaurs. Case incentive is four huge elementals, sold across two packs.
    • We be Goblins 5 is happening.
    Zaister wrote:

    See what I noted above. Also Starfinder line is going for a full reprint.

    Alien Archive books planned yearly.

    Pathfinder rulebook pocked editions coming for all books eventually.

    Starfinder Core Rulebook pocket edition planned, but waiting for errata.

    We Be Goblins 5 is coming

    Thank you both.

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    Steve Geddes wrote:
    I don't share that view of the campaign setting books though - I can't remember one of them I didn't love.

    They're all right... usually. But there's a few that just don't interest me in the slightest. The "X of the Inner Sea" (ships, towns, taverns, etc.) are one example of this.

    And I've never had much use for the map folios. I can use the maps in the regular books for that. I use minis-scale maps like the Flip-Mats.


    Kalindlara wrote:
    And I've never had much use for the map folios. I can use the maps in the regular books for that. I use minis-scale maps like the Flip-Mats.

    You're not alone there. I always get two of them, but it does seem like there's a significant number of fans who cancel-and-resubscribe each time they roll around.


    Any word about the next SF AP? I know it won't happen for a year, but then RotR Vol.2 won't either and we just got the announcement


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    Dragon78 wrote:
    Skin book?

    Uh what?

    Silver Crusade

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    Steve Geddes wrote:
    Gorbacz wrote:
    Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
    Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)

    Hey Steve, don't browbeat yourself. You're not stuck in the 80s...

    *opens a can of beer, dons his best s-eating grin*

    ... it's more like mid 90s.


    shadram wrote:
    Steve Geddes wrote:
    Gorbacz wrote:
    Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
    Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)
  • Next minis set is Maze of Death. Has minotaurs. Case incentive is four huge elementals, sold across two packs.
  • Can anyone who attended clarify what is meant by "sold across two packs?" Specifically does one case yield all four elementals?

    Dark Archive

    JLant wrote:
    shadram wrote:
    Steve Geddes wrote:
    Gorbacz wrote:
    Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
    Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)
  • Next minis set is Maze of Death. Has minotaurs. Case incentive is four huge elementals, sold across two packs.
  • Can anyone who attended clarify what is meant by "sold across two packs?" Specifically does one case yield all four elementals?

    It has been said before, that the case incentive of "Maze of Death" will include 2 huge elementals: Huge Air Elemental & Huge Water Elemental.

    It has also been said, that the other two huge elementals will be in another case incentive, but not in which.
    It will either be in the next set or in the one after that.

    Of course that may have changed...


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    Kalindlara wrote:
    And I've never had much use for the map folios. I can use the maps in the regular books for that. I use minis-scale maps like the Flip-Mats.

    Oh. Yeah. The map folios. Yeah, I hope they don't count toward the 6 releases each year.

    Silver Crusade Contributor

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    Marco Massoudi wrote:
    Of course that may have changed...

    Maybe they decided to get them all out of the way at once, so we could start having interesting case incentives again.


    So, regarding pathfinder books, there are only two new announcements: Planar Adventures and Re:otR, or did I miss something?

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    Heine Stick wrote:
    Kalindlara wrote:
    And I've never had much use for the map folios. I can use the maps in the regular books for that. I use minis-scale maps like the Flip-Mats.
    Oh. Yeah. The map folios. Yeah, I hope they don't count toward the 6 releases each year.

    Yeah add me to the not a fan of the maps being part of the setting line camp.


    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Any word about the next SF AP? I know it won't happen for a year, but then RotR Vol.2 won't either and we just got the announcement

    anyone?


    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Any word about the next SF AP? I know it won't happen for a year, but then RotR Vol.2 won't either and we just got the announcement
    anyone?

    No word.


    Heine Stick wrote:
    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Any word about the next SF AP? I know it won't happen for a year, but then RotR Vol.2 won't either and we just got the announcement
    anyone?
    No word.

    thanks

    Dark Archive

    Kalindlara wrote:
    Marco Massoudi wrote:
    Of course that may have changed...
    Maybe they decided to get them all out of the way at once, so we could start having interesting case incentives again.

    I'd like that.

    But these things are really big (the large ones in Shattered Star were huge already) and i can't imagine that they'd do four for $50.

    Otherwise i agree, as the D&D Earth Titan, Huge Fire Elemental & Thunderblast Cyclone make for good stand-ins, only the Huge Water Elemental really interests me.

    I'd also like weird creatures in huge or gargantuan size again, scenery only if it's something like a ship or wizards tower.

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    Yeah, I'm not really enthused with the "box of pieces" approach to dungeon dressing case incentives.

    Liberty's Edge

    Mr. Jacobs said he was developing something that would be announced in the con (in adition to ReotRL). What was it?


    Paladinosaur wrote:
    Mr. Jacobs said he was developing something that would be announced in the con (in adition to ReotRL). What was it?

    I assumed it to be the Planar Adventures book... As there were no other announcements.


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    Zaister wrote:
    Dragon78 wrote:
    Skin book?
    Uh what?

    No idea either. I quoted that directly from the Facebook post, hoping someone else could shed some light...


    Well, a Skin book should be a genre book to go over the basic rules (the meat and bones). I would take this to mean that the Planar Adventures might well be designed to work with both Pathfinder and Starfinder, and, to a lesser extent, other D20 genres.

    I could be wrong though, I so often am.


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    Daw wrote:

    Well, a Skin book should be a genre book to go over the basic rules (the meat and bones). I would take this to mean that the Planar Adventures might well be designed to work with both Pathfinder and Starfinder, and, to a lesser extent, other D20 genres.

    I could be wrong though, I so often am.

    I sincerely hope you are wrong, and the book is mainly centered on Pathfinder... :\

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    Marco Massoudi wrote:
    JLant wrote:
    shadram wrote:

    Next minis set is Maze of Death. Has minotaurs. Case incentive is four huge elementals, sold across two packs.

    Can anyone who attended clarify what is meant by "sold across two packs?" Specifically does one case yield all four elementals?

    It has been said before, that the case incentive of "Maze of Death" will include 2 huge elementals: Huge Air Elemental & Huge Water Elemental.

    It has also been said, that the other two huge elementals will be in another case incentive, but not in which.
    It will either be in the next set or in the one after that.

    Of course that may have changed...

    I believe that's still correct: A pair of elementals with this set, and a pair with a future set.

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    Bleh.

    That said: thank you for the information, sir.


    Daw, I also hope you are wrong.


    Gorbacz wrote:
    Steve Geddes wrote:
    Gorbacz wrote:
    Know Direction has the gist of updates from that seminar on their Facebook page.
    Any chance someone could post a list? (For those of us still living in the 80s?)

    Hey Steve, don't browbeat yourself. You're not stuck in the 80s...

    *opens a can of beer, dons his best s-eating grin*

    ... it's more like mid 90s.

    Flagged for accuracy.


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    Daw wrote:
    Well, a Skin book should be a genre book to go over the basic rules (the meat and bones).

    Or, it could be a book made out of skin.

    Like the Necronomicon.


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    Cthulhudrew wrote:
    Daw wrote:
    Well, a Skin book should be a genre book to go over the basic rules (the meat and bones).

    Or, it could be a book made out of skin.

    Like the Necronomicon.

    If that's the case, I dread to think what Book of the Damned will be printed on...


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    shadram wrote:
    Cthulhudrew wrote:
    Daw wrote:
    Well, a Skin book should be a genre book to go over the basic rules (the meat and bones).

    Or, it could be a book made out of skin.

    Like the Necronomicon.

    If that's the case, I dread to think what Book of the Damned will be printed on...

    Recycled political posters.

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    Heine Stick wrote:
    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Hythlodeus wrote:
    Any word about the next SF AP? I know it won't happen for a year, but then RotR Vol.2 won't either and we just got the announcement
    anyone?
    No word.

    I wouldn't expect anything about that before PaizoCon. :)


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    You have my vote for hoping the Matt Folio is not part of the line. I like the CS line but always have to cancel then resubscribe when that comes about. It's going to truly suck if the Matt folios make up 2 of those 6 campaign setting "books" we are going to get in a year.

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    Here's to hoping they make more announcements at PAX Unplugged.

    Dark Archive

    I also would like 6 Campaign Setting books per year (plus 2 map folios), preferably at least 2 about one of the yet not covered Inner Sea realms.

    I also applaud the reduction of the Player Companion line to six books, because both themes and editing frankly were bad lately.

    Did anyone see or hear something new about Pathfinder Battles or Starfinder miniatures?


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    That's disappointing. I had been hoping for a Dominion of the Black AP, instead of another Runelords AP, given the clocks in Osirion are supposed to run out in AR 4718. Sigh.

    Planar Adventures sounds promising, though.


    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but... What do they mean by "Starfinder is going for a full reprint"?

    Does it means more volumes of the books already printed, or that they are covering things that were published in Pathfinder?

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