Who can use bows?


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Scarab Sages

Which class is proficient in bows and can operatives trick attack with them?


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No class is proficient with bows, though anyone can take the "Special Weapon Proficiency" feat to be as long as they otherwise meet the (easy) prerequisites. As they are ranged weapons that are not small arms, they cannot be used with Operative Trick Attack.

Scarab Sages

Doesn't that make them just a bad weapon, especially because they can't be upgraded.


Yep, they're worthless. To make matters worse Elves are no longer automatically proficient but for some reason Dwarves get proficiency with basic and advanced melee weapons and get automatic specialization with them too.

Scarab Sages

They can shoot grenade arrows much earlier than you can get access to grenade launchers, but yeah, they're not good at all at high levels. I'm hoping that there will be higher level arrows in later books that make them useful.


Only benefit is free action reload (move action to reload other guns).


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sunderedhero wrote:
Yep, they're worthless. To make matters worse Elves are no longer automatically proficient but for some reason Dwarves get proficiency with basic and advanced melee weapons and get automatic specialization with them too.

I think the reason is to make up for Dwarves being by far the slowest race in Starfinder.


Do bows no longer have compositing or are all bows now composite. If so, they might be worth a feat for melee soldiers who want to stack up damage in the early levels, then at later levels it gets used to launch grenades...

Scarab Sages

technarken wrote:
Do bows no longer have compositing or are all bows now composite. If so, they might be worth a feat for melee soldiers who want to stack up damage in the early levels, then at later levels it gets used to launch grenades...

Nope, no str to damage on bows. It's a piddly d6 damage at 60 feet.


Nice to know that thousands of years of R&D have actively made the bow worse than it was in the hands of primitives.


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It is a matter of priorities. Making bows non-archaic (and thus eliminating the -5 damage loss) is better for most people than modifying them to apply the user's Str bonus to damage.

And some old techniques do fall into disuse. Does anyone have any idea where I could get my hands on an atlatl?

Scarab Sages

David knott 242 wrote:

It is a matter of priorities. Making bows non-archaic (and thus eliminating the -5 damage loss) is better for most people than modifying them to apply the user's Str bonus to damage.

And some old techniques do fall into disuse. Does anyone have any idea where I could get my hands on an atlatl?

I had some in junior high school PE classes, and I also used one at a Boy Scout jamboree. I live in Florida, and there was an effort to teach us about the local timucuan tribes, including how to use the atlatl and using dugout canoes.

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