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Mystic_Snowfang wrote:
tonyz wrote:

My characters are generally monosexually attracted to the opposite sex. One or two have been asexual, or maybe just haven't found anybody there's interested in. And then there was the priestess of Lamashtu in Skull and Shackles, who had ... interesting dreams about krakens.

Our table generally does "romantic attraction exists and can be engaged in; details are usually fade-to-black."

Yeah at the table we've got that rule too.

Of course I'm going to be MARRYING the GM in a couple of months, so yeah there is that.

Isn't that taking that whole role playing thingie too far?

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I tend to factor in my character's sexuality as part of the creation process. Whether or not sex will feature heavily in a campaign or not I tend to think that sexuality is an important part of a person's identity in whatever shape it takes. I've played characters that are straight, gay, bi, and asexual, one character that was transgender, along with characters that span the spectrum from monogamous to polyamorous.

I like to consider questions such as "are they still figuring themselves out or do they have a firm grasp of what they are?"

If they have figured themselves out is it something they always knew or did they struggle with it or experiment when they were younger?

Is their sexuality something that was accepted, discouraged, encouraged, discriminated against, persecuted, prosecuted, met with apathy? In their family, in their home, in their town, in their nation, among their race/culture, by their religion, by any organizations they may have belonged to?

Do all of these line up in their view on the subject or do they conflict with each other? Does the character feel torn by that conflict or do they pick one view and embrace it?

These are all things I feel the need to at least consider when creating a character. It isn't to say I don't leave any room for growth and change as the campaign progresses but it does help me to have a rough idea of where the character is coming from in this regard for me to consider how they'll react to certain things.


Well... I am the GM for my couple, my couple is my GM and we also play some solo campaigns. So even in group play sexuality is faded to black, in group campaigns or in... side private scenes in group campaigns it isn't.
Many advantages on dating your GM/ one of your players.

As for NPCs, I have created some very bigoted characters! Not everybody has to be likeable.

The most funny fact was the very intolerant female wizard that I created and when she was used by my GM on Reign of Winter spent the whole campaign being rude and mean to my own character (with my consent) as she was biased against witches and against homosexual relationships.


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Kileanna wrote:

As for NPCs, I have created some very bigoted characters! Not everybody has to be likeable.

I've played some very bigoted characters as a player, but I find one must be very careful not to take it too far and ruin the fun/atmosphere for the rest of the group. Definitely something worth talking out with the table before starting!


Well, I do it because I really know all my players and I know how far I can take things.
Also, it depends on how you roleplay it. On an enemy who insults a PC and gets beaten his ass for it, it usually works. On an allied/neutral NPC it has to be handled with care.

In this case I gave my consent to the GM to play this character as she is, and it was also a realisation sensation when this NPC was pushed aside by some of her allies because some things she did.

What I avoid doing is playing a bigoted character and pretend everything is OK. I'd be giving the wrong message to the people at the table.


I played a character that appeared to be very liberal once and accepting, she was a sylph born to a family of elves, she was totally sexually liberal, didn't have the dwarf thing or the elf arrogance going on, on the whole, she wasn't that smart and knew it for one thing.

So you can imagine my tables surprise when she turned out to have vehement and passionate hatred for half elves. She'd picked up the habit of calling them half breeds from kids in the town she came from but he real hatred came from being friends with some of them who'd felt the same isolation she felt (being a Sylph) and when they moved on she felt abandoned and became venomous and bitter. (totally nothing to do with the amount of bored I feel when someone says they're going to be a half elf whose an outsider edge edge)

It all came out when she lost a dance contest to one (she rolled a 4 .-. she so easily could have won) and her bitterness all came rushing out.

On the subject of sexuality, she ended up marrying a war-priest of Sarenrea who was trying to teach her forgiveness. She wasn't the best at mercy. We tended to wake up in bed next to eachother after being in taverns, she I suppose basically a fade to black.

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Kileanna wrote:

Well, I do it because I really know all my players and I know how far I can take things.

Also, it depends on how you roleplay it. On an enemy who insults a PC and gets beaten his ass for it, it usually works. On an allied/neutral NPC it has to be handled with care.

In this case I gave my consent to the GM to play this character as she is, and it was also a realisation sensation when this NPC was pushed aside by some of her allies because some things she did.

What I avoid doing is playing a bigoted character and pretend everything is OK. I'd be giving the wrong message to the people at the table.

*nods*

Bigoted baddies can be tons of fun. It feels even BETTER to kick their asses.
My Fiance ran Plugg and Scourge from Skulls and Shackles as really nasty bigots (and many other darker things). Made killing them and hopefully turning them into duppies even MORE fun. (Apparently, Giffer buried them alive, WITH quieting needles in their vitals... while alive)


I play primarily hetero characters because my 1st character was a 2nd ed. Human fighter who had earned a keep and an army. He carved this into a small kingdom and the issue of inheritence weighed on him. He fell in love with and married the party preist. His daughter was my second character and a magic user. She too earned her mage tower and she too wanted an heir so she married her 1st apprentice and on again off again lover. Then i played her son, a theif. I keep trying to this day to recapture that magic of playing through a whole family tree.

This is because I cant really have my own children irl, and playing that out makes me happy :)


I've role'd pretty much everything possible to both the delight and horror of my fellow players. still can't get over their reactions to my summoner.:P At least I wasn't the "worst" at that point. >.> (looks to former druid buddy[still buddy though]) that was a very poorly executed campaign, wasn't even all that fun... just kinda stupid. 'n'

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Jae Wolftail wrote:
I've role'd pretty much everything possible to both the delight and horror of my fellow players. still can't get over their reactions to my summoner.:P At least I wasn't the "worst" at that point. >.> (looks to former druid buddy[still buddy though]) that was a very poorly executed campaign, wasn't even all that fun... just kinda stupid. 'n'

O_O

Most interesting things have gotten in my stories is an NPC who was married to a Gryphon.


Mystic_Snowfang wrote:
Kileanna wrote:

Well, I do it because I really know all my players and I know how far I can take things.

Also, it depends on how you roleplay it. On an enemy who insults a PC and gets beaten his ass for it, it usually works. On an allied/neutral NPC it has to be handled with care.

In this case I gave my consent to the GM to play this character as she is, and it was also a realisation sensation when this NPC was pushed aside by some of her allies because some things she did.

What I avoid doing is playing a bigoted character and pretend everything is OK. I'd be giving the wrong message to the people at the table.

*nods*

Bigoted baddies can be tons of fun. It feels even BETTER to kick their asses.
My Fiance ran Plugg and Scourge from Skulls and Shackles as really nasty bigots (and many other darker things). Made killing them and hopefully turning them into duppies even MORE fun. (Apparently, Giffer buried them alive, WITH quieting needles in their vitals... while alive)

Our Plugg was the one who "made a pass" on Sandara, not Scourge (a mistake that I decided not to correct). Kiani (a very liberal female undine) and Sandara loved flaunting their relationship in front of him to piss him off.

Also, I played The Assasin Giles Halmis as a real assassinhole

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They healed the assasin to interrogate him after that. His name was Giles Halmis and he was a... very nice man. Even though it was Kiani who was carrying the weight of the conversation he kept addressing Darren all the time and ignoring Kiani to the point of making everybody feel uncomfortable. He confessed everything without concern, seeing himself as innocent: he had been only hired by Zarskia Galembar (to which he referred to as simply «the black woman») to assasinate three people. He was just doing his job. He had kept the note just in case he had to defend himself and prove that he was only doing his job.

In a few sentences, all the party already hated this man. Kiani couldn't understand anything, as she had always been accepted among humans despite being an Undine. She had a draconian, a minotaur, a gnome, a half kender, half elves, a dwarf, humans of all shapes and colors, and now a tengu on her crew and nobody seemed to have an issue with that (aside from the incident with the half elves that Kiani thought as a big misunderstanding). So when Kiani asked him about what was so wrong about working for a «black woman» as he called Zarskia (and he said «black» as it was some sort of highly infective disease) he answered in a totally sincere and guiltless way that black people where known for not caring about anything else than money and weren't to be trusted.
«How insightful, coming from a mercenary!» laughed Sandara.

Trying to defend his position and saying everything as they were known facts he ended offending most of the party: Corlan was almost an animal, Fox looked like a ragged shirtless pirate (Fox thought that taking off the «ragged» part it was an accurate description of himself), Sandara could have been pretty but her tattoos made her look like a whore, Isabella and Kiani weren't to blame for going around half naked as everybody knew Nordmaarians (Isabella's people) were savages without a culture that only knew how to ride horses, and he didn't even know what kind of thing Kiani was.
«Blue. I am blue.» was Kiani's only answer, getting tired of her friends being insulted by this man. «And the captain of the Mustakrakish.»
«What if I introduce him to Grinner?» asked Isabella with a jagged playful smile. «He loves everybody equally disregarding of their race. And he likes kisses.»
«Good.» smiled Kiani. «Then we should take him to Tessa.» She looked at Gilles «Tessa Fairwind. Do you know her? She's a half elf and the next Hurricane Queen. What do you think of that?»

Gilles shrugged.

«Nothing at all. You're probably going to have a lot of sunken ships if that happens.»
«Probably. But they will be the ships of our enemies.» sentenced Sandara.

Gilles was taken to the Mustakrakish, and until the end he was confident that he would get out of it unharmed. Tessa would probably spare him because he was innocent. That was before he met Grinner. As Isabella said, Grinner loved «kisses». Kiani aggreed that Isabella took Gilles as a toy until they got to Sea Reach as long as she didn't kill him. In the next days, Isabella went to Sandara quite a few times asking her for emergency healing and when they handed the assassin to Tessa his face was far from recognisable. His fate after that is unknown, but knowing his diplomatic abilities it can be guessed that Tessa disposed of him after being offended in at least five different ways.


it really depends on the group and the character we tend to avoid that side of things dm learned to stop even attempting to have npcs try to hook up with my pc's cuz most of them end with my character putting a greatsword through some one or in super awkward situations.


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I usually think about it, though many of our campaigns we're too busy to spend much time exercising it. Once or twice I've been surprised that a character has changed over the course of time. I also find that some of my characters are interested in things that hold no interest for me as a player.

Another issue that comes up in game but not the real world is what species are they attracted to? for some it's only those they can breed with, for others...

Among my characters are:


  • An elf woman, raised entirely by humans, who is only interested in androids. Specifically empathic androids. Of either gender.
  • An 18 year old hetero female superhero who's led a sheltered life as the children of superheroes. She's often been told that relationships don't work between supers and civilians, which severely limits her dating pool.
  • A reformed supervillain who has assimilated the memories of a whole city. He used to be straight, but finds that he's now much more flexible.
  • A magical carboard box who is agender and asexual. Though he lets other toys step inside of him.
  • A teenager who grew up in a warring hell dimension with only her parents around. She's been told about sex, but she hasn't met anybody that wasn't related to her or trying to kill her. Since she never got a chance to play out, I don't know what way she swings yet.
  • A living construct of a faerie dragon designed as a cute shoulder pet for rich people. He's submissive to the wants and desires of people nearby to a disturbing degree. He could be talked into just about anything. It's good that he has fast healing.
  • A male human who was turned into a tiefling through pain rituals. His magic is pain based. He doesn't respond to anything most extreme experiences now. (Yes, he's basically a cenobite)
  • An 18 year old superhero raised by lesbian parents. He's heterosexual, but he feels a little ashamed that he's not open to more experiences. He's just met an interesting woman who is hiding the fact that she's over 100 years old. Even her physical age is probably bit too old for him.
  • A male dwarf who doesn't have time for relationships. All his free time he spends crafting items. He does have a tumor familiar though. His spleen-monkey doesn't talk much.
  • A heterosexual female elf who is in mourning for her dead human husband. She's not ready for a new mate. Maybe in a decade or so she'll start looking. In the meantime, she is adventuring with her half-elven son.
  • A male who has been turned into a pile of acidic and poisonous goo. He's still heterosexual, but he despairs at ever finding somebody.
  • A modern-day female who was features on a third-rate cable reality show. She's attracted a stalker who is still at large. This has freaked her the hell out and she's too paranoid to start a relationship now.
  • A gay male drow noble (I used the feat chain to reveal his nobility over time). He is being pursued by a drow matriarch that wants to add him to her harem. He fell into a bit of a stereotype over play. His best friend in the party is an android who is very neurotic over her hair being absolutely straight all the time. So he learned a little profession: stylist to help keep her calm. He has an unrequited crush on the elven gunslinger with no name.
  • A human barbarian who is the last of his clan and carries the ghosts of his dead tribe. Sometimes he's possessed by them. He's gotten a crush on a sylph rogue, and he wants to take it slow. But there's a lot of pressure on him to rebuild the tribe.

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I usually think about it, though many of our campaigns we're too busy to spend much time exercising it. Once or twice I've been surprised that a character has changed over the course of time. I also find that some of my characters are interested in things that hold no interest for me as a player.

Another issue that comes up in game but not the real world is what species are they attracted to? for some it's only those they can breed with, for others...

Among my characters are:


  • An elf woman, raised entirely by humans, who is only interested in androids. Specifically empathic androids. Of either gender.
  • An 18 year old hetero female superhero who's led a sheltered life as the children of superheroes. She's often been told that relationships don't work between supers and civilians, which severely limits her dating pool.
  • A reformed supervillain who has assimilated the memories of a whole city. He used to be straight, but finds that he's now much more flexible.
  • A magical carboard box who is agender and asexual. Though he lets other toys step inside of him.
  • A teenager who grew up in a warring hell dimension with only her parents around. She's been told about sex, but she hasn't met anybody that wasn't related to her or trying to kill her. Since she never got a chance to play out, I don't know what way she swings yet.
  • A living construct of a faerie dragon designed as a cute shoulder pet for rich people. He's submissive to the wants and desires of people nearby to a disturbing degree. He could be talked into just about anything. It's good that he has fast healing.
  • A male human who was turned into a tiefling through pain rituals. His magic is pain based. He doesn't respond to anything most extreme experiences now. (Yes, he's basically a cenobite)
  • An 18 year old superhero raised by lesbian parents. He's heterosexual, but he feels a little ashamed that he's not open to more experiences. He's just met an interesting woman who is hiding the fact that
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Wow... crazy!

You deserve like 200000 internets.


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I'd say the majority of mine end up being bi, at least at first. (I play a roughly equal amount of male and female characters. Haven't done anyone non-binary as of yet.) Sometimes as they develop at the table, I'll figure out that they have different preferences than originally thought. Sometimes they surprise me, though, which is always fun.

Example: The male vigilante I'm playing right now was initially thought of as straight. He was originally an NPC in another campaign, and was the ex-fiance of one of my PCs (a woman) in that one. Fast-forward a couple in-game years, and he's a devotee of Arshea and has a serious thing for a male priest of Shelyn.

On the flip side, my inquisitor from my last game was someone I thought sure was going to end up with a dude, since that had been the majority of his relationships up to that point. Nope. He romanced the queen of Mendev. :-)

Most of my games at the moment are two-person ones with my partner, so we're comfortable spending more time on romance arcs than we would in a bigger group. In the bigger groups I've been in, romance/sex sometimes pops up, but we do a fade-to-black thing so it's not awkward for anyone.


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I'm with the "sex is something that goes on in the background, like going to the bathroom" school of thought. It just doesn't really come up in my games. We mostly just kill monsters and take their stuff.


Trinam wrote:
Real RPers determine sexuality by rolling d% at creation and comparing it to overall census rates to figure out where they land on the Kinsley Scale.

That's basically what I do for characters' gender. I just roll a d200 or an equivalent to decide their gender (or rather, their gender presentation most of the time). And if I forget what I rolled since I introduced the character, then I reroll and might get something different, resulting in a trans or genderfluid character.

For sexuality...I tend to make most characters aro ace. I don't really have confidence in my ability as a writer to portray anything else well.


I've had characters (both PCs and NPCs) of various sexualties over the years (and several game systems), but it was in a long-running Buffy/Angel game that I spent the most time exploring such things. Between the centrality of soap-opera romance stories to that setting, and the fact that one of our two GMs was loudly and proudly LGBT, that game was a very welcoming and safe place to role-play a very diverse spectrum of orientations and identities. Of my two primary characters in that game, one stayed very close to my own cis/het self (apart from a bit of gender-bending shenanigans when he acquired shapeshifting powers). The other discovered halfway through the campaign that she was bi rather than straight (to both her and my surprise!), and by the time we shelved the game for good, she identified as primarily lesbian.

I've only been playing Pathfinder for about 4 years (after a full decade with v.3.5). None of my current group identifies as LBGT, but it's something we pay attention to thanks to experience with friends who do. When I was developing my current homebrew world, I decided to work some queerness into my cosmology. The most blatant examples are the four faerie gods, who change gender and consorts with the seasons, which is reflected in the mortal world by elves and fey being more overtly fluid in their gender and sexuality than is common among other races.

In PFS, on the other hand, I usually avoid raising the subject of sexuality because I'm still not sure how comfortable the local crowd is with the subject (apart from one guy who announces at the beginning of each scenario that his macho half-orc is hitting on all the female PCs, but then--thankfully--rarely mentions it again during play). I'll play pregens as their established gender, and have a couple ideas "on the bench" for female PCs, but that's it so far.


I think I'm the only player in my group who actually tries to incorporate sexuality into his character when playing. But even then, it's more a case of "we share a room and we might need to pay off the innkeeper for destroying said room" after a night. (Clarification: The last time that happened, I was a half-orc paladin with STR 18 spending the night with an NPC Dragon Disciple girlfriend, also STR 18)

All in all, I play as heterosexual men. But when I'm GM, and I'm playing a module/ AP with character descriptions of "flirty", I easily turn bi. Guess I'm more open to roleplaying different sexualities when I have to manage all the NPCs who run the gamut of the spectrum.


I play a Eberron Changeling that is neither most of the time. I can assume a 'male sex', regardless of exterior appearance, or a female sex, also regardless of exterior appearance. Well, until a pregnancy is advanced. As yet, I have not really pursued either option (too young). Then again, spouses, romantic relationships, et all. are not the group focus, although there is a lot of bluebooking.


With the exception of one PC (not mine) in a game of WotR, the aspect of sexuality has not explicitly come up in either my own games or ones i play in.

It's not something i think of when making a PC. I think about their personality and quirks, but unless a situation actually presents itself where it is relevant, i don't give it much thought.

Although there was one time, where (when playing a shy single sorceress), the continuous innuendo of the Calistrian priestess PC had me thinking. After all she'd make remarks on many things to try and get the sorceress 'to explore'.

As a GM, i'd be fine if a PC says they want to try and seduce/flirt with an NPC (or if it's a thing between 2 PCs). I guess i'd have it go 'screen fades to black'. I mean, PCs deserve romantic interests too, right? Even makes rescue missions or 'help the town where they live in' missions more rewarding for them.

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You know I really like how you're all being mature adults here. It's... magical.


Mystic_Snowfang wrote:
You know I really like how you're all being mature adults here. It's... magical.

Law of Averages, I'd wager. Also, somebody has to be mature about the subject matter.


It is not a part of how I play my characters, or how I DM.

BUT -- My range of PC's over the years have, however, "set up" other PC's by "renting" the favors of a companion without them being aware.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.


As a GM, my NPCs are "whichever is easier in the current situation" with a few exceptions. My home game has two bi characters, one straight, and one asexual (he's a Warforged), and our other two characters have left so I need new ones. It works how it works.

As a player, they run the gamut. I usually default to heterosexual, but not always. On the boards I have three asexual characters—one of them an android in Pathfinder, the other a droid in Star Wars, and the last an unfettered eidolon—as well as a bisexual tiefling in Way of the Wicked, and two different lesbians in Savage Worlds games. One of them is in Victorian England so it hasn't come up, but it's who she is. The other is modern day and it's important to her story and who she is as a person. All my other characters are heterosexual, at least for now. Who knows? It rarely comes up, so who knows?


Unless my players say otherwise, I generally assume the PCs match their players' sexual preferences. Sex, sexuality, eroticism don't come up all that often. And when it does I usually try to follow my players' lead. Sometimes it leads to a semi-chaste romance (such as was growing between an arcane trickster and a certain succubus intent on redeeming herself) and sometimes it gets a little wilder (like the halfling cosplaying gigolo... seriously).


Doesn't really come up a whole lot in my group. When it pops up in an adventure path, anything sexual just fades-to-black.

Funny moment in Rise of the Runelord:

The DM swapped Aldern Foxglove's role to his sister, which had relations with a party member. This caused me to ask at a later point if that ghoul disease was transmitted sexually. That caused everyone to pause for a second, especially that character's player, and then the laughing began. Ah, good times.

When I GM, few NPCs will have any defined attractions. I mostly leave it up to the players to define that for me as things progress.

I haven't played many characters, but the previous character, a female half elf witch I played didn't find anyone special. The whole stop an ages old wizard from reclaiming his backyard thing was a little pressing though. Her explanation, all the smart guys she met were either too old or out to kill her. Khalib survived at the end, and followed us back to civilization, but that was the end of the campaign.

The current one, a human male vigilante just isn't ready for anything. He does enjoy some teasing banter with a flamboyant gay shopkeeper, but it's just for laughs. Playing with words is a lot of fun. :)

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Relationships are very common in campaigns I've played and run. However, sex is never the focus.

In my campaign, the gunslinger married a party NPC. The runaway princess monk has a relationship with the female magus, which has made things awkward with finding an heir to her father's kingdom. In my friend's campaign, two PCs have relationships with NPCs. My character has a deceased wife. My character is a magical cyborg with a magical chainsaw arm and can wrestle dragons and smash through buildings -- and he insists that his wife is tougher, more awesome, and died more heroically than he could ever hope for.


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real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.

This is true, if all your loved ones aren't dead you're just handing the gm a rope to yank you around by *nodnod*


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I'm very lucky, and one of the things I appreciate most about Pathfinder -- and the good folks behind the presses -- is that bigotry and misogyny is not a thing that's tolerated here on the forums, or considered baseline cultural behavior in the books. I actually made a mistake last session when I assumed that Kelishites had a male-dominated culture, forcing me -- gratefully mind you -- to backtrack a bit.

Sex and alternative sexuality has become a big part of my Serpent's Skull campaign, but not by design. Just kind of happened organically. I have three dudes, two women, one of whom is trans. She plays a trans woman and got into a relationship with one of the male NPCs whom I played as totally cool with it (Gelik Aberwhinge, so trans-species as well!). The other lady had a bi fling with Aerys the brawling pirate, whom I played as a lesbian because it seemed right for the character. Their first kiss (while a bloody battle raged around them), was one of the campaign highlights. We are all very comfortable with the level of romance and sexuality.

I'm lucky. And we're all lucky the hobby has come such a long way. When I took up roleplaying games transsexuality and homosexuality were listed in the "insanity" tables of a popular game at the time I shan't mention (save to say it rhymes with "vanadium"), fighters were called fighting men, and women couldn't have a higher max strength than men.


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Jim Mount wrote:
When I took up roleplaying games transsexuality and homosexuality were listed in the "insanity" tables of a popular game at the time I shan't mention...

I once owned another book with similarly pejorative references, that was otherwise one of my favorite RPG supplements for many years (until I lost it in a flood). Somewhat ironically, the author has transitioned in the many years since then.


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A majority of my characters have been heterosexual simply because that's what I am and it's what I'm the most comfortable playing. Fairly recently I played a half-dryad bard (this was a homebrew D&D 5e campaign, not Pathfinder, but in the context of the subject, I don't think that matters), was who blatantly omnisexual. He was a ton of fun to play, not because of his sexuality, but because of his somewhat eccentric personality.

I've played plenty of characters whose sexuality never once came up in the game. I guess they would have been considered asexual in that case.

I also played a female character who's view on nudity was very simply, "If you don't want to see my lady bits, then don't look." She was also a fun character. She wasn't a nudest in terms of philosophy, but she was very brazen and would do or say literally anything. She had no filter. If she wanted to get naked and wander around like that, she would, and if you had an issue with it, it was your problem not hers.

But in terms of the majority of my characters, they've been heterosexual.

On the other side of the screen, however, I've had NPCs of all kinds of sexual orientations.


Depends on the character, group and game.
Generally, one of my groups mostly ignores sexuality or does stuff off screen, and play mostly but not entirely straight.

The other (especially one player) does a lot more but is still mostly straight. Since all the players are straight we tend that way. We are currently doing a Romeo & Julius sub-quest, if that helps.

Personally, sexuality is never a primary concern when creating characters and has in my 25 years of gaming been a central personality trait only once (and that developed through play). Pretty much every character starts out as 'undefined but probably straight' and stays that way until some situation occurs in game that makes me need to decide. I've had one 'probably lesbian' but sexuality never came up in that game. I've had one gay guy (so the DM informed me), a couple who were probably asexual, at least one (semi-)bisexual and a goodly number of plain old heterosexuals.

NPCs in my games are like my PCs: undefined but probably straight until the matter comes up, and then I'll often just roll a die to determine sexuality if it's important.


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In general on this topic I would say this

-sorry everyone, I am a little late to the game

Gaming brings all kinds of people together in fun and breaks down barriers and prejudice.
To that end its important that diversity of all kinds is reflected in gaming - sexual orientation, gender identity included.

Basically, I think everyone should be gaming and the gaming community has to be inclusive.


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I don't really think about it too much as we consider most interpersonal relationships just part of the roleplay, but there are a few instances that come to mind from my tables.

Our mythic elven magus is wooing Queen Talandia who is also being wooed by Seltyiel who happens to be wooing the elven magus in return.

The mythic arcanist met a grown up mythic Sheila from the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon in a bar in Kaer Maga. It's a long story.

Kyra the cleric and our young female gnome druid have been kindling a quiet attraction between friends.

That's about all that comes to mind at the moment.


As a DM, I treat most NPC as being pansexual with a few exclusively hetero or homosexual exceptions when it can bring something interesting to thhe story.
Players often try to seduce NPCs and NPCs will occasionally try to flirt with attractive PCs if it fits the story, within the limits of everyone comfort zone.
I do avoid bringing the subject of bigotry unless I have a good reason and my players agree to it. I often play with other LGBT+ people, and we deal with bigotry enough in the real world that we don't enjoy also encountering it casually in play.

As a player, my characters are all over the spectrums of sexualities and genders, and respond to advances or make advances of their own depending on whatever their tastes are, and wether everyone involved is ok with it.


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Pretty much every character starts out as 'undefined but probably straight' and stays that way until some situation occurs in game that makes me need to decide.

That would probably be the case for mine as well.

That sorceress i mentioned before, if the game would have developed further (see situation: GM has no more time to run the campaign), i think she would have swung either way as Bi.

I have one PC, whose gender i have not chosen, not even after hitting lvl 5. Thus, i avoid any words related to either side.
(It helps when wearing an all covering outfit and a mask)

Within the game that one plays in, another party member has somewhat peaked the PC's interest. As such, until i figure out which gender i'd like the PC to be (or maybe never decide upon?), that one's romantic orientation is a mystery to me.

Only two PCs i have had to think about, on sexual orientation.


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Ryan Freire wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.
This is true, if all your loved ones aren't dead you're just handing the gm a rope to yank you around by *nodnod*

{steps out of blue policebox} Ha, losers! I planned ahead and permanently prevented my GM from yanking me around by my relatives. I went back in time and killed them all off before I was born! AH HA HA HA, take that, GM!

Er, wait, something doesn't seem quite- {vanishes}


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sex, sexuality, and story is 40% of the games i DM in our long group.
(30% exploration / 30% combat makes up the rest)

funny enough its over the top violence that would earn the censorship.

we haven't just "kill monsters/ take loot" since 2004


If it comes up and there is a player to whom it matters I'll make sure they have appropriate sorts to interact with. Otherwise it's going to be at about the rate of real life, more or less. Not going to up the rate unless it's important to a player.


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When it matters (rarely), my characters' sexuality almost always mirrors my own, because that's what I know best. Otherwise they're generally ace.

In the gaming I've been involved in over the years, characters sharing the sexuality of the player has been the default.

Grand Lodge

Sexuality rarely comes up in my groups games. When it does it's usually because it was written in by Paizo (Wrath of the Righteous pops to mind), but not with player characters.


Ryan Freire wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.
This is true, if all your loved ones aren't dead you're just handing the gm a rope to yank you around by *nodnod*

Lol. I like to do the opposite so all of the story revolves around my character. My disposable loved ones make me the center of the universe.


Melkiador wrote:
Ryan Freire wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.
This is true, if all your loved ones aren't dead you're just handing the gm a rope to yank you around by *nodnod*
Lol. I like to do the opposite so all of the story revolves around my character. My disposable loved ones make me the center of the universe.

It also makes generating backup characters easier when you've got an undisclosed number of identical twin/triplet/X+1 brothers with exactly the same stats and class levels. Just make sure your character's last will and testament leaves all his gear to his brother, who coincidentally happens to appear soon after your death.


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You know I play the character and kind of feel it out. I let the character run away with me a bit and see where it goes.

Edit after thought:
It is easier to play what you can most easily relate too. If I play something to far from own personality I tend to worry If I'm doing it correctly. So most of my character tend to share quite a few traits with myself (kind of have to right?)

Shadow Lodge

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Like me, most of my characters are lesbians, although I am often the only one who knows. I have several asexual characters, and one who is trans am (though I expect that to literally never come up in play.)


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Depends on the character I make, but I generally assume heterosexual. That drive for reproduction is generally well established in most species, I assume. However, depending on the tone of the game, and the gender of the character I am playing, their sexuality can be more fluid. Or they are just incredible flirts that enjoy the game but have no intentions of following through.

Sexuality really isn't a huge thing at our table. We tend to do the whole fade to black scene and the DM gives a quick summary the next morning.


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JDLPF wrote:
Melkiador wrote:
Ryan Freire wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
real roll players take asexuality, because DM's will just use your loved ones to draw you into a trap and it makes you susceptible to various charm monster like abilities.
This is true, if all your loved ones aren't dead you're just handing the gm a rope to yank you around by *nodnod*
Lol. I like to do the opposite so all of the story revolves around my character. My disposable loved ones make me the center of the universe.
It also makes generating backup characters easier when you've got an undisclosed number of identical twin/triplet/X+1 brothers with exactly the same stats and class levels. Just make sure your character's last will and testament leaves all his gear to his brother, who coincidentally happens to appear soon after your death.

.

Cleric: {squints at new PC's adventuring charter} "So, you're Sir Reginald Meeseeks the 13th? The other other other twin brother to our third Reg? Or was it fourth Reg. Wait, how many Regs have we gone through just this month?! I'm losing count."
Fighter: {shrugs} "I dunno. I'm pretty sure they're getting the numbering wrong too."
Conjurer: "Welcome, newReg. Say, are you any good at trapfinding?" {hides Meeseeks box in backpack}


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I have one thing to add to this discussion which hasn't been brought up yet. I have absolutely zero tolerance for any sort of rape or sexual assault storylines or role play. It's actually really weird that that has to be stated but sometimes we have new players (friends of friends) come in that I havent had a chance to properly vet and they don't know the etiquette?

Tl;dr, it's not game of thrones guys.

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