Races for Season of Faction's Favor


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1/5

So no big changes in what races will be "Always Available" or am I going to have to rush and get some XP on an Undine now that Aquatic Adventures is out and Aqua Paladins are a real thing?

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

No changes to races. Nothing new in, nothing current out.

1/5

Honestly? Good.

This is sort of the first year where there's nothing appropriate to add to the Always Available. I want there to be theme, y'know? "Hey it's Year of Darkness, here are Munvari and Fetchlings!" or "Hey, it's Year of Belkzen's Wrath, play an Orc or a Hobgoblin." or "We're going to Azlant, play a Gillman!"

This year I don't need a new race because our storyline is kind of inward focused, I have all the races I need.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

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I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.

Grand Lodge 2/5

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No changes, as heard directly from Linda.

PaizoCon bloggery post

4/5

Lau Bannenberg wrote:
I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.

Well, if someone GMs at a con a quarter, they are getting more race boons than they can reasonably use anyway. It might be time to consider other types of boons (like special equipment boons) for GMs.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

Mimo Tomblebur wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.
Well, if someone GMs at a con a quarter, they are getting more race boons than they can reasonably use anyway. It might be time to consider other types of boons (like special equipment boons) for GMs.

Yeah, I'm starting to accumulate.

5/5 5/55/55/5

Trickledown! trickle down!

Paizo Employee 4/5 Pathfinder Society Lead Developer

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Mimo Tomblebur wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.
Well, if someone GMs at a con a quarter, they are getting more race boons than they can reasonably use anyway. It might be time to consider other types of boons (like special equipment boons) for GMs.

I'd be cautious about this approach, as the experience of the campaign's more active convention GMs doesn't necessarily reflect the experience of someone who runs games at one convention per year and was really hoping for a race boon. Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.

Silver Crusade 4/5 *** Venture-Lieutenant, Ohio—Toledo

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John Compton wrote:

I'd be cautious about this approach, as the experience of the campaign's more active convention GMs doesn't necessarily reflect the experience of someone who runs games at one convention per year and was really hoping for a race boon. Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.

Amen to that. Thank you providing this perspective.

1/5 5/5

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Indeed.

While we have several small conventions locally, I've only been able to judge for about half of them due to small player base.

And no, there's no good way for me to grow the local base while working full-time.

The idea of an alternate choice between 'special gear', 'racial boon', 'rebuild', 'GM allowed to Dayjob', and such sounds like a nifty idea, but the implementation of that would need to be a careful balancing act, lest it 'overpower' a GM boon.

Silver Crusade 4/5

There are a few boons that I can imagine that might be almost as popular as race boons, if they were available. And yes, I'm one of those with a small collection of race boons. I'm not consistent enough to get one every quarter, though. Since Gen Con last year, I got 3 gripplis and a vanara, but no dhampir or ratfolk (until trading for a ratfolk).

I suggested a couple of months ago maybe having a boon that opens up some of the race restricted archetypes or other race restricted features to other races. The ability to use Windy Escape without being a sylph, or the Prowler at World's End archetype without being the only catfolk in PFS, would be nice options.

But I agree that we shouldn't take away race boon options to offer these. Maybe have two boons for GMs at conventions, with each GMing choosing which of the two they'd rather get - the race boon or the non-race boon. I actually remember back around season 3 or 4 when it was similar to that. I GMed at a convention and was given my choice of 3 different race boons. And no, I'm not talking about the "triple race" boon that had three races (kitsune, nagaji, wayang) on the same boon.

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The GenCon GM boons offer rewards in each tier, scaling up, so Tier 1 gets access to everything, 2 access to almost everything, etc.

Why not make the GM reward rotation a scaling boon, judge for one convention, get the base boon (choose from 1 of 4 races), judge for 2, scale it up for another option (special racial archetype) or get another base boon, etc. Seems like some flexibility would be interesting here.

1/5 5/5

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CigarPete wrote:

The GenCon GM boons offer rewards in each tier, scaling up, so Tier 1 gets access to everything, 2 access to almost everything, etc.

Why not make the GM reward rotation a scaling boon, judge for one convention, get the base boon (choose from 1 of 4 races), judge for 2, scale it up for another option (special racial archetype) or get another base boon, etc. Seems like some flexibility would be interesting here.

This only rewards the folks that get to GM a LOT at conventions, which was the caution that John was hinting at.

We have, in my area, approximately a half-dozen conventions.

In the past year, I've only been allowed to GM at three due to size of player population.

It could have been much lower, except I was willing to run scenarios that no one else wanted to run.

Trying to tie that sort of participation either runs into my situation, or the other one, where there may not even BE any local conventions.

RSP does NOT cover that enough to make up for any expansion of convention GM boons.

1/5

John Compton wrote:
Mimo Tomblebur wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.
Well, if someone GMs at a con a quarter, they are getting more race boons than they can reasonably use anyway. It might be time to consider other types of boons (like special equipment boons) for GMs.
I'd be cautious about this approach, as the experience of the campaign's more active convention GMs doesn't necessarily reflect the experience of someone who runs games at one convention per year and was really hoping for a race boon. Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.

Ah-Greed. There are three regular cons down here in Baton Rouge and only one of them qualifies for Race boons regularly. The other Con that qualifies is in Mississippi and it's struggling as it is.

4/5

Ok, ok. I understand I live in an area drowning in Con opportunities (so much so that it is hard to keep people interested in the local store games, which I strongly prefer.) I'm just making a suggestion of what would help keep me motivated. This year I signed up for enough tables at Gen Con to get a boon, but am now asking myself why. The opportunity cost is quite high.

5/5 5/55/55/5

Just because the races aren't changing doesn't mean that the race boons aren't changing.

1/5

Fromper wrote:
or the Prowler at World's End archetype without being the only catfolk in PFS, would be nice options.

This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.

Paizo Employee 4/5 Pathfinder Society Lead Developer

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Thomas Hutchins wrote:
Fromper wrote:
or the Prowler at World's End archetype without being the only catfolk in PFS, would be nice options.
This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.

...yet.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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John Compton wrote:
Thomas Hutchins wrote:
Fromper wrote:
or the Prowler at World's End archetype without being the only catfolk in PFS, would be nice options.
This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.
...yet.

Can there goes the catfolk chasing the pretty red light up the wall!

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

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I can haz catfolk?

5/5 5/55/55/5

Nefreet wrote:
I can haz catfolk?

The Cleric General recommends that Tengu avoid catfolk as it can be hazardous to their health.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Yup, all those sharp beaks, and the blades that tengu are all trained in, could slice up the furballs.

1/5

Should my Ratfolk be worried?

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/55/55/5

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holds up a sign with a kitty cat and a ghostbusters OH HELL NO symbol

Grand Lodge 3/5

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John Compton wrote:
Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.

Fingers crossed that this becomes a thing. I know I'm in the minority but I have almost no use for race boons. Mine are waiting for me to use them with a Xenophobia or Xenophile boon (if I ever get one) or something along those lines. I enjoy GMing the specials, but would be much happier if there was a non-race boon that I could get out of it

Grand Lodge 3/5

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I would *love* an option to use two or three race boons for a rebuild, or otherwise make rebuild boons accessible outside of a trip to Gencon.

Or maybe a GM boon with more limited re-build options that aren't available with normal re-training? Sell back and re-buy your grear? Re-train your traits and racial traits? Re-spend your attribute points and stat bumps?

Liberty's Edge 1/5

dwayne germaine wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.
Fingers crossed that this becomes a thing. I know I'm in the minority but I have almost no use for race boons. Mine are waiting for me to use them with a Xenophobia or Xenophile boon (if I ever get one) or something along those lines. I enjoy GMing the specials, but would be much happier if there was a non-race boon that I could get out of it

If you would be interested in trading some of those race boons, or maybe other boons, I believe I still have 2 Xenophobia boons. PM me if interested.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Trickledown! trickle down!

Oh, I have been, trust me.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

^ indeed! TOZ gave me my first race boon ever =D

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
I can haz catfolk?
The Cleric General recommends that Tengu avoid catfolk as it can be hazardous to their health.

Now I want to make a character called Cleric General...

4/5 **** Venture-Lieutenant, Maryland—Hagerstown

I received two gripplis back to back from online and then at a convention.

I gave my second to a GM that runs at the store I organize for as a gift for all the hard work he puts in.

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria

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Gifting of donating to a charity raffle is how I invest the vast majority of my race boons.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Minnesota

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John Compton wrote:
Thomas Hutchins wrote:


This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.
...yet.

Oh! Oh! If I can get a kitty I can finally let go of the Tiefling boon I've been hanging on to all this time. (Because furry tieflings can have cat ears and a tail!)

Catfolk has been a dream of mine!

Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Gifting of donating to a charity raffle is how I invest the vast majority of my race boons.

We've been thinking of doing a Charity fundraiser at Dreamers for a member of the Minnesota Lodge that has been diagnosed with Cancer. Doing a special event that charges ten bucks a seat, but hosts some less often done options for games and a charity raffle for boons. Goodness knows that I have accumulated a selection of them that I could give away.

All race boons are still special to me, but I GM more than I play, and so I don't get to make characters for all of them.

Hmm

Liberty's Edge 1/5

Hilary Moon Murphy wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Thomas Hutchins wrote:


This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.
...yet.

Oh! Oh! If I can get a kitty I can finally let go of the Tiefling boon I've been hanging on to all this time. (Because furry tieflings can have cat ears and a tail!)

Catfolk has been a dream of mine!

Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Gifting of donating to a charity raffle is how I invest the vast majority of my race boons.

We've been thinking of doing a Charity fundraiser at Dreamers for a member of the Minnesota Lodge that has been diagnosed with Cancer. Doing a special event that charges ten bucks a seat, but hosts some less often done options for games and a charity raffle for boons.

Hmm

Hoping for a chance at Catfolk as well. :D

1/5 5/5

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I'm normally very much about bird-folk, but I could very easily make an exception for *one* cat.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
I can haz catfolk?
The Cleric General recommends that Tengu avoid catfolk as it can be hazardous to their health.

Who? The catfolk or the Tengu.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 **** Venture-Captain, Minnesota

Having seen Tengu shred opponents... I'm betting on the crows!

Hmm

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Need to see if I can find another aasimar to fusion up a ganzi character.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Need to see if I can find another aasimar to fusion up a ganzi character.

I might have a spare. I'll have to check.

1/5

John Compton wrote:
Thomas Hutchins wrote:
Fromper wrote:
or the Prowler at World's End archetype without being the only catfolk in PFS, would be nice options.
This archetype, so psyched when I saw it was legal, so let down when I realized that it was for catfolk only AND that there's no way to get a catfolk.
...yet.

Damn it John, I just got done saying how satisfied I was with our racial options this year. Don't you go making me boon hunt again! Don't you do it! I already went nuts when someone told me there was a Fetchling out there to be had (A lie) and I lost my bean looking for a Samsaran that I still don't have.

2/5 5/5 **

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John Compton wrote:
Mimo Tomblebur wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
I like that I don't have to scramble to lock in any races I still want, but part of me thinks rotating stuff out has merits too, otherwise we're going to run out of special stuff to offer as boons.
Well, if someone GMs at a con a quarter, they are getting more race boons than they can reasonably use anyway. It might be time to consider other types of boons (like special equipment boons) for GMs.
I'd be cautious about this approach, as the experience of the campaign's more active convention GMs doesn't necessarily reflect the experience of someone who runs games at one convention per year and was really hoping for a race boon. Were there to be a special equipment boon introduced into the GM rewards rotation, it would likely need to be offered as an alternative to—not a replacement of—the race boon on offer.

Yes. I have one Con a year in my area, and I'm not sure it qualifies. So hitting up twice a year PbP GDs might be my only shot at GM race boons. The fact that I'm attending and GMing GenCon this year doesn't mean I'll get to next year.

So I would be sad if they suddenly retired the race boon as a GM reward.

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