Custom summoned monster list


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Hello everyone, I'm here because I play a character who can summons monster as spell-like abilitie (for standard action, 1 min / CL instead of 1rd). But, I'm going to use a custom list of monster with less beatstick and more monster with useful / out of combat abitilies.

I take inspiration in the expanded summon monster list and the list of monster specific for priest of some god (summoner handbook). I could probably use any other monster, but I should choose carefully the level needed to summon it ...

For now, I have found some interesting monster for specific use :

Baboon (1) : climb, opposable thumbs
- can retrieve/steal items, climb inaccessible place for human, ...

Ram (2) improved bull rush (lot of possibilities just with this, only +5 CMB but probably going to houserule powerfull charge to affect bull-rush when charging)

Silvanshee (3) : speak with animal + truespeech = universal translator
+ really good spy/scout (tiny, fly, myst form, dimension door, ...)

I have only looked for monster below summons monster 4. There is a lot of other possibilities but i'd like to hear some of your propositions !


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My advice to you is talk to your GM first and ask them what they think.

No offense, but as a GM I would ask you to just use the list given for Summon Monster spells.


Yeah I should have mentionned that before but it's also a decision from the GM.
He is OK with all the monster from the expanded lists (as long as I remove monster from standard list), and for the other monster we are going to work together to see if it's ok and choose the correct level.

I'm not going to give details but house ruling isn't a problem here.


You playing a summoner? Or some sort of weird backstory based wizard?


The Skeptical Gnome wrote:
You playing a summoner? Or some sort of weird backstory based wizard?

monster tactician

That's why I should summons more "usefull" monster which help me and not just killing machines.


If we're talking monster tactician, then that's fair. You begin doing that after either way. This list for 1st level?


For now the 1st level list is the classic list minus the poisonous frog, the dire rat and the viper and with the baboon, the badger and the kangaroo.

The Exchange

Two things to consider. Summon critters can't dim door and it it's hard to get an animal to do stuff besides attack your enemy's.


Yes, I forgot the rule about the teleportation.

But for your second point i can do some task with a speak with animal spell. And some critter like the silvanshee have 10 int and can speak, so i can ask him anything.

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