I wanna cast...Magic Mucous?!?


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

2 people marked this as FAQ candidate.

Can the magic fang spell benefit Spit attacks, such as those possessed by the Camel and Giant Slug Animal Companions (in the former case, I know it wouldn't provide additional rounds of sickening, but it might still apply to the attack roll)? They ARE natural weapons....

Grand Lodge

Attack action wrote:
Attacks made with natural weapons, such as claws and bites, are melee attacks that can be made against any creature within your reach (usually 5 feet).

Those might be special attacks or special abilities rather than natural weapons.

Scarab Sages

I just noticed that the Slug's Spit ability is indeed listed as a "Special Attack" - but what's funny is that the Camel's isn't.

Grand Lodge

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
I just noticed that the Slug's Spit ability is indeed listed as a "Special Attack" - but what's funny is that the Camel's isn't.

Whereas their Bestiary entries list the camel's spit as a Special Attack (in non-standard format) and giant slug's spit as a Ranged Attack, both also listed as Special Abilities. Marked for FAQ

Scarab Sages

Starglim wrote:

Whereas their Bestiary entries list the camel's spit as a Special Attack (in non-standard format) and giant slug's spit as a Ranged Attack, both also listed as Special Abilities. Marked for FAQ

Thing about that is that, mechanics-wise, the Bestiary Camel and the Camel Companion are treated as completely different creatures, so what's true for one in that regard actually says nothing whatsoever about the other.

Scarab Sages

I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Starglim wrote:

Whereas their Bestiary entries list the camel's spit as a Special Attack (in non-standard format) and giant slug's spit as a Ranged Attack, both also listed as Special Abilities. Marked for FAQ

Thing about that is that, mechanics-wise, the Bestiary Camel and the Camel Companion are treated as completely different creatures, so what's true for one in that regard actually says nothing whatsoever about the other.

Issue there is that they overlooked the Camel in Bestiary 1, so there no entry for it. Only got addressed in Bestiary 2. Would be nice if they consolidated the entry from the CRB with the one from Bestiary 2 so they matched up better.

Grand Lodge

Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Issue there is that they overlooked the Camel in Bestiary 1, so there no entry for it.

I would have liked to see it in the first Bestiary too, but was using Bestiary to refer to whichever of the series they were in. I see the Giant Slug is in B1, but as vermin, its companion progression is more recent.

Scarab Sages

Starglim wrote:
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Issue there is that they overlooked the Camel in Bestiary 1, so there no entry for it.
I would have liked to see it in the first Bestiary too, but was using Bestiary to refer to whichever of the series they were in. I see the Giant Slug is in B1, but as vermin, its companion progression is more recent.

But not that recent. Vermin Companions are Ultimate Magic. So, was the book that came after B2, but before ultimate combat.

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