How do you think certain deities got demoted?


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So, we now know the names and portfolios of the 20 core Starfinder deities. The list, as compiled by forumite Ashanderai, is as follows:

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1. Iomedae, the Inheritor (LG) - Goddess of Honorable Battle, Humanity, Justice, & Valor (Rulership was taken out)

2. Hylax, the Forever Queen (LG) - Goddess of Diplomacy, First Contact, Friendship, & Peace
3. Abadar, Master of the First Vault (LN) - God of Civilization, Commerce, Law, & Wealth ("cities" and "merchants" were removed from more broadly applicable and up-to-date terminology)
4. Talavet, the Storyteller (LN) - Goddess of Community, Self-Reliance, & Tradition
5. Zon-Kuthon, the Midnight Lord (LE) - God of Darkness, Envy, Loss, & Pain
6. Damoritosh, the Conqueror (LE) - Conquest, Duty, & War (Uh-huh, I figured this guy was gonna be LE.)
7. Sarenrae, the Dawnflower (NG) - Goddess of Healing, Redemption, & the Sun (Honesty was removed from her portfolio)
8. Yaraesa, Lady of Wisdom (NG) - Goddess of Knowledge, Mental Perfection, Scholarship, & Science
9. Pharasma, Lady of Graves (N) - Goddess of Birth, Death, Fate, & Prophecy
10. Triune, The All-Code (N) - God of Artificial Intelligence, Computers, & the Drift
11. Eloritu, the Hidden Truth (N) - God of History, Magic, & Secrets
12. Ibra, the Inscrutable (N) - God of Celestial Bodies, the Cosmos, & Mysteries of the Universe
13. Urgathoa, the Pallid Princess (NE) - Goddess of Disease, Gluttony, & Undeath
14. Lao Shu Po, Grandmother Rat (NE) - Goddess of Assassins, Rats, Spies, & Thieves (this is an update from the old portfolio which has Night, Rats, & Thieves and called her "Old Rat Woman")
15. Desna, Song of the Spheres (CG) - Goddess of Dreams, Luck, Stars, & Travelers
16. Weydan, the Endless Horizon (CG) - God of Discovery, Equality, Exploration, & Freedom
17. Oras, Agent of Change (CN) - God of Adaptation, Evolution, & Natural Selection
18. Besmara, the Pirate Queen (CN) - Goddess of Piracy, Space Monsters, & Strife (Ha! I knew that if she were in the core 20 here that she would have to have "sea monsters" updated to something more applicable to the new setting)
19. Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos (CE) - Outer God of Conspiracies, Dangerous Secrets, & Forbidden Magic
20. The Devourer, the Star-Eater (CE) - God of Black Holes, Destruction, & Supernovas

So, from this list, we can see that quite a few core deities from Pathfinder are not quite as relevant as they were back in the day. This thread is for positing theories for how these demotions came about. To kick things off, here are some of my theories:

Lamashtu was a demon goddess whose portfolio includes motherhood and monsters. As Besmara's entry indicate that she got her big break after mugging a different diety's portfolio, I think Lamashtu was the one who had her lunch money taken. Now space monsters, from space goblins all the way up to the biggest monstrosities, fall under Besmara's sway rather than Lamashtu's.

Asmodeus tried to form his own company to compete with AbadarCorp. However, for any number of reasons, said business failed and was bought out by AbadarCorp. Now Asmodeus is stuck in his own personal hell, working as an underling for a boss that he hates.

Rovagug is either still trapped in Golarion or got out and was eaten by the Devourer. Or maybe is the Devourer. It's a little ambiguous.


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Willing to bet rovagug and the devoured are 1 and the same

Asmodeus probably depending on circumstances might have relinquished his godhood provided the deal was right


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Though I'm loathe to see him go, Erastil's demotion probably makes sense. He likely had few spacefaring followers, being worshipped mainly by pastoral communities and farmers, and so the disappearance of Golarion probably ripped the heart and soul out of his church. Likewise, Starfinder-era pastoral societies are probably limited to the rare and isolated equivalent of neo-Amish. Farming may well be primarily accomplished by large, automated industrial systems these days, which would naturally lend themselves at least as much to Triune as Erastil. What do you hunt in the vastness of space? (Well, besides Besmara's monsters)

Gozreh likewise makes a logical downturn. It's hard to see what a "space druid" would look like, considering the paucity of life in the void. How much does a starship captain care about wind and waves? Scarcely at all. Absalom Station probably has no need at all for Gozreh, unless he controls the air currents in the station's environment system.


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I had the same idea about Besmara and Lamashtu when I read the blog.


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Golarion - One system with many races. Many have their own pantheons or race inclined deities.

The rest of existence out in the Galaxy - Some races made it to the stars first and their key deities grew in power as their chosen races grew in numbers and influence.

Golarion hit the star ways and brought their gods with them (some of whom may have been already known on other worlds already, a lot more probably not) and had to deal with 'fitting in' the existing galactic faith setup.

Some other deities would have been more powerful and have more numerous worshipers and just simply would have grown 'over' the Golarion deities that would have duplicate spheres of influence.

For example, given that the Damaritosh was already a war god of a warlike species who had an extrasolar empire, Gorum for example may have made a bid for top 'wardog' and been smacked down.

Rinse and repeat as needed for other deities. Perhaps some Golarion gods were happy with just looking over Golarion and when it went *POOF* they decided to go with it.

Also consider the fact that planets with a single intelligent life form on it that had a unified religion, once they hit their space lanes their deities would be a step a head of Golarions due to a larger worshipper base.

One entire planet of one race all worshipping the same gods means those gods have a step ahead of a pantheon who comes form a planet with myriad races and who all worship different gods.


shelyn is there either.

though outside any humanoid settlement ,doubt she would have any relevance on a spaceship....


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In my game the Kasatha worshipped Erastil because of their strong emphasis on community.


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Gilfalas wrote:

Golarion - One system with many races. Many have their own pantheons or race inclined deities.

The rest of existence out in the Galaxy - Some races made it to the stars first and their key deities grew in power as their chosen races grew in numbers and influence.

Golarion hit the star ways and brought their gods with them (some of whom may have been already known on other worlds already, a lot more probably not) and had to deal with 'fitting in' the existing galactic faith setup.

Some other deities would have been more powerful and have more numerous worshipers and just simply would have grown 'over' the Golarion deities that would have duplicate spheres of influence.

For example, given that the Damaritosh was already a war god of a warlike species who had an extrasolar empire, Gorum for example may have made a bid for top 'wardog' and been smacked down.

Rinse and repeat as needed for other deities. Perhaps some Golarion gods were happy with just looking over Golarion and when it went *POOF* they decided to go with it.

Also consider the fact that planets with a single intelligent life form on it that had a unified religion, once they hit their space lanes their deities would be a step a head of Golarions due to a larger worshipper base.

One entire planet of one race all worshipping the same gods means those gods have a step ahead of a pantheon who comes form a planet with myriad races and who all worship different gods.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. Gorum isn't even supposed to have come about until the orc-human wars when the orcs fled the Darklands ahead of the dwarves, and even then he's not commonly worshipped outside of barbarians, mercenaries, and half-orcs. Damaritosh had a whole system full of fanatical Vesk worshipping him. If worshippers=power, then it isn't hard to see how Damaritosh and his legions smacked down Gorum and his horde of barbarians.


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IonutRO wrote:
In my game the Kasatha worshipped Erastil because of their strong emphasis on community.

There is a very high chance that I will be stealing this for my game, pending the information I get about Kasatha's in the core rule book.


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I think "demoted" may be a little strong of a word to describe any deities that haven't outright disappeared. XD From what I've seen, at least. Rather, some deities are just less relevant in particular regions. The fact that Asmodeus isn't doing a whole lot on space stations doesn't mean that Hell is suddenly inactive or more fantastic cultures aren't seeing devil pacts made all over the place.

It's kind of like the way that an oceanic deity probably won't have a lot of worshipers in a land-locked mountain range. Sometimes deities just don't fit in that well.

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Honestly I'm still stumped by Asmodeus not being in the big 20. It's not like contracts went out of style, if anything they're more important now than ever.


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Yeah, but evil contracts are something else entirely. XD Advanced societies probably have more (and better) lawyers to go over them...


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Three words: Muppets In Space.


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Balancer wrote:
Honestly I'm still stumped by Asmodeus not being in the big 20. It's not like contracts went out of style, if anything they're more important now than ever.

AbadarCorp bought the right for dominion of contracts from Asmodeus. Unfortunately for Modey, the technical distinction between Abadar himself and AbadarCorp meant that loopholes he included to try and tilt things in his favor never kicked in.


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Ouachitonian wrote:

Though I'm loathe to see him go, Erastil's demotion probably makes sense. He likely had few spacefaring followers, being worshipped mainly by pastoral communities and farmers, and so the disappearance of Golarion probably ripped the heart and soul out of his church. Likewise, Starfinder-era pastoral societies are probably limited to the rare and isolated equivalent of neo-Amish. Farming may well be primarily accomplished by large, automated industrial systems these days, which would naturally lend themselves at least as much to Triune as Erastil. What do you hunt in the vastness of space? (Well, besides Besmara's monsters)

Well, you kind of answered your own question. When one of Besmara's "pets" comes rampaging through the neighborhood, what's to say Erastilain monster monster hunters won't try to take care of it.

But I do have another answer to your question. Erastil worshiping bounty hunters are likely to be a thing. There will still be outlaws, and there will still be people needed to hunt them down- dead or alive.

Furthermore, as far as Erastil goes, I don't see him as ever being anti technology or Andy urban per say. What he is against is the isolation and community/family destroying aspects of those places. So I don't see his worship as being absent in Starfinder, even in larger cities. It certainly wouldn't be popular, but it would try to act as a rational force, holding people back from running of the metaphorical cliff of advancing too rapidly.

Basically, they're the type of people who would say "is this REALLY a good idea" when presented with something that promises to grant people the moon but in all likelihood will be unsuccessful or have unintended consequences.

Beyond that- I do have an idea for an entire planet in the Beyond (is that what it is called? Whatever the area is on the outskirts of the galaxy) colonized by Erastilians sometime during the gap. It's not a mideval society or anything- tech wise, it's about as developed as earth is in most ways (the exception being space travel, and of course, having Magic). So that will be fun to develop.


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Eh, it seems like even in Pathfinder Erastil tends not to be venerated much in major urban areas, but rather in small villages, the countryside, etc. Maybe it's my own experience coming from a less-populous part of the US, big cities* make me nervous, but I have a hard time seeing Erastil finding a home in the sort of bustling metropolises that become ever-more normal as tech advances and populations increase. There's a sort of community in big cities, but it's a very different sort from that found in the small towns he seems to favor.

*"Big" here defined as, let's say, 750k. Memphis (646k, as of the 2010 census) is about the biggest city that did't weird me out, and that may just be because I go there fairly often.


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Rothlis wrote:

Willing to bet rovagug and the devoured are 1 and the same

Asmodeus probably depending on circumstances might have relinquished his godhood provided the deal was right

THEORY: If Rovagug and the Devourer ARE one and the same, then Asmodeus' main job, his sole reason for existence is gone; his main job was key keeper for the Rovaprison. :) if so, no wonder he was demoted - he was too busy trying to play mortal games and got busted. :)


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Calden Cayden: Found out there were bars on other planets and took off on en epic BAR CRAWL TO THE STARS!


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Here's my head cannon.

One day, Cayden and Torag come to the decision that they're going to have the ultimate drinking competition between the two of them. Other gods of an agreeable nature join in as the competition turns into the most roaring divine house party to ever happen in the history of the cosmos. Gods and Goddesses get so absolutely wasted that it bleeds out into the various layers of the cosmos, causing galaxy wide brain damage in all sentient races, resulting in the Gap.

The various Divines stumble to their feet after uncounted years of partying later gripping heads throbbing with god-level hangovers. Besmara's nursing a cup of coffee while wearing half of someone else's Divinity. To this very day Cayden is passed out in Shellyn's flower bed while the Goddess herself is trying dejectedly to put some semblance of her pretty home back together. Those stains aren't coming out anytime soon, darling.

In the spirit of, "Dude, where's my car?" and "The Hangover", Torag and Golarion are still missing entirely. Nobody has any clue where those two ended up.


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Torag misplaced his towel and had to make a new one, it will be finished in five thousand years.

Which, really, when you think about it, isn't all that long.


Xenomorphs ate my wings. >:-(


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"Dude, where's my planet?"


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It actually looks more like Cayden grew up a bit, shed some of the whole tie to mortal life thing, and became Weydan.

Less emphasis on drinking, more emphasis on freedom, exploration, equality, discovery?

I mean, this is just theory, but with Triune being three deities that merged to form MechaGod, the idea of the Drunken Hero sobering up and going "Well, heck, there's a lot more out here than just being in a drunken haze?" isn't too far-fetched, especially given the significant time interval?


Road trip! Whoo hoo!!

Hauls ass to the Lollapalooza system.


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Balancer wrote:
Honestly I'm still stumped by Asmodeus not being in the big 20. It's not like contracts went out of style, if anything they're more important now than ever.

Siri evolved to the point that she was pointing out all of the loopholes.

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What happened to Art in Starfinder?

If that's what the future turns into, I'm GLAD I'm not living in it! No artistic expression, no love? At least I won't be around to experience that soul-less reality...


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Torag just became a god worshiped exclusively by dwarves. Nothing really malicious about it, people just started worshiping other gods when it came to major facets of his portfolio. He's pretty chill about the whole thing and takes it as an opportunity to spend more time with his family.

Erastil doesn't hate advanced technology but probably didn't feel really comfortable around it either. Poor fella just decided to pack his bags and move on to another part of the universe that hasn't advanced so much.

Zon-Kuthon finally showed his sister what he found in the Outer Darkness. She wasn't been seen since. That's probably a good thing.

Stealing Wei Ji the Learner's theory but adding that Desna was the one who got him interested in exploration.

Irori ascended again to become... something.

Gozreh is still on Golarion. Wherever the heck that is.

Nethys blow himself up.

Calistria finally went far off the deep end and turned into a drow goddess. The other elven gods had to pull a Sarenrae and seal her away in some underground prison in a galaxy far, far away. Apparently she goes by Lolth now.

Gorum got his ass kicked by Damoritosh.

Sarenrae actually managed to redeem Asmodeus somehow. Even she is shocked. He's currently busy spending much of his time apologizing to every being he damned or screwed over. It's gonna take him a long while before he starts giving out spells again.

Norgorber got assassinated by Lao Shu Po. Was pretty hard because she had to kill him like five times.

Lamashtu ironically enough had her own portfolio jacked by Besmara.

Rovagug is still trapped in the Dead Vault. Would not be happy to hear about this young whippersnapper Destroyer taking his job.

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Happily surprised to find myself loving the Chaotic deities!

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Where's Shelyn? Is there no need for love beauty and art in space?

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Delightful wrote:

Torag just became a god worshiped exclusively by dwarves. Nothing really malicious about it, people just started worshiping other gods when it came to major facets of his portfolio. He's pretty chill about the whole thing and takes it as an opportunity to spend more time with his family.

Erastil doesn't hate advanced technology but probably didn't feel really comfortable around it either. Poor fella just decided to pack his bags and move on to another part of the universe that hasn't advanced so much.

Zon-Kuthon finally showed his sister what he found in the Outer Darkness. She wasn't been seen since. That's probably a good thing.

Stealing Wei Ji the Learner's theory but adding that Desna was the one who got him interested in exploration.

Irori ascended again to become... something.

Gozreh is still on Golarion. Wherever the heck that is.

Nethys blow himself up.

Calistria finally went far off the deep end and turned into a drow goddess. The other elven gods had to pull a Sarenrae and seal her away in some underground prison in a galaxy far, far away. Apparently she goes by Lolth now.

Gorum got his ass kicked by Damoritosh.

Sarenrae actually managed to redeem Asmodeus somehow. Even she is shocked. He's currently busy spending much of his time apologizing to every being he damned or screwed over. It's gonna take him a long while before he starts giving out spells again.

Norgorber got assassinated by Lao Shu Po. Was pretty hard because she had to kill him like five times.

Lamashtu ironically enough had her own portfolio jacked by Besmara.

Rovagug is still trapped in the Dead Vault. Would not be happy to hear about this young whippersnapper Destroyer taking his job.

Better still, she killed him 4 times, he'll be back for his revenge. The only mortal in the universe who knows exactly what happened to Golarion, but needs a team of morally questionable space adventurers with one important job before he reveals it.


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Torag remains the head of dwarfdom, dwarfing it up.

Erastil's worship is all but gone in the core of the Pact Worlds... but out on the barely-explored fringe, he's still kind of a big deal. Or maybe he retired, handing his faithful over to the not-dissimilar Talavet.

Shelyn wasn't really that widely central to religious traditions of nations when Golarion was around. I figure she's a vibrant local presence on Absalom station, and finds the Shirren as wonderful as I do.

Cayden Cailean- Who cares? If he turns out to have become Weydan, great. If he doesn't, great.

Irori's faith was always fairly selfish and internally-focused... with Yaraesa doing similar things but more likely to actually lend a hand, I think he's simply been eclipsed. But whatever, those who prove themselves worthy still find his favor.

Gozreh's probably keeping an eye on Golarion. Wherever it is.

Nethys... might have achieved some sort of harmony between his warring impulses... and then Eloritu ATE HIM.

Calistria is probably quite happy to goad the paranoid Gap-recalling elves into lashing out at any they see as responsible.

Gorum... eh, who cares? Damoritosh has more style.

Asmodeus is lying low, probably a bit miffed that with Rovagug and his prison gone, no one has as much of a reason to put up with him.

Norgorber went looking for Eloritu's secrets... and then Eloritu ATE HIM.

Lamashtu, her main schtick undone by modern medicine. She went looking for new purpose, seeking Eloritu's secrets... and then Eloritu ATE HER.

Rovagug is dead and gone, having tried his old "fight everybody at once" schtick only to discover, far too late, that he was the BBEG of a Mythic AP now lost in the Gap and the PCs are assumed to have curbstomped him.


Mosts of them were wiped from existence when SHODAN fired up the Von Braun's faster than light drive and rewrote reality.


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Theyn and Mitsouko wrote:
Where's Shelyn? Is there no need for love beauty and art in space?

From the lowly troopers of the Azlanti Star Empire to the elite Vesk Marines, the Galaxy's defenders are ever beset by threats. In the grim darkness of the Starfinder future, there is only WAR.

Or, y'know, she's still kicking around as a minor deity because her priests weren't as good at proselytizing as others were. I'll be curious to find out, myself.


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They didn't get demoted. The writers just choose not to write about them in the CRB, because of a lack of infinite pages.

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Cole Deschain wrote:
Erastil's worship is all but gone in the core of the Pact Worlds... but out on the barely-explored fringe, he's still kind of a big deal.

Seems like he'd be a relevant god to colony worlds and settlements, if not quite so big a deal among space travelers. (Whom he'd disapprove of the same way he did adventurers, back in the day, taking their skills and resources away from the communities that nurtured them, all selfish-like.)


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It would be pretty cool if Weydan was, like Triune, a composite. Say of Cayden, Milani, and Shelyn.


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Ouachitonian wrote:
It would be pretty cool if Weydan was, like Triune, a composite. Say of Cayden, Milani, and Shelyn.

so caydens in an eternal three way? (that IS exactly how he'd see it)


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

Keep in mind that the "Core 20" deities is a statement of focus within the area we expect to be most of the focus of a campaign. It's not necessarily a declaration of cosmological importance.

If there was Blurglsplat the Staining, the slime mold god of spores, gentle inclines, and moisture, and Blurglsplat was worshiped by half of all thinking creatures in every galaxy in the universe except the one that includes the Pact Worlds, that would suggest good 'ol Blurgy is an incredibly powerful, influential, and crucial deity.

But if the pact worlds are in the only galaxy where no one has heard of the Avatar of Cool Dark Places, then Blurglsplat wouldn't be in the Core 20.

The Pathfinder Core 20 was core for Golarian, specifically the Inner Sea Region. The Pact Worlds adds the influence of dozens more species on a number of worlds, including the entire Vesharium and the kasatha on the Idari. And Golarian itself is missing, so however popular a deity's worship was there is much less influential than what's going on over at Verces, since the worshippers of Verces are still around.

Yes, it turns out Pharasma is Pharasma is Pharasma. Makes sense. But as noted, Gorum may have been a god created by a set of wars in Golarian's history. Crucial on Golarian, but not a big deal in the Verskarium. So, Damoritosh, THE Vesk deity, has a big influence on the Pact Worlds.

No reason to think anything happened to Gorum. He's just not as important on this larger, different, much later area of operations.

It's purely relevance towards the pact worlds. I don't consider it a "demotion" if they don't have broader appeal to the campaign setting. There is no necessity for something to have happened to them.


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Ouachitonian wrote:
It would be pretty cool if Weydan was, like Triune, a composite. Say of Cayden, Milani, and Shelyn.

During the Consolidation Period, a lot of deities realized that their portfolios overlapped.

Rather than compete for followers which was a dated and counter-productive thing, the more forward thinking deities incorporated their philosophies into one cohesive whole, which made life a lot easier for all parties involved... and led to said deities having a LOT more leisure time having to work only a portion of the time.

Also prominent during the Consolidation Period was 'The Prize' acquisition method of some deities by means of defeating other competitors in their portfolio areas, which eliminated competition and while not giving them a lot of free time, gave them a near-monopoly over their purviews.

The above is merely theory, but it's what my inner muse would write if it had hands.

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Alternatively, Cayden is still in rehab after consuming the universe's first, and thus far, only pan-galactic gargle blaster.


I think they said its more "these are the popular pact worlds gods" than these 20 being more powerful than others. Can't wait to see actual art for since of these, especially Besmara


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TheGoofyGE3K wrote:
I think they said its more "these are the popular pact worlds gods" than these 20 being more powerful than others. Can't wait to see actual art for since of these, especially Besmara

This ^

Seriously, beeing core deity has not much to do with their position or Strength.
I mean if the PF setting would be in the Dragon Empires we would have had mostly different gods
Or if it was solely fixed on Osirion we would all know Osiris and Horus and ask us "who the f+*~ is Caiden Cailean"

Asmodeus is still the Lord of Hell and one of the Oldest beeings in Existance
Shelyn is still the lovegoddess who is liked by basically everyone
Lamashtu is still an evil b%+@~ with monsters coming from all of her orifices

And if Core 20 would be about Power, then some god would have been replaced by Azathoth


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However, some inquiring minds will want to know for the SFS play aspect of what deities are 'legit' and which ones are 'not', and that could be a very frustrating/disturbing thing if folks are told 'no, you can't play a character that followed X deity (from Pathfinder) but you can play this Y deity that's nice New Coke.'

*spins this off into another thread in another place, as well, because it is tangential*


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I'm fairly confident they'll tell us which Deities are dead or missing since that's kind of important, and I'm fairly sure what deity you worship has no impact on your abilities anyway so it'd be mainly a fluff choice as to who you pray to.


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Rothlis wrote:

Willing to bet rovagug and the devoured are 1 and the same

Asmodeus probably depending on circumstances might have relinquished his godhood provided the deal was right

Hmm... Rovagug was actually a Spawn of the Devourer?

Or they did a Dragon Ball on Rovvie, when the new BBEG showed up they had an epic scene where Rovagug broke free and used its ultimate move on the Devourer only to see it bounce off the new baddie and then Rovagug was utterly destroyed by a flurry of black hole throwing stars followed by a lot of maniacal laughing, now the PCs only have 22 APs left to power up and take out Devourer before the next edition introduces the Devourer's father! Also, 2/3rds of all AP books will be recaps of the last book and a preview of the following one.


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Torbyne wrote:
Rothlis wrote:

Willing to bet rovagug and the devoured are 1 and the same

Asmodeus probably depending on circumstances might have relinquished his godhood provided the deal was right

Hmm... Rovagug was actually a Spawn of the Devourer?

Or they did a Dragon Ball on Rovvie, when the new BBEG showed up they had an epic scene where Rovagug broke free and used its ultimate move on the Devourer only to see it bounce off the new baddie and then Rovagug was utterly destroyed by a flurry of black hole throwing stars followed by a lot of maniacal laughing, now the PCs only have 22 APs left to power up and take out Devourer before the next edition introduces the Devourer's father! Also, 2/3rds of all AP books will be recaps of the last book and a preview of the following one.

It will be fine. The PCs just need to achieve their ultimate transformation, Super Murder Hobo 3.

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I'm guessing Calistria got dropped to further pare back the "sexytime stuff" from published material. Oh... you were looking for lore reasons.


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For a point of comparison, compare the Tian Xia pantheon with the core 20 deities in the original Pathfinder pantheon. I think only half a dozen or so deities are in both pantheons -- and these pantheons exist on the same planet at the same time.

For Starfinder, not only has the timeline been advanced by hundreds or perhaps thousands of years, but the composition of the population of interest has changed greatly. The bulk of the relevant population is mostly non-Golarion aliens, and the relative numbers of six of the core Pathfinder races have dropped considerably. Deities strongly associated with the core Pathfinder races would necessarily drop in importance unless they are for some reason very popular with one or more of the new core races.

So what we really would need to know is which of the already known deities from Pathfinder are no longer granting spells to clerics. My best guess for an answer would be Rovagug, Torag, and a handful of minor deities we do not yet have any information about.

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"We have come to bring the glory of calden cayden to your people! Come partake of his finest gift, the calden brew!

*tentacle snakes out. Pops the can Gluggglug, tentacle starts to twitch wildly. Cue angry phaser blasts *

"another species to whom alchohol is a deadly toxin... RUN AWAAAY


We are probably getting more information about the faiths from each of the Pact World system's planets in their individual articles.

About mechanisms related to the deities...

I'm sure the gods are going to affect the mechanic part of our play, at least through the use of the Mystic class abilities, the Connections.

While they aren't as numerous as the domains, it was said that each deity would be related to a specific connection.

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