Can a spell have a virtual spell level of -1 ?


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Is it legal for a spell to have a virtual spell level of negative one (-1st)?

The official answer to the above will determine whether or not a level 0 spell can be legally chosen as the spell chosen with the magical lineage trait.

This thread is not asking about lowering the total modified spell level below the level of the unmodified spell (it cannot be lowered below - this has clearly been answered in the FAQ). My question has never been given an official answer.

What my search has revealed is many misread/overlook the wording of the magical lineage trait, and interpret it as reading you lower the modified spell level by 1, when the actual wording of the trait clearly states you treat the spell's actual level as 1 lower (before applying the spell level adjustments for the metamagic feats).

I asked people to FAQ it in the general rules forum, to no avail.

I would like an official ruling instead of us having another 5+ years of player debate (which is technically a debate whether or not a spell can have a virtual level of negative 1) regarding if you can choose a 0 level spell with the magical lineage trait.

A link to the rules forum thread is http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ufwm?Magical-Lineage-and-picking-a-level-0-spe ll

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