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Silver Crusade

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Paizo - 1 nominated product
WotC - 1 nominated product
Chaosium - 10 nominated products

Feels like 90s...


I wonders who want to win an Enemy award ? ;)


Enemies?


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DanyRay wrote:
I wonders who want to win an Enemy award ? ;)

I've got a list.

Silver Crusade

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I have one, and it's my phone's autocorrect.


2017 Ennies nominees

Cap'n Yesterday, Evil Overlord wrote:
DanyRay wrote:
I wonders who want to win an Enemy award ? ;)
I've got a list.

Maybe you could steal one of Tammy's?


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Gorbacz wrote:
I have one, and it's my phone's autocorrect.

Typical. Blame the phone.

Grand Lodge

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Gorbacz wrote:

Paizo - 1 nominated product

WotC - 1 nominated product
Chaosium - 10 nominated products

Feels like 90s...

The list:
The ENnies wrote:


Judges’ Spotlight Winners
Rippers Resurrected (Pinnacle Entertainment Group)– Stacy Muth
The Ninja Crusade 2e (Third Eye Games)– Jakub Nowosad
Tales from the Yawning Portal (Wizards of the Coast)– Kayra Keri Küpçü
Coriolis – The Third Horizon (Free League Publishing)– Kurt Wiegel
Broodmother Skyfortress (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)- Reece Carter

Best Adventure
Dragon’s Hoard (Green Ronin)
Doors to Darkness (Chaosium)
The Edom Files (Pelgrane Press)
The Things We Leave Behind (Stygian Fox Publishing)
Blood in the Chocolate (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)

Best Aid/Accessory
13th Age Icon Tokens (Campaign Coins)
Kobold Guide to Plots & Campaigns (Kobold Press)
Zombies!!! Official Board Game Soundtrack (Midnight Syndicate)
Call of Cthulhu – Keeper’s Screen Pack (Chaosium)
Pirate Coins (Norse Foundry, LLC)

Best Art, Cover
7th Sea: Pirate Nations (John Wick Presents)
Call of Cthulhu – Investigator Handbook (Chaosium)
Rifts®: Savage Foes of North America (Pinnacle Entertainment Group)
Blue Rose: The AGE RPG of Romantic Fantasy (Green Ronin)
Torment: Tides of Numenera — The Explorer’s Guide (Monte Cook Games)

Best Art, Interior
Baby Bestiary Handbook Vol 2 (Metal Weave Games)
Tales from the Loop – Roleplaying in the ’80s That Never Was (Free League Publishing)
S. Petersen’s Field Guide to Lovecraftian Horrors (Chaosium)
Gods of the Fall (Monte Cook Games)
Polaris RPG – Core Rulebooks 1 & 2 Deluxe Edition (Black Book Editions)

Best Blog
Loot the Room
Age of Ravens
Gnome Stew: The Gaming Blog
Cyclopedia
dicegeeks

Best Cartography
7th Sea: Map of Théah (John Wick Presents)
Rifts®: North America + Castle Refuge Poster Map (Pinnacle Entertainment Group)
Torment: Tides of Numenera — The Explorer’s Guide (Monte Cook Games)
Call of Cthulhu – Keeper’s Screen Pack (Chaosium)
The Cursed Chateau (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)

Best Electronic Book
The Things We Leave Behind (Stygian Fox Publishing)
Spirit of 77 — A Very Special Episode: Masterpiece 77 (Monkeyfun Studios)
The Cthulhu Hack: The Haunter of the Dark (All Rolled Up)
Hubris: A World of Visceral Adventure (DIY RPG Productions)
Fragment (Imaginary Empire)

Best Family Game
Bubblegumshoe (Evil Hat)
Masks: A New Generation (Magpie Games)
Epyllion: A Dragon Epic (Magpie Games)
Space Pirates the Musical (Orcs Unlimited)
Little Heroes (Mystical Throne Entertainment)

Best Free Product
7th Sea: Basic Rules (John Wick Presents)
City of Mist – Free PDF Starter Set (Son of Oak Game Studio)
Santa is Dead(In Search of Games)
Free RPG Day Flipbook – Swords Against the Dead and The Van Helsing Letter (Pelgrane Press)
Rockerboys & Vending Machines (Encoded Designs)

Best Game
Tales from the Loop – Roleplaying in the ’80s That Never Was (Free League Publishing)
7th Sea: Core Rulebook (John Wick Presents)
Timewatch (Pelgrane Press)
Bubblegumshoe (Evil Hat)
Sins of the Father (Third Eye Games)

Best Miniature Product
D&D Icons of the Realms: Adventurers’ Campsite Premium Set(WizKids)
Achtung! Cthulhu Skirmish: Servitors of Nyarlathotep (Modiphius Entertainment)
Gen Con Legends Miniature Series – Ranger(Games & Gears)
Pathfinder Pawns: Villain Codex Box (Paizo Publishing)
Dungeons & Dragons: Molzur’s Marvelous Miniatures (WizKids)

Best Monster/Adversary
Atlas of Earth-Prime (Green Ronin)
Eclipse Phase: X-Risks (Posthumans Studio)
S. Petersen’s Field Guide to Lovecraftian Horrors (Chaosium)
Veins of the Earth (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)
Fantasy AGE Bestiary (Green Ronin)

Best Podcast
Ken and Robin Talk About Stuff
+1 Forward – A Podcast Powered by the Apocalypse
Spellburn
How to be Great Gamemaster
RPG Academy

Best Production Values
Faith: A Garden in Hell – Starter Set (Burning Games)
Call of Cthulhu – 7th Edition Slipcase Set(Chaosium)
Polaris RPG – Core Rulebooks 1 & 2 Deluxe Edition (Black Book Editions)
Unknown Armies Deluxe Set (Atlas Games)
Baby Bestiary, Collector’s Edition (Metal Weave Games)

Best RPG Related Product
Call of Cthulhu: The Coloring Book (Chaosium)
The ABCs of RPGs (Hunter Books)
Cinema + Sorcery (Green Ronin)
Dark Deeds (Games & Gears)
Kaiju Incorporated Card Game (Evil Hat)

Best Rules
7th Sea: Core Rulebook (John Wick Presents)
Rifts®: Game Master Handbook (Pinnacle Entertainment Group)
Adventures in Middle-Earth Player’s Guide (Cubicle 7 Entertainment)
Veins of the Earth (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)
Bubblegumshoe (Evil Hat)

Best Setting
Tales from the Loop – Roleplaying in the ’80s That Never Was (Free League Publishing)
Torment: Tides of Numenera — The Explorer’s Guide (Monte Cook Games)
Atlas of Earth-Prime (Green Ronin)
The Dark Eye: Aventuria Almanac (Ulisses North America)
Polaris RPG – Core Rulebooks 1 & 2 Deluxe Edition (Black Book Editions)

Best Supplement
The One Ring – Horse-Lords of Rohan(Cubicle 7 Entertainments)
Pulp Cthulhu (Chaosium)
Symbaroum – Advanced Player’s Guide(Järnringen)
Cosmic Handbook (Green Ronin)
7th Sea: Pirate Nations (John Wick Presents)

Best Website
Tribality
Tabletop Audio
Adventureaweek.com
Elven Tower, RPG articles and cartography website
Dungeon Channel

Best Writing
The Book of Changing Years (Pelgrane Press)
Tales from the Loop – Roleplaying in the ’80s That Never Was (Free League Publishing)
Unknown Armies Deluxe Set (Atlas Games)
Veins of the Earth (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)
The One Ring – Horse-Lords of Rohan(Cubicle 7 Entertainments)

Product of the Year
Tales from the Loop – Roleplaying in the ’80s That Never Was (Free League Publishing)
Veins of the Earth (Lamentations of the Flame Princess)
Bubblegumshoe (Evil Hat)
Polaris RPG – Core Rulebooks 1 & 2 Deluxe Edition (Black Book Editions)
7th Sea: Core Rulebook (John Wick Presents)
Rifts®: Game Master Handbook (Pinnacle Entertainment Group)
Doors to Darkness (Chaosium)
Torment: Tides of Numenera — The Explorer’s Guide (Monte Cook Games)
Timewatch (Pelgrane Press)
Atlas of Earth-Prime (Green Ronin)

Paizo submitted the following products for consideration:

Pathfinder Adventure Card Game: Mummy’s Mask Base Set
Pathfinder Adventure Path: Curse of the Crimson Throne
Pathfinder Adventure Path: Ironfang Invasion Player’s Guide
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Path of the Hellknight
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Qadira, Jewel of the East
Pathfinder Module: We B4 Goblins
Pathfinder Pawns: Villain Codex Box
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Bestiary 6
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Horror Adventures
Pathfinder Society Scenario #8-07: From the Tome of Righteous Repose

Really, it's even worse than Gorbacz made it out to be. Paizo's single nomination is for the Pathfinder Battles miniatures; a Wizkids product. Paizo, itself, has zero nominations. One nomination it is. For pawns. One of more of the judges must have a huge boner for Chaosium.

Paizo is nominated for Best Publisher. It's worth noting that Best Publisher nominees, unlike nominees in all the other categories, are not nominated by the judges, but by the general public. It would be kind of funny, and telling, for Paizo to win Best Publisher again this year.

I've been disappointed in the ENnie nominations the last few years, but this year is terrible. The Curse of the Crimson Throne Hardcover isn't considered one of the best adventures put out this year?

Looking back through the last few years, the ENnies have several judges who've served for several years in a row. It's time for some fresh eyes.

-Skeld

Edit: According to Morris, PF Bestiary 6 missed the release cut-off date for consideration this year. It's considered a 2018 release.


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No Aethera Campaign Setting, either. -_-


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Actually, it looks like Paizo has 1 nominated product and its the nom for Best Miniature Product (Pathfinder Pawns: Villain Codex Box) which IS a Paizo product.

WOTC technically has 0 products nominated as Judges’ Spotlight Winners are things specially selected by the judges and not the fans. So that kind of excludes Tales from the Yawning Portal by Wizards of the Coast.


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Actually, seeing the 7th Sea relaunch and Pinnacle's take on RIFTS all over this along with Chaosium, I think the, "It feels like the 90s again!" sentiment is fairly on-point.... the nostalgia cash-in is strong this year.

In other news, go Kobold Press!

Grand Lodge

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ShinHakkaider wrote:

Actually, it looks like Paizo has 1 nominated product and its the nom for Best Miniature Product (Pathfinder Pawns: Villain Codex Box) which IS a Paizo product.

WOTC technically has 0 products nominated as Judges’ Spotlight Winners are things specially selected by the judges and not the fans. So that kind of excludes Tales from the Yawning Portal by Wizards of the Coast.

You're right. I think I saw "Pathfinder," then looked over to the right and inadvertently down one line to "Wizkids."

I'll correct my post. :D

-Skeld

Silver Crusade

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Few years back Ennies got a refresh of judges and the current crowd is ... well, sceptical of D&D and its derivatives, to say at least.


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I stopped paying attention to the Ennies when Rasputin Must Die! didn't win best adventure.

I'm also surprised Paizo didn't nominate In Search of Sanity.

Grand Lodge

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Gorbacz wrote:
Few years back Ennies got a refresh of judges and the current crowd is ... well, sceptical of D&D and its derivatives, to say at least.

All the judges this year have been judges for at least the last 3 years. Some longer.

-Skeld

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Gorbacz wrote:

Paizo - 1 nominated product

WotC - 1 nominated product
Chaosium - 10 nominated products

Feels like 90s...

Paizo got things nominated in the 90's?!?

Also JBE's Book of Heroic Races: Advanced Compendium didn't get nominated. :(

Jon Brazer Enterprises

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Skeld wrote:
Looking back through the last few years, the ENnies have several judges who've served for several years in a row. It's time for some fresh eyes.

Judge nominations are open now and are open for the next 2 days. Be the change you want to see. Apply now.

Sovereign Court

There is a lot of stuff in the noms I have not even heard of. I couldn't really say if they deserve to beat Paizo or not. Just glad to see a lot of active companies working away.

Liberty's Edge

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The fact is that there's a lot of really good stuff out there right now. Almost any nomination list you come up with will have a lot (the majority?) of people thinking there's an egregious omission.

Dark Archive

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Pan wrote:
There is a lot of stuff in the noms I have not even heard of. I couldn't really say if they deserve to beat Paizo or not. Just glad to see a lot of active companies working away.

This is a good thing. Now you might be tempted to check out a few of the other games and maybe purchase a book or two.

I just found it Ironic that the CoC slipcase was nominated considering the total sheet-show that whole kickstarter was.

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Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Looking back through the last few years, the ENnies have several judges who've served for several years in a row. It's time for some fresh eyes.
Judge nominations are open now and are open for the next 2 days. Be the change you want to see. Apply now.

I was an ENnies judge, twice (2010 & 2011). I don't think I qualify as "change."

As much fun as listening to 60 hours of crappy podcasts can be, they really need to make an effort to bring in new judges year-to-year. Of the 5 judges this year, 4 of them have been judges for last 3-4 years. With that long in the seat, you really develop some very entrenched opinions and positions.

However, it looks like they've taken steps to address that: there's a qualification requirement that you can't have been a judge for the past two years. That means almost all the judges should be new.

-Skeld


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Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Looking back through the last few years, the ENnies have several judges who've served for several years in a row. It's time for some fresh eyes.
Judge nominations are open now and are open for the next 2 days. Be the change you want to see. Apply now.

Can I nominate you to nominate yourself? :) I like JBE stuff and you do support multiple platforms (Pathfinder, 5e, Traveler).

I also suggest nominating Robert Brookes to nominate himself.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

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Isabelle Lee wrote:
No Aethera Campaign Setting, either. -_-

Maybe it missed the cutoff for 2017 (similarly to Bestiary 6)? I'm hoping it will be eligible for 2018.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Looking back through the last few years, the ENnies have several judges who've served for several years in a row. It's time for some fresh eyes.
Judge nominations are open now and are open for the next 2 days. Be the change you want to see. Apply now.

Can I nominate you to nominate yourself? :) I like JBE stuff and you do support multiple platforms (Pathfinder, 5e, Traveler).

I also suggest nominating Robert Brookes to nominate himself.

All those podcasts tho...

-Skeld

Jon Brazer Enterprises

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Can I nominate you to nominate yourself? :) I like JBE stuff and you do support multiple platforms (Pathfinder, 5e, Traveler).

Thank you. That really means alot to me, but I cannot. I violate two of the rules.

Ennie Rules wrote:

Disclaimer: All applicants...

- not have any professional relationship with any RPG publisher during the period from January 1st, 2016 to August 1st, 2018.
- must be able to read English and communicate clearly therein.

The first, I have a professional relationship with both my own company and with Paizo (I've written for them a few times and I helped playtest Starfinder).

The second, I do not communicate "clearly" in English. My editors can vouch for that.

I should mention, that I am writing this while listening to Know Direction at work. I listen to lots of podcasts to get me through my boring day job.

Jon Brazer Enterprises

Skeld wrote:
I was an ENnies judge, twice (2010 & 2011). I don't think I qualify as "change."

My bad. I don't think I was applying for Ennies Awards then.

Grand Lodge

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Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Skeld wrote:
I was an ENnies judge, twice (2010 & 2011). I don't think I qualify as "change."
My bad. I don't think I was applying for Ennies Awards then.

No worries. It's been years. :D

-Skeld


Friendly reminder that anyone who places a high value on competitive awards ought to read Stephen Sondheim's Finishing the Hat, particularly his analysis and critique of awards.

I'm not going to try to paraphrase Sondheim, as he is a far more eloquent writer than I am. You know he's a good writer, because of all the awards he has:)


Anyhow, I was personally impressed with Bubblegumshoe, so I'm not surprised at all the nominations it got. I don't think it's my kind of game, though, I just think it is really good at what it does. I was rather underwhelmed by 7th Sea, but I know John Wick has a lot of fans, so I'm not shocked to see it get nominated.


Anyone check out this "Cthulhu Pulp" stuff?

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I think the 2nd edition of 7th Sea is great, personally.

One of the many things about awards like this: whether or not something is good depends in part on personal taste. (Not 100%; some things are going to be more generally considered high quality, and some low quality, even amongst people if disparate taste.)

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137ben wrote:

Friendly reminder that anyone who places a high value on competitive awards ought to read Stephen Sondheim's Finishing the Hat, particularly his analysis and critique of awards.

I'm not going to try to paraphrase Sondheim, as he is a far more eloquent writer than I am. You know he's a good writer, because of all the awards he has:)

I like the Cracked idea that all awards should have a 5 year delay.

Grand Lodge

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Leg o' Lamb wrote:
I just found it Ironic that the CoC slipcase was nominated considering the total sheet-show that whole kickstarter was.

Judge not the product by its production, but by the result.

Dark Archive

Skeld wrote:
One nomination it is. For pawns. One of more of the judges must have a huge boner for Chaosium.

Or just maybe, crazy thought here, Chaosium had a really awesome year. The Kickstarter may have taken longer than scheduled (honestly, does any RPG Kickstarter ever finish on schedule?), but the final product is pretty amazing. And they've continued to support their new edition with great stuff.

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Having been an ENnies judge for a couple years, I know from firsthand experience how one judge can affect the nominations. Get 2 or more judges together who are big fans of a certain product or publisher, and it's very, very hard to keep that publisher/product from getting a high number of nominations. And keep in mind, it's impossible to win an ENnies if you don't get nominated (except for Best Publisher, which if fan nominated).

Something might be "pretty amazing," but having been involved with that process from the inside, it makes me suspect that there were a couple of judges that really wanted Chaosium win some awards. The best way to do that is to stack nominations. (It's worse when you have a judge that has a personal vendetta against a publisher and tries to lock them out of nominations.)

-Skeld

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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For me, Chaosium winning all those awards was much better than anyone else winning that many awards, because know what? They MORE than deserve the recognition and accolades.

Paizo's had plenty of years where we've done well at the ENnies. Seeing other companies do well and reap rewards, ESPECIALLY when said company is one like Chaosium, which all but single-handedly (with a huge assist from Stuart Gordon, of course!) elevated H. P. Lovecraft from relative obscurity into the mainstream over the course of a few decades.

Chaosium's been through a lot, but know what? They're still making great products. They're still here, after all. That's more than can be said for the vast majority of tabletop RPG publishers. Like, say, TSR.

The Exchange

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I'd also add that (independent of the general product quality) smaller publishers need any support they get. And the Ennies are one of the rare opportunities where they can get some spotlight, too

Dark Archive

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Skeld wrote:
it makes me suspect that there were a couple of judges that really wanted Chaosium win some awards.

I suspect this is true. After all, putting out a great product is one way to make sure people want you to win awards.


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Let me just say, as an owner of the Call of Cthulhu slipcase-a-palooza...

It is an incredibly awesome product.

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Shadow Kosh wrote:
Skeld wrote:
it makes me suspect that there were a couple of judges that really wanted Chaosium win some awards.
I suspect this is true. After all, putting out a great product is one way to make sure people want you to win awards.

I'm glad you liked that particular product, but that wasn't really the point of my post, which was about the process and not any specific product.

-Skeld

Dark Archive

Skeld wrote:
Shadow Kosh wrote:
Skeld wrote:
it makes me suspect that there were a couple of judges that really wanted Chaosium win some awards.
I suspect this is true. After all, putting out a great product is one way to make sure people want you to win awards.

I'm glad you liked that particular product, but that wasn't really the point of my post, which was about the process and not any specific product.

-Skeld

Actually, the "product" I was really referring to was essentially everything they have put out under the Call of Cthulhu banner over the past couple of years or so. Chaosium has simply kicked ass over the past couple of years.

Paizo....they are good, but to my mind, nothing over the past year or two really stands out to me. I think part of the problem might be that their releases have become (and have been for quite a while) very formulaic. There's a monthly adventure path, which will be 100 pages, regardless of whether or not the adventure would be better served with more or less pages. There's a glut of player options that's vaguely flavored for the Golarion campaign published in the Player Companion line. Ect, ect, ect. It's very rare that Paizo steps outside of their formula. And I think that can have an effect on people judging these types of things.

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Shadow Kosh wrote:
Skeld wrote:
Shadow Kosh wrote:
Skeld wrote:
it makes me suspect that there were a couple of judges that really wanted Chaosium win some awards.
I suspect this is true. After all, putting out a great product is one way to make sure people want you to win awards.

I'm glad you liked that particular product, but that wasn't really the point of my post, which was about the process and not any specific product.

-Skeld

Actually, the "product" I was really referring to was essentially everything they have put out under the Call of Cthulhu banner over the past couple of years or so. Chaosium has simply kicked ass over the past couple of years.

Paizo....they are good, but to my mind, nothing over the past year or two really stands out to me. I think part of the problem might be that their releases have become (and have been for quite a while) very formulaic. There's a monthly adventure path, which will be 100 pages, regardless of whether or not the adventure would be better served with more or less pages. There's a glut of player options that's vaguely flavored for the Golarion campaign published in the Player Companion line. Ect, ect, ect. It's very rare that Paizo steps outside of their formula. And I think that can have an effect on people judging these types of things.

It doesn't matter how much or little a publisher puts out in a month or a year, judges can only nominate from products that publishers submit for consideration. So, for example, your comment about the "glut of player options that's vaguely flavored for the Golarion campaign published in the Player Companion line" is meaningless since Paizo didn't submit a single Player Companion to the awards.

Having been a person that judged for the ENnies, I can assure you that personal bias has a lot to do with which products get picked versus those that don't.

-Skeld

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Isabelle Lee wrote:
No Aethera Campaign Setting, either. -_-

We submitted it to the ENNies, but no love for Pathfinder products this year (and really for several years now).

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Mike Welham wrote:
Isabelle Lee wrote:
No Aethera Campaign Setting, either. -_-
Maybe it missed the cutoff for 2017 (similarly to Bestiary 6)? I'm hoping it will be eligible for 2018.

Nope, submitted on time. Robert and I discussed whether to submit it for this year as a PDF product or for 2018 as a print book and after some conversation he decided we should submit it for 2017. It was in well in advance but no joy. :(


Over the years what Paizo products have won?

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Jason Nelson wrote:
We submitted it to the ENNies, but no love for Pathfinder products this year (and really for several years now).

I've noticed that as well. I've already submitted off Deadly Delves: The Gilded Gauntlet (the one that EZG yesterday gave a 5-STAR review, Seal of Approval and nominated for his top 10 best for 2017) to the Ennies, giving them months to play it before any serious amount of competitors arrive. If it doesn't even get a nomination, I'm more or less planning to give up on the Ennies altogether as biased against Pathfinder and am strongly considering find a way to organized some kind of Pathfinder Compatible awards (with one of the rules being, all nominations must have a pathfinder compatible logo on the cover).

Frankly, JBE does some freaking awesome work. Legendary Games produces exceptional material. TPK, Kobold, AAW, and many, many more continually blow my mind with how good they are and never receive the recognition they deserve because we all have a Pathfinder logo on the cover. I'm tired of not being taken seriously, so I am of a mind of doiing something about it.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Over the years what Paizo products have won?

there are a lot Here we have them all on the wiki.

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And lookie, some of the winners are even from 2016 or 2014. Which is cool and all (I wouldn't spend my money on Paizo products if I didn't like them so much), but it also makes me think that to accuse them of being biased against Pathfinder just because of one year of not winning anything might be a bit too much
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I mean, really, as much as I like Paizo stuff, there are other publishers out there whose stuff is as good as the stuff Paizo produces. And while I think that some of the Paizo products would have deserved a nomination (CotCT for sure, the Qadira book, Bestiary 6), I do not necessarily see them winning against what I consider very strong opponents.

That Aethera didn't make the cut is a shame, though. Might have stood a better chance as a Campaign Setting entry with the HC, who knows.

P.S. The Kobolds have won several ennies and gotten some more nominations. AaW has already been nomineed. So there has even been recognition of products with the pathfinder logo on them.

I hope I do not come across as too angry, but saying that Paizo/pathfinder products should have won more is simultaneously saying that the actual winners didn't deserve it. When they totally do.

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WormysQueue wrote:
I hope I do not come across as too angry, but saying that Paizo/pathfinder products should have won more is simultaneously saying that the actual winners didn't deserve it. When they totally do.

I hope I don't come across as too bitter. Pathfinder Compatible publishers don't exactly get taken seriously by the society crowd on these boards and I've become sensitive to it. I try to keep it in check, but I fail from time to time.

But I did feel that WotC's TftYP deserved a nomination and instead it got a Judge's Spotlight. Which, (and those that were Ennie's Judges in the past, please correct me if I am wrong) means that that judge felt it was a worthy product to be up there but not enough of the other judges did. Combine that with the fact that no other D&D/Pathfinder roleplaying products (not including the accessories) were nominated this year, makes me believe that enough of the judges were against D&D/Pathfinder as a game system.

That says "biased" to me.

Grand Lodge

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The good news is that the ENnies changed their ules rgarding Judges' tenure and, as a result, 4 of the 5 judges for this coming year are new to the awards. That might shake things up a little.

And Dale is exactly right on the Judges' Spotlight awards. At least when I was involved with them, each judge had te chance to pick a product they liked that otherwise wasn't nominated for anything.

-Skeld

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