Arshea, Sarenrae, and Milani?


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For a friend's campaign, I'm making a character who worships a trio of gods, namely Arshea, Sarenrae, and Milani. I already cleared it with my DM and he rules that I can take anything that requires the worship of any of the three.

Are there any specific feats, traits, or otherwise that would be good to look into, maybe with synergy from the different gods abilities? The character is a Pei Zin Practitioner Oracle of Life to function as a single-classed oradin type character. Note: I plan on having her take Dervish Dance and Flame Blade Dervish, so a few feats are taken up.


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White Hilt wrote:
For a friend's campaign, I'm making a character who worships a trio of gods, namely Arshea, Sarenrae, and Milani.

I am SO ON BOARD for that. I love it!

Though do be mindful of Milani and Sarenrae's rather tense relationship, since Sarenrae's followers don't actively oppose slavery in some countries where they are the largest religion following, and so Milani is outright furious about that. How your character comes to terms with that should be a fairly important aspect of their development. It will be even trickier to decide between Sarenrae's fairly gentle approach to redemption and Milani's fairly unforgiving nature towards oppressors, and particularly those who facilitate, benefit or jsut enable their behaviour (*cough*cult of the dawnflower*cough*). Arshea and Milani, meanwhile, probably get along very well just by merit of having strong ties to each other's domains, although I haven't found any specific mentions.

As for mechanical stuff, there is plenty of stuff for Sarenrae and Milani, but Arshea has almost nothing (no excuse really...at least they have a mystery cultist ability which is great mechanically).

For Milani, there's Beacon of Hope which seems absolutely fantastic for a Life Oracle, and can really boost the impact of channels. Milani is also more militaristic (relish peace, but when the fascists turn up, it's time to pick up the morningstar), so I definitely think having a strong emphasis on getting into the fray is a sound move. Ask if you can get access to Good Hope like a cleric of Milani can as a 3rd level spell so you can more easily wade into the fight before you get Beacon of Hope.

Sarenrae, who has some of the best mechanical stuff for a combatant, obviously doesn't need much introduction. You know the two best choices, and Flame Blade being available to you is pretty great.

Getting Arshea's Celestial Obedience ability allows you to add your Charisma modifier (which hopefully is really high) to your AC as an armour bonus. You can't get that otherwise boosted through enhancement bonuses (I don't think? Maybe Magic Vestment?) but depending on how much Charisma you have, this can be more AC than you would otherwise get from actual armour available to you. This is on top of the other great benefits Arshea provides, such as their spell-like abilities (mirror image!!!), and can make you a better face through their observance.


Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:

Though do be mindful of Milani and Sarenrae's rather tense relationship, since Sarenrae's followers don't actively oppose slavery in some countries where they are the largest religion following, and so Milani is outright furious about that. How your character comes to terms with that should be a fairly important aspect of their development. It will be even trickier to decide between Sarenrae's fairly gentle approach to redemption and Milani's fairly unforgiving nature towards oppressors, and particularly those who facilitate, benefit or jsut enable their behaviour (*cough*cult of the dawnflower*cough*).

Hmm. I didn't realize that slavery thing... That's kinda a wrinkle in the character. Although, I feel many oppressors often fall under the umbrella of 'irredeemable evil,' at least for the fact that the person needs to, at least somewhat, want to be redeemed. If a situation came up where it would be far more beneficial to redeem or kill, I think it would cause a reexamination of beliefs and prayer. Perhaps, as a result of Milani, she could believe oppressive structures and people to be irredeemable until evidence is shown otherwise?

But, besides that, thank you so much for the feats/spells! I win run Good Hope by the DM, but as he let me have Flame Blade like a cleric, I don't think it will be a problem. I will probably relegate Celestial Obedience to level 15 or 17 or earlier if I have space, just so I could fit in the other feats as early as possible.


@White Hilt:

This conflict is more about the difference between "Slavery" and "Indentured Servitude" and the difference between an NG and CG view of it.
Basically, Sarenrae is connected to a culture where paying off dept can be done by going into servitude to "work it off", or apprenticeship has to be paid for with a period of servitude in exchange for that training, and so on.

As this is neither cruel nor a form of unjust punishment, she´s nothing against it, as it is not forced and abused slavery.


So I finally looked up Arshea, and I admit that it wasn't the portfolio I was expecting. Possibly because I keep reading it as Ashera.


Slightly related Milani-specific question:

Milani's favored weapon, the morningstar, isn't the greatest thing ever, or at least I'll say if you have martial weapon proficiency, you have many better options. What would you say is a good martial weapon "equivalent" to a morningstar, if you wanted to be a devout Milanite but still hit folks with something at least marginally better than a table leg? :)

Sovereign Court

a steel terbujte I guess.


Nice catch, thanks!


Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:
White Hilt wrote:
For a friend's campaign, I'm making a character who worships a trio of gods, namely Arshea, Sarenrae, and Milani.

I am SO ON BOARD for that. I love it!

somehow, I knew you would be...


White Hilt wrote:
Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:

Though do be mindful of Milani and Sarenrae's rather tense relationship, since Sarenrae's followers don't actively oppose slavery in some countries where they are the largest religion following, and so Milani is outright furious about that. How your character comes to terms with that should be a fairly important aspect of their development. It will be even trickier to decide between Sarenrae's fairly gentle approach to redemption and Milani's fairly unforgiving nature towards oppressors, and particularly those who facilitate, benefit or jsut enable their behaviour (*cough*cult of the dawnflower*cough*).

Hmm. I didn't realize that slavery thing... That's kinda a wrinkle in the character. Although, I feel many oppressors often fall under the umbrella of 'irredeemable evil,' at least for the fact that the person needs to, at least somewhat, want to be redeemed. If a situation came up where it would be far more beneficial to redeem or kill, I think it would cause a reexamination of beliefs and prayer. Perhaps, as a result of Milani, she could believe oppressive structures and people to be irredeemable until evidence is shown otherwise?

I'm still with you here. The only good alternative I guess I could suggest is maybe Desna? Not sure. Hopefully you can find a good way to get it to work, because it definitely sounds fun to me.

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But, besides that, thank you so much for the feats/spells! I win run Good Hope by the DM, but as he let me have Flame Blade like a cleric, I don't think it will be a problem. I will probably relegate Celestial Obedience to level 15 or 17 or earlier if I have space, just so I could fit in the other feats as early as possible.

Sounds good! You don't get the most of it until 14th, so that sounds like a sound move.

Freehold DM wrote:
somehow, I knew you would be...

Hehehehe.

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