Vildeis and Szuriel


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Okay so I just got bestiary 6 and I was reading Szuriel and couldn't help but think that it feels as though there is a connection with Vildeis. Perhaps just aesthetic but I'm wondering if anyone else has noted it?

So Vildeis is an Angel whore tore who own eyes out at the sight of evil and now wages a fanatical wore on evil throughout the cosmos. Szuriel as the horseman of war has an explicit connection to death in war and as you can imagine is quite the war monger and ex conquering general. So they're both violent, but so are loads of gods *cough cough* Ragathiel, who cares?

Well there are a few other things Szuriel's appearance is that of a conquering angel and she and her worshipers sometimes mock their whole virtue honor glorious holy war schtick, something Vildeis is well into, and finally she bleeds constantly from her eyes...

I mean these could all easily be asthetic similarities put their by coincidence but I just thought they were worth noting.

Two angel or angel like fanatic warmongers demigods who both have permanent eye wounds? >..> suspicious.

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In this case I believe it is just coincidence, Szuriel bleeds from her eyes but they work just fine whereas Vildeis is blind, but her eyes do not bleed.


Thats a shame >.> something there was the potential for something fun there.

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*nods*

Now a Vildeis and Dispater connection on the other hand...

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I wrote up Szuriel prior to Vildeis existing in print, and I wasn't involved with the latter one's creation. Now whoever made Vildeis might have intended some connection, but I couldn't say.

That said, I can absolutely see Szuriel during her pre-Horseman existence as a harbinger subsequently modeling her form to intentionally mock Vildeis. Perhaps a mortal Szuriel might have worshiped Vildeis as a patron saint of sorts prior to her fall from grace and subsequently becoming a genocidal maniac? Actually heck, I'm going with that for my home game. :D

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Hehehe.

Wasn't Szuriel a full on Paladin/Queen while alive as well?

And the religion she was a part of before being excommunicated, shortly followed by wiping it out, was Malek Taus', right?

I could see her "turning" to Vildeis during her slaughtering Crusade, seeing herself justified.

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Rysky wrote:
And the religion she was a part of before being excommunicated, shortly followed by wiping it out, was Malek Taus', right?

:/

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Rysky wrote:

Hehehe.

Wasn't Szuriel a full on Paladin/Queen while alive as well?

And the religion she was a part of before being excommunicated, shortly followed by wiping it out, was Malek Taus', right?

According to legend yes, she started as a paladin, ended up for reasons not specified falling. She subsequently pulled a sort of reverse Paul of Tarsus in the worst way imaginable and gained secular power and tried to wipe out the followers of her former faith.

Lamentation of the Faithless, as a mark of station for whoever holds the position of Horseman of War, vastly predates Szuriel. Obviously the time scale, and the truth about the sword's original celestial owner and their identity is hazy and intentionally undefined.

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Kalindlara wrote:
Rysky wrote:
And the religion she was a part of before being excommunicated, shortly followed by wiping it out, was Malek Taus', right?
:/

Wut?


Szuriel is obviously Vildeis evil twin. All the important empyreal lords have one after all.


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Rysky wrote:


And the religion she was a part of before being excommunicated, shortly followed by wiping it out, was Malek Taus', right?

I thought the same thing. Just... a little more so.

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