Comrade Anklebiter's Fond Farewell to Politrolldom Thread


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Well, I wasn't able to successfully log on for two days, so I just heard the news.

It's been pretty great over the years, but, alas, all things must come to an end.

"Why, Doodlebug," you're asking me, "did you spend so much time on Paizo, a website for fantasy role-playing games, proselytizing for international proletarian socialist revolution?"

Well, it happened organically. Back in 2010 or so me and my mates switched from third edition to Pathfinder and we discovered this website and I became addicted to it. Then, after a while, my players started getting married and having kids and we met less and less often, then Occupy Wall Street happened, and my dormant communist tendencies were reignited and I became less and less interested in campaigning against orcs and more and more interested in campaigning against capitalism, and, every step of the way, there were posters here who were willing to indulge my every (well, most of them anyway) topic of discussion, so, it happened.

Comrade Crystal Seas pm'ed about setting up some kind of off-site political article sharing thingy and I told her I'd make some kind of thread offering up my Facebook page as a way to stay in touch. Maybe we could make a group page if people are interested. Otoh, not everyone is on Facebook, I don't know. Ironically, I don't post much about politics on Facebook. It's too echo chamber-y and, besides, I prefer being a big goblin in a small cave to a miniscule gobbo in a...well, you get the idea.

Anyway, here go:

Mike Gath

(Make sure to include your Paizo handle or I will have no idea who you are)

(It used to be "Commie Mike Gath" a moniker Comrade Omar [RIP] gave me; but Facebook made me change it after a couple of years. Jerks.)

In the meantime, well, it's not farewell like I'll never be back, there's still the books and music threads, but, I imagine my activity will fall off markedly. I mean, I've been supposed to be putting together a Scarred Lands campaign starting with Gallows of Madness for two or three months now and I think I might have to face the fact that, at least for now, I've lost interest in the hobby. (Otoh, I'm hoping to go a local con next month, so, we'll see.)

To wrap up:

Thanks to the staff at Paizo.com for treating me with benign neglect over the past seven or eight years, even if you are a bunch of anti-goblin racists.

Thanks to all the comrades and poltitrolls over the years for making it so much fun: Gark the Goblin, thejeff, Limeylongears, Robert Hawkshaw, The 8th Dwarf (RIP), Citizen K(e)rensky, Yellow Dingo and Lazar X (where ever those three are), thejeff, Ambrosia Slaad, Mean DM, Usagi Yojimbo, Houstonderek, Kirth Gersen, Comrade Freehold, I'm Hiding In Your Closet, Alice Murgatroyd, Dicey, Smarnil le Couard, Guy Humual, Comrade Pravda, Madame Sissyl, Bee Nee, Comrade Fergie, Pan, Kajehase, Comrade Samnell, The White Knife, Bitter Thorn, Bugleyman, Meatrace and a cast of thousands all of whom I can't remember at the moment because I did double-digit hour day in a sweltering 100+ degrees warehouse today and have already drank three Down East ciders (and I sincerely apologize if I forgot you).

And if I ever called you an imperialist stooge, scab, or neoliberal lickspittle, then I apologize (although you probably deserved it) (okay that was a less sincere apology).

Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer/We'll keep the red flag flying here

Vive le Galt!!!


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And my last political post before I leave which I hope Paizo.com will overlook because it's about my girlfriend:

In Defense of [La Principessa], Bankers Should be Slammed!

Pictured with her chocolate lab, Penny, who never shiznits in the house unlike the two f@!#ing mutts I live with now.


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We will miss you. Please stop by every so often to say hello.


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Have fun, and I'll raise a glass for you when the happy-fun communist revolution starts. Just before I send out the counter-revolutionary forces, of course.


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I was thinking of starting a 'Limey's Genuine Farm Machinery Thread Actually About Farm Machinery', where we could discuss the International Combine Harvesterist Revolution, open to all, including Tractorists, Massey-Fergusonists, Massey-Ferguson-Mowerists, Social Demo-(Cattle) Carts, members of the Agricultural Labour Party, LiberCereals and even Chief Expert Farmer Sissyl.

However, a) it'd be a bit of a strain to keep up, b) it'd stop being remotely amusing after about three posts and c), I doubt that Chris would be fooled for very long, so I won't bother.


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No offence taken. Being called an "imperialist stooge" by crypto-trotskysts goblinoid is part of the perk of being a social-democrat.

And, yes, invading Syria in summer 2013 would have been a good idea, when there was still pro-democratic opponents to Al-Assad and still no ISIS (so I guess I still deserve your ravings).

Farewell.


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Bon voyage, mon ami. Although we do not agree on politics, I have enjoyed your company and playing Zombicide and discussing books and other sundries over intoxicants at TotalCon. PM me and we'll figure out a time to grab lunch. Maybe we'll grab the one-eyed orc as well.


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At last, my long wait is over! Now the Off-Topic Discussion Board is mine!

I wish I had something interesting to say. :(

Scarab Sages

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I was wondering how you'd react to the most recent ruling (I'm not 100% sure it will last, we'll see). My condolences.

See you around...like a revolution.

Parting thought: Might "reformation" actually be more radical than "revolution?" The word "revolution" implies history going in a circular motion - I understand that's the common subtext in Latin America, for instance. "Reformation," on the other hand, means taking everything apart and putting it together in an altogether different form. Something new....


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It really is the end of an era then.

To any Paizo goons that might be reading, this is a travesty. I've been political online for a good 20 years and this is the least toxic, most intelligent community I've ever belonged to.

These jerks are like family; yeah you argue about politics and things get heated, but in the end someone still carves the turkey.


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First, I am not a turkey.

Second, NOBODY tries to carve me!


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You did not mention me!

Not that we discuss politics much.

Still. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Besides, come to the alternate history thread. No politics there, and your eye for historical stuff that was missed is always appreciated.


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Sharoth wrote:

First, I am not a turkey.

Second, NOBODY tries to carve me!

tosses knife to NobodysHome

You're on deck.


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What!? What happened?
EDIT: Ahh, nm.


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Yeap, i'm down to music, TV, movies, and occasionally gamer talk. Hope to cross paths with you again sometime gobo.


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I'd be interested in joining a secret group on FB for random pinko posts.

Look for my alias joining up with you

Edit:
I've created the group. PM me if you'd like an invitation


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Freehold DM wrote:

You did not mention me!

Not that we discuss politics much.

Still. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Besides, come to the alternate history thread. No politics there, and your eye for historical stuff that was missed is always appreciated.

"Kirth Gersen, Comrade Freehold, I'm Hiding In Your Closet."


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Patrick Curtin wrote:
Bon voyage, mon ami. Although we do not agree on politics, I have enjoyed your company and playing Zombicide and discussing books and other sundries over intoxicants at TotalCon. PM me and we'll figure out a time to grab lunch. Maybe we'll grab the one-eyed orc as well.

From what I've been able to gather, your schedule has changed quite a bit, but if you're free the weekend of July 22nd and want to live free or die, we have a pull-out couch with your name on it.

Open Gaming Convention

I'll have to contact the G-man, too.


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And, just for clarification, this is just a Fond Farewell to Politrolldom and a thanks to the comrades and politrolls.

I am way too invested in the Good Books thread and ocd-like posting about every record I listen to in the music threads for a complete disappearing act.

Off to work now, so I'll check in with what Comrade Seas has worked up tonight.


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

You did not mention me!

Not that we discuss politics much.

Still. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Besides, come to the alternate history thread. No politics there, and your eye for historical stuff that was missed is always appreciated.

"Kirth Gersen, Comrade Freehold, I'm Hiding In Your Closet."

I honestly thought there was someone named Comrade Freehold, possibly as an alias.

Egg on my face.


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Yeah, not really happy about the loss of politics talk. I understand it was too much work for them, but despite the grar, this was a good place for such discussions. Challenging, with differing viewpoints, but mostly civil - partly because of the moderation.

Sad to see you go, assuming you really do drift away. Good luck with the whole socialist revolution thing.

And honored to make the list twice :)


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A final salute to the Revolutionary Vanguard Goblin Party and a halfling roasted over every gobbo fire.


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PM me to connect on Facebook and be invited to the secret group In Honor Of Comrade Anklebiter


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I don't Facebook, but hope you folks take over the world.


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World's most interesting Pan wrote:
I don't Facebook, but hope you folks take over the world.

See, that was my first thought as well.

Is there a better place fo set up an information-sharing thread? first thought of Google Groups, but I'm open to suggestions


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Sorry to see this happen. May our mods breathe easier, and may you (and others!) find a good venue for your conversations!

Prayers and best wishes, Comrade.


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I just did a Friend Request, with my real name:

Movie plot spoiler:
Morgan Churchill


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The world has no shortage of homogeneous messageboards devoid of measured political discussion; it's sad to see this become one of them. :(


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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Bon voyage, mon ami. Although we do not agree on politics, I have enjoyed your company and playing Zombicide and discussing books and other sundries over intoxicants at TotalCon. PM me and we'll figure out a time to grab lunch. Maybe we'll grab the one-eyed orc as well.

From what I've been able to gather, your schedule has changed quite a bit, but if you're free the weekend of July 22nd and want to live free or die, we have a pull-out couch with your name on it.

Open Gaming Convention

I'll have to contact the G-man, too.

Dude I'm there. We'll figure out the deets, via PM. I'd love to take a tour of the Granite State


Huzzah!


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*looks off in the distance as a single tear rolls down his cheek*


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Be safe out there, Comrade.

The proletariat needs intelligent advocates, not dead martyrs or misguided violence. Your insightful and informative thread was more weight to intelligent advocacy of the worker's rights and the dangers that workers face, and it will be sorely missed.

Sovereign Court

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Farewell, Comrade.


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Dasvidania


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Take care, Comrade.


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Do svidaniya, comrade!


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Stay loose and keep fighting the good fight! Huzzah!


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Happy trails, Fellow Goblin Enthusiast!


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Goodbye then (unlike yourself, I'm not sure the Books thread is enough to keep me around).

Sovereign Court

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I'm also sad to see the political discussion disappear, we didn't always agree but I always found your posts interesting, and I don't like the idea of living in an echo chamber. Having ideas contrary or just different to my own has always been useful for shaping my own thoughts and opinions. I think we all need to occasionally question why it is we believe the things we believe. I suppose I understand the need to shut those discussions down if they're becoming extremely problematic, I mean this is a gaming site and policing political discussions isn't what they want to be spending their time doing. However, like you, I probably won't be posting much without something interesting to talk about.

I will suggest though that there weren't that many problematic posters, rather just a few, on both sides, that seemed to take things a bit far. It seems kind of sad to see something ending because of a few people that didn't understand how to debate and discuss things civilly. However, these are pretty troubling times, and I can understand these discussions getting very serious and thus it's understandable for the folks at Pazio to want to opt out.

Anyways, take care Comrade Anklebiter, I don't think you'll be gone from the site forever, so I'll just say "till we meet again," and wish you the best on future endeavors. There's far worse things, I suppose, then not being able to talk politics, but it sure was one of the more fun things to do over here on Paizo.


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It's a darn shame the thread had to be closed, since it means that now I don't have a good place to share these examples of passages from Das Kapital translated into Scots-English.


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Tangentially...a question for red Brits and and/or anglophiles:

I recently pulled out a 2000ish Mekons record that I bought years ago and never really listened to and, like most Mekons records, it has one song/essay on Britishiznoid radical history:

The Queen of Holland went to meet Red Ken
With the Ranters and the Quakers and the Fabians
William Blake, William Morris, Tony Benn
The Levellers and the Diggers and the Muggletonians

I did have to refresh my limited knowledge of nonconformist sects to get the Muggletonians, but I have no idea what the first line means.

Anyone?


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

Tangentially...a question for red Brits and and/or anglophiles:

I recently pulled out a 2000ish Mekons record that I bought years ago and never really listened to and, like most Mekons records, it has one song/essay on Britishiznoid radical history:

The Queen of Holland went to meet Red Ken
With the Ranters and the Quakers and the Fabians
William Blake, William Morris, Tony Benn
The Levellers and the Diggers and the Muggletonians

I did have to refresh my limited knowledge of nonconformist sects to get the Muggletonians, but I have no idea what the first line means.

Anyone?

Red Ken's probably the former Mayor of London, but I don't know of a "Queen of Holland" connection. Or even of any radical Queen of Holland connection.


The only thing that I can find is that, according to the wikipedia page for one Henricus Sneevliet (Dutch commie), Princess (later Queen) Juliana used to hang out with commies in the thirties, but she abdicated in 1980 and Livingstone didn't become mayor of London until 2000...so, I don't know if that means anything.


Ken was also head of the Greater London Council in the '80s - after Labour won the election in 1981, according to Wikipedia. Not much help, but there you go.

Sovereign Court

The only thing I can think to add is that there's two cities of London, the sprawling Greater City of London, and the smaller City of London that was built by the Romans at the Greater City's center. The City of London is essentially a corporation and maintains a level of autonomy from not only the rest of the city, but to some extent, from the rest of the country thanks to ancient treaties. Basically the Lord Mayor of the City of London would be in control of the Greater City of London's financial heart.

Also, when William of Orange was invited over to replace James II, it was done in secret. This was done because James II was thought to be Catholic but his daughter, William's wife, Mary, was Protestant. William and Mary were made co-regnant of the UK after the invasion. William was, Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland, and Overijssel in the Dutch Republic from 1672, and King of England, Ireland, and Scotland from 1689 until his death. One of the seven people to invite William of Orange to invade was the Bishop of London.

Not sure if any of that helps


I considered a possible Glorious Revolution connection, but it didn't seem to fit the mold of the other references in the verse.

[Shrugs]

I'll take it to Facebook, I guess.

Sovereign Court

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The other thing is it might be a homage to the more famous song "Jerusalem", England's unofficial anthem, which asks the question did Jesus visit England in those missing years. It was written by William Blake


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In other news, Patrick Curtin came up on Saturday to attend Open Gaming Convention with me. The Black Goblin stood me up and Mr. Comrade and I decided that he should go to the DSA party instead. Special thanks to my former players, the Royals and Son, for all their help! I probably would never have found any games if it weren't for them! Huzzah!

Didn't get into any PFS like I would have preferred, but we did get to play in an XCrawl game where we gladiators in a United States ruled by a Roman Empire that never fell ruled over by Reagan Maximus.

I got to exercise my role playing abilities by repeatedly shouting out things like "May the invisible hand of capitalism guide my shot!" and "I'ma gonna make the blood trickle down your face!"

Was also proud of myself that I made the autistic, socially disengaged kid at the table happy when we encouraged him to finish off a lizard man and he decided to rip its throat out with his teeth. I think it was the only real smile I saw on the kid's face all session.

After that, we played a game called Cthulu-Doobie-Doo-Clue in which the Mystery, Inc. gang and the characters from Clue teamed up to investigate the death of Mr. Boddy. I was a bit disappointed because there wasn't much (any, IIRC) Cthulu Mythos involved, but I guess that was our own fault because we neutralized the ravings of poor Mrs. White with a soporific Scooby snack.

I was Ms. Scarlett (Patrick was Fred and Mr. Royal was Shaggy) and I like to think that my best line was, after discovering Mr. Boddy's lawyer was taken out by being poisoned with peanut butter, and then discovering that Mr. Boddy had a nut allergy, in an outrageous Southern belle accent: "Honey, I'm from Georgia, and if there's one thing we know in Georgia, it's that a peanut is not a nut, it's a legume."

Was thrilled, after the game was over, to discover that some of the other players were terrified by my character because I kept disappearing and doing stuff on my own, but I was only popping into the kitchen to make and deliver cucumber sandwiches after we weren't able to finish our lunch (peanut butter poisoning of the lawyer and all). It's called Southern hospitality!

Anyway, fun times to be had. Didn't really respark my desire to run a campaign, but, perversely, Mr. Comrade listened to my con stories and now he's all a tizzy and wants to run a Cthulu game.

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