Looking for a sword that looks like Kadaj's Souba from Final Fantasy VII Advent Children.


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This sword. It's been bugging me that I can't find anything like it, (mostly because "double bladed" gives you swords that have a blade at both ends of the hilt,) so I was wondering if y'all knew of a weapon like this in Pathfinder.


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There's no real one, as Kadaj's sword probably a bit unwieldy with twice the surface area to cut through. You may want to look at a Rhoka. That's probably as close as you'll get, description-wise.

Scarab Sages

The Rhoka is the only two bladed sword that I'm aware of that isn't the Darth Maul version. I'd you don't mind a shorter option, there is the quadrens, which is the roman gladiator weapon that is four spikes used for stabbing.


The Rhoka will work I guess. Thanks for the help.


It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.


Dark Midian wrote:
It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.

Actually, it's an unwieldy, two-bladed katana that is easier to disarm your opponent with, due to being able to catch their blade in between the two blades. Also, it would be easier to inflict lasting wounds, in theory, due to how close the two blades are, thus causing injuries that have a harder time healing. Sure you can't cut as efficiently with it, but that is not a problem in the realm of fiction, as rule of cool trumps the surface area rule for cutting power.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Dark Midian wrote:
It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.
Actually, it's an unwieldy, two-bladed katana that is easier to disarm your opponent with, due to being able to catch their blade in between the two blades. Also, it would be easier to inflict lasting wounds, in theory, due to how close the two blades are, thus causing injuries that have a harder time healing. Sure you can't cut as efficiently with it, but that is not a problem in the realm of fiction, as rule of cool trumps the surface area rule for cutting power.

The blades are too close together to be used for any sort of disarming. Some weapons, due to their shape, would never fit between the two blades at all. A weapon like a sword would take a miracle to end up between those two blades.


Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Dark Midian wrote:
It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.
Actually, it's an unwieldy, two-bladed katana that is easier to disarm your opponent with, due to being able to catch their blade in between the two blades. Also, it would be easier to inflict lasting wounds, in theory, due to how close the two blades are, thus causing injuries that have a harder time healing. Sure you can't cut as efficiently with it, but that is not a problem in the realm of fiction, as rule of cool trumps the surface area rule for cutting power.

It being heavy and unwieldy would make it harder to disarm your opponent with.

Grand Lodge

2 blades close together like that is pure disadvantage from a combat point of view. The increased surface tension while cutting would make the blades less effective, and they are too close together to be viable for disarming anyone, not to mention doubling the weight, and the fact that there is no way you could have a full tang extending through the handle, so the blades would just snap off during a heavy hit.

100% Pure, Grade A, Anime fantasy junk...I suppose it looks kinda neat on screen though.

Final Fantasy has always been bad about making ridiculous and useless weapons...like Cloud's 100 pound Buster Sword, or Sephiroth's 14 foot long katana.

Kind of reminds me of the completely impractical 3 bladed sword from the old movie The Sword and the Sorcerer.So awesome!


Saldiven wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Dark Midian wrote:
It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.
Actually, it's an unwieldy, two-bladed katana that is easier to disarm your opponent with, due to being able to catch their blade in between the two blades. Also, it would be easier to inflict lasting wounds, in theory, due to how close the two blades are, thus causing injuries that have a harder time healing. Sure you can't cut as efficiently with it, but that is not a problem in the realm of fiction, as rule of cool trumps the surface area rule for cutting power.
The blades are too close together to be used for any sort of disarming. Some weapons, due to their shape, would never fit between the two blades at all. A weapon like a sword would take a miracle to end up between those two blades.

No they aren't. In fact, the character did it to Cloud's Fusion Swords in the film, which is basically a greatsword.

Athaleon wrote:
Reksew_Trebla wrote:
Dark Midian wrote:
It's basically just an unwieldy, two-bladed katana. You would literally gain no mechanical advantages from it.
Actually, it's an unwieldy, two-bladed katana that is easier to disarm your opponent with, due to being able to catch their blade in between the two blades. Also, it would be easier to inflict lasting wounds, in theory, due to how close the two blades are, thus causing injuries that have a harder time healing. Sure you can't cut as efficiently with it, but that is not a problem in the realm of fiction, as rule of cool trumps the surface area rule for cutting power.
It being heavy and unwieldy would make it harder to disarm your opponent with.

This is fiction. If it wasn't, the fact it's a katana would mean it would break practically every time it struck full force against another sword, because katanas have awful durability. Hell, real world katanas blunt themselves if you store them blade side down. So no, it isn't going to be harder to disarm your opponent with it.

Grand Lodge

Anime physics are nothing like either Pathfinder physics or real world physics.

The characters in that movie can also make standing leaps a mile into the air, get shot off the top of a skyscraper and stand up with no injuries, and hundreds of other ridiculous things. If you want game play like that, you are playing the wrong game.


Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:

Anime physics are nothing like either Pathfinder physics or real world physics.

The characters in that movie can also make standing leaps a mile into the air, get shot off the top of a skyscraper and stand up with no injuries, and hundreds of other ridiculous things. If you want game play like that, you are playing the wrong game.

Actuallllly: There are a few kineticist elements that get bonuses to jump checks, there's a feat that gives you a bonus to jump checks if you want to play an elemental annihilator for the 2h factor. Yeah.


Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:

Anime physics are nothing like either Pathfinder physics or real world physics.

The characters in that movie can also make standing leaps a mile into the air, get shot off the top of a skyscraper and stand up with no injuries, and hundreds of other ridiculous things. If you want game play like that, you are playing the wrong game.

You obviously are a novice at pathfinder if you think pathfinder is less ridiculous than those examples. For instance, a level 2 barbarian character can stay in outer space for one minute, start falling down to the ground, and then stand up only having taken 18 points of damage if he lands in water, or 20 points if he lands on the ground.

But let's ignore that and pretend that falling off a skyscraper unharmed is more ridiculous than pathfinder, because that make sense somehow.

EDIT: Oh and jumping a mile into the air, that's cute. In Pathfinder, you can jump over 500 miles. Source.

Grand Lodge

If you sacrifice the ability to do anything useful, you can cheese the rules to pull off plenty of ridiculous stunts, especially if you start throwing in the mythic rules.

Everything about most anime, (and Final Fantasy in particular) is pushed to the extreme limit...ridiculous weapons, insane powers, etc. Which is fine...if you want to watch/play anime.

Back to the sword in question though, it is completely impractical, and would not work at all like the anime...it would be super fragile, it would not cut as well as a standard single blade sword, it would be twice the weight and very unwieldy, using it to capture another blade in between the 2 blades would be incredibly difficult (at best), and if it had a sheath/scabbard, it would be utterly ridiculous looking because of how bulky it would have to be to contain both blades.

There is a reason there is no real world equivalent. Even anime and fantasy movies have avoided it other than FF and the kind of similar 3 bladed sword from Sword and Sorcerer.


I found this homebrew 3.5 material related to the Souba:

One-Handed Exotic Melee Weapon
4lbs.
2d6 Slashing Damage
19-20/x2
Disarm quality (+2 to Disarm)

I'd recommend dropping the damage to 1d10.

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