Losing the Phantom Blade


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Just as the title says, what happens when a spiritualist loses their phantom blade entirely? Like being dropped in the ocean for example? A black blade magus can forge a new blade, but how does the process work for a spiritualist?
And while we're at it, since it's not considered a phantom does that mean it retains its form when you're unconscious?

Silver Crusade

First level ability:

Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom blade can harbor her phantom weapon in her consciousness or manifest it in its ectoplasmic form. The phantom blade can manifest the weapon through a ritual that takes 1 minute to perform. Harboring the phantom weapon requires a full-round action.

I'd say it stays out unless you harbor it.


Rysky wrote:
First level ability:
Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom blade can harbor her phantom weapon in her consciousness or manifest it in its ectoplasmic form. The phantom blade can manifest the weapon through a ritual that takes 1 minute to perform. Harboring the phantom weapon requires a full-round action.
I'd say it stays out unless you harbor it.

Makes sense, but there doesn't seem to be any information on what to do if you lose the weapon entirely, like how the Black Blade Magus can forge a new weapon, or classes with animal companions can eventually find a new companion after a set period

Scarab Sages

Interesting question. It doesn't really matter for me, because if I was going to play a phantom blade, it would be unarmed.

Silver Crusade

Dirk Greenlees wrote:
Rysky wrote:
First level ability:
Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom blade can harbor her phantom weapon in her consciousness or manifest it in its ectoplasmic form. The phantom blade can manifest the weapon through a ritual that takes 1 minute to perform. Harboring the phantom weapon requires a full-round action.
I'd say it stays out unless you harbor it.
Makes sense, but there doesn't seem to be any information on what to do if you lose the weapon entirely, like how the Black Blade Magus can forge a new weapon, or classes with animal companions can eventually find a new companion after a set period

That's because there's no way to lose it. There's no maximum distance for harboring the Blade. And there's this as well:

Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom weapon also recovers a number of hit points equal to its ego score every hour that it is harbored.

So outside of GM fiat there's no way to ever lose your Blade.


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Well, the rule for harboring the blade doesn't specify a range limit. In theory, your blade could be thousands of miles away on another plane and you could still harbor it.

Edit: Ninjaed!


Is there a range on "Weapon of the Mind"?

If there weren't, this wouldn't replace Etheric Tether because that gets you your weapon as a swift action versus a full round action plus additional actions.

I could see a case for "your phantom blade doesn't like being at the bottom of the ocean so will allow you to harbor it from anywhere."


Rysky wrote:
Dirk Greenlees wrote:
Rysky wrote:
First level ability:
Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom blade can harbor her phantom weapon in her consciousness or manifest it in its ectoplasmic form. The phantom blade can manifest the weapon through a ritual that takes 1 minute to perform. Harboring the phantom weapon requires a full-round action.
I'd say it stays out unless you harbor it.
Makes sense, but there doesn't seem to be any information on what to do if you lose the weapon entirely, like how the Black Blade Magus can forge a new weapon, or classes with animal companions can eventually find a new companion after a set period

That's because there's no way to lose it. There's no maximum distance for harboring the Blade. And there's this as well:

Weapon of the Mind (Ex) wrote:
The phantom weapon also recovers a number of hit points equal to its ego score every hour that it is harbored.
So outside of GM fiat there's no way to ever lose your Blade.

Oh. I got it into my head that the blade needed to be close at hand to harbor it, but there's nothing to support that conclusion. That wraps covers my queries rather neatly. Thanks a bunch


PossibleCabbage wrote:

Is there a range on "Weapon of the Mind"?

If there weren't, this wouldn't replace Etheric Tether because that gets you your weapon as a swift action versus a full round action plus additional actions.

I could see a case for "your phantom blade doesn't like being at the bottom of the ocean so will allow you to harbor it from anywhere."

I like the logic. What sentient weapon wants to be at the bottom of the ocean? Those are suboptimal conditions for your wielder to stab other guys in the face

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