paizo.com Recent Posts in iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightpaizo.com Recent Posts in iZombie has a D&D episode on tonight2018-05-08T01:05:52Z2018-05-08T01:05:52ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightScythiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#202017-06-04T05:58:14Z2017-06-04T05:58:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote>I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.</blockquote><p>I've known people who do that from time, but with actual physical dice. No different from flipping a coin, aside from allowing for multiple answers (such as which of these three restaurants is better for dinner). Really, it's comparable to using a magic 8 ball (which I've also seen people consult for inconsequential choices).JoelF847 wrote:I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.
I've known people who do that from time, but with actual physical dice. No different from flipping a coin, aside from allowing for multiple answers (such as which of these three restaurants is better for dinner). Really, it's comparable to using a magic 8 ball (which I've also seen people consult for inconsequential choices).Scythia2017-06-04T05:58:14ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightSmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#192017-06-03T14:40:10Z2017-06-03T14:40:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Duncan7291 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">SmiloDan wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Duncan7291 wrote:</div><blockquote> I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;) </blockquote>Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. </blockquote><p>Never forget <b>Carlos the Dwarf</b> from <i>Freaks & Geeks</i>!!!
<p></blockquote>Never watched it. Guess I'll have to do a little Netflix watching. </blockquote><p>Freaks and Geeks is amazing! It's super cringe-worthy comedy gold.Duncan7291 wrote:SmiloDan wrote: JoelF847 wrote: Duncan7291 wrote: I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)
Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. Never forget Carlos the Dwarf from Freaks & Geeks!!! Never watched it. Guess I'll have to do a little Netflix watching. Freaks and Geeks is amazing! It's super cringe-worthy comedy gold.SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2017-06-03T14:40:10ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightDuncan7291https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#182017-06-03T17:53:37Z2017-06-03T13:20:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">SmiloDan wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Duncan7291 wrote:</div><blockquote> I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;) </blockquote>Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. </blockquote><p>Never forget <b>Carlos the Dwarf</b> from <i>Freaks & Geeks</i>!!!
<p></blockquote><p>Never watched it. Guess I'll have to do a little Netflix watching.SmiloDan wrote:JoelF847 wrote: Duncan7291 wrote: I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)
Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. Never forget Carlos the Dwarf from Freaks & Geeks!!! Never watched it. Guess I'll have to do a little Netflix watching.Duncan72912017-06-03T13:20:11ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightphantom1592https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#172017-06-03T17:53:33Z2017-06-03T09:23:59Z<p>Huh... I think those were my kingmaker Paladin dice!! </p>
<p>Awesome :)</p>Huh... I think those were my kingmaker Paladin dice!!
Awesome :)phantom15922017-06-03T09:23:59ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightJohn Kretzerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#162017-06-03T17:53:24Z2017-06-03T08:06:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Damon Griffin wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Very happy to see no references to "7th level Gnomes" and whatnot. D&D nitpicks:</p>
<p>•Paladin nodding approval of drow assassin's plan to skip the quest and take the old lady's stuff up front. Perfectly fine for Major to be cool with it, since he's completely unfamiliar with the game, but Dungeon Master Liv should have called him on it.</p>
<p>•DM rolling dice for PC's skill checks.</p>
<p>•Liv rolling a d20 for something that called for a percentile check. Yeah, sure, as long as the probability is divisible by 5 it works, but Real Gamers roll percentile dice.</p>
<p>Two hours to make characters? With new players who don't have their own books. I buy that. I've been there.</p>
<p>It was nice that Clive got into it by the end of the game session, but meaningless since I'm sure we'll never see another reference to the game on the show.</p>
<p></blockquote><p>Actually there was a earlier reference to D&D in a episode. When the crime boss was about to kill somebody he made a reference to when he was a DM he used to give his players a God shot.
<p>I over all liked the episode.</p>Damon Griffin wrote:Very happy to see no references to "7th level Gnomes" and whatnot. D&D nitpicks:
*Paladin nodding approval of drow assassin's plan to skip the quest and take the old lady's stuff up front. Perfectly fine for Major to be cool with it, since he's completely unfamiliar with the game, but Dungeon Master Liv should have called him on it.
*DM rolling dice for PC's skill checks.
*Liv rolling a d20 for something that called for a percentile check. Yeah, sure, as long as the...John Kretzer2017-06-03T08:06:40ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightSmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#152017-06-03T04:26:00Z2017-06-03T04:26:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Duncan7291 wrote:</div><blockquote> I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;) </blockquote>Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. </blockquote><p>Never forget <b>Carlos the Dwarf</b> from <i>Freaks & Geeks</i>!!!JoelF847 wrote:Duncan7291 wrote: I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)
Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on. Never forget Carlos the Dwarf from Freaks & Geeks!!!SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2017-06-03T04:26:00ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightJoelF847 (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#142017-06-03T23:40:21Z2017-06-03T04:18:55Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Duncan7291 wrote:</div><blockquote> I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;) </blockquote><p>Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on.Duncan7291 wrote:I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)
Community's D&D episode was the bar to judge all others on.JoelF847 (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16)2017-06-03T04:18:55ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightDuncan7291https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#132017-06-03T05:26:57Z2017-06-03T03:40:55Z<p>I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)</p>I like the show and liked the episode. Only better representation of DnD is Dresden files ;)Duncan72912017-06-03T03:40:55ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightSmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#122017-06-03T05:26:53Z2017-06-03T03:36:02Z<p>I like how it's a combo of Buffy and Veronica Mars minus the teenage angst.</p>I like how it's a combo of Buffy and Veronica Mars minus the teenage angst.SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2017-06-03T03:36:02ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightDamon Griffinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#112017-06-03T05:26:36Z2017-06-03T03:31:35Z<p>Very happy to see no references to "7th level Gnomes" and whatnot. D&D nitpicks:</p>
<p>•Paladin nodding approval of drow assassin's plan to skip the quest and take the old lady's stuff up front. Perfectly fine for Major to be cool with it, since he's completely unfamiliar with the game, but Dungeon Master Liv should have called him on it.</p>
<p>•DM rolling dice for PC's skill checks.</p>
<p>•Liv rolling a d20 for something that called for a percentile check. Yeah, sure, as long as the probability is divisible by 5 it works, but Real Gamers roll percentile dice.</p>
<p>Two hours to make characters? With new players who don't have their own books. I buy that. I've been there.</p>
<p>It was nice that Clive got into it by the end of the game session, but meaningless since I'm sure we'll never see another reference to the game on the show.</p>Very happy to see no references to "7th level Gnomes" and whatnot. D&D nitpicks:
*Paladin nodding approval of drow assassin's plan to skip the quest and take the old lady's stuff up front. Perfectly fine for Major to be cool with it, since he's completely unfamiliar with the game, but Dungeon Master Liv should have called him on it.
*DM rolling dice for PC's skill checks.
*Liv rolling a d20 for something that called for a percentile check. Yeah, sure, as long as the probability is...Damon Griffin2017-06-03T03:31:35ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightTacticslionhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#102017-06-03T02:45:39Z2017-06-03T02:45:39Z<p>That's super fair.</p>
<p>I actually preferred the case-of-the-week format of Season 1 to the forced-drama-character-change of Season 2 (and I was suuuuuuuuuper ticked by the <spoiler>• of Liv's relationship(s)), but I've not seen S3 (as I've only got Netflix), so that might just be a me thing. </p>
<p>Over-all, I highly enjoyed this series more than I thought I <i>should</i> be enjoying this series. </p>
<p>There are lots of little quirks about the show that bother me: Liv's over-exaggeration being one (<span class=messageboard-ooc>though, on the other hand, it makes a certain amount of sense, as she's experiencing the impulses and nature new, for the first time, and has not had the chance to live her life under the paradigm the ones she's eaten have, so... conflicted, as noted</span>). </p>
<p>I also have <i>no</i> idea how they're going to manage the cliffhanger for Season 2. That was... hm. ANYway...</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>That's super fair.
I actually preferred the case-of-the-week format of Season 1 to the forced-drama-character-change of Season 2 (and I was suuuuuuuuuper ticked by the * of Liv's relationship(s)), but I've not seen S3 (as I've only got Netflix), so that might just be a me thing.
Over-all, I highly enjoyed this series more than I thought I should be enjoying this series.
There are lots of little quirks about the show that bother me: Liv's over-exaggeration being one (though, on the other...Tacticslion2017-06-03T02:45:39ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightMMCJawahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#92017-06-03T02:30:58Z2017-06-03T02:25:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tacticslion wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote> I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.</blockquote><p>One thing about the show, is that it's clear that Liv doesn't live the life of the person she's channeling - she's living a <i>caricature</i> of that person's life. It's actually a really fascinating thing: if a person was lecherous, she's out of control casual flirt, even when said entity had more self-control or a more suave or nuanced countenance in public. If a person was malevolent, Liv simply channels broad vitriol, failing to latch onto that person's true personality.
<p>That's one thing the show does that I feel conflicted about: Liv becomes so consumed with whatever quirk or passion or vice or skill a given entity had, she becomes a kind of caricature of that person for the time she channels them. In some ways it helps ease any portrayal of things like this - in others... notsomuch. In any event, I'm super hyped for when this (and all the next episodes) get(s) to Netflix! </blockquote><p>Yep...I tend to have that problem with the show at times as well.
<p>Mostly I think I am just tired of the case of the week format for the show. It's been mostly boring of late, and usually they tend to all feel somewhat similar (a@•$$•+ victim killed by a sympathetic killer who was wronged by said victim). It also means the background plots get stretched out way way too far.</p>Tacticslion wrote:JoelF847 wrote: I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.
One thing about the show, is that it's clear that Liv doesn't live the life of the person she's channeling - she's living a caricature of that person's life. It's actually a really fascinating thing: if a person was lecherous, she's out of control casual flirt, even when said entity had more self-control or a more...MMCJawa2017-06-03T02:25:27ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightSmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#82017-06-03T02:30:49Z2017-06-03T00:46:53Z<p>I would love to see D&D players portrayed as obsessed with power gaming/game theory, etc., AND really bad Star Wars puns ("These are not the druids you are looking for.").</p>I would love to see D&D players portrayed as obsessed with power gaming/game theory, etc., AND really bad Star Wars puns ("These are not the druids you are looking for.").SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2017-06-03T00:46:53ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightRobert Littlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#72017-06-03T02:30:42Z2017-06-03T00:27:59Z<p>Most CW shows are on Netflix within a week of the season ending now.</p>Most CW shows are on Netflix within a week of the season ending now.Robert Little2017-06-03T00:27:59ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightGreylurkerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#62017-06-03T02:30:41Z2017-06-03T00:13:52Z<p>Finding the new season on Netflix was a nice surprise</p>Finding the new season on Netflix was a nice surpriseGreylurker2017-06-03T00:13:52ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightTacticslionhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#52017-06-02T23:49:53Z2017-06-02T23:49:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">JoelF847 wrote:</div><blockquote> I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.</blockquote><p>One thing about the show, is that it's clear that Liv doesn't live the life of the person she's channeling - she's living a <i>caricature</i> of that person's life. It's actually a really fascinating thing: if a person was lecherous, she's out of control casual flirt, even when said entity had more self-control or a more suave or nuanced countenance in public. If a person was malevolent, Liv simply channels broad vitriol, failing to latch onto that person's true personality.
<p>That's one thing the show does that I feel conflicted about: Liv becomes so consumed with whatever quirk or passion or vice or skill a given entity had, she becomes a kind of caricature of that person for the time she channels them. In some ways it helps ease any portrayal of things like this - in others... notsomuch. In any event, I'm super hyped for when this (and all the next episodes) get(s) to Netflix!</p>JoelF847 wrote:I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby.
One thing about the show, is that it's clear that Liv doesn't live the life of the person she's channeling - she's living a caricature of that person's life. It's actually a really fascinating thing: if a person was lecherous, she's out of control casual flirt, even when said entity had more self-control or a more suave or nuanced...Tacticslion2017-06-02T23:49:53ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightJoelF847 (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#42017-06-02T23:44:36Z2017-06-02T23:42:23Z<p>They had a few places with Liv or the dead guy of the week rolled character's saving throws.</p>
<p>I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby. The scene when all of the characters from the show played a game together was a lot of fun though.</p>They had a few places with Liv or the dead guy of the week rolled character's saving throws.
I also wasn't a fan of Liv of DnD brain rolling dice to determine what she did while not playing. I felt that was a bit too mocking of the hobby. The scene when all of the characters from the show played a game together was a lot of fun though.JoelF847 (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16)2017-06-02T23:42:23ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightMMCJawahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#32017-06-02T23:44:06Z2017-06-02T19:27:56Z<p>That was actually one of the best representations of DnD I have seen on TV. They actually had...SHOCKER...players rolling dice (in portrayals in Big Bang Theory and Community I think only the DM ever rolled dice) and complaining about taking 2 hours to fill out a character sheet. </p>
<p>Also pretty positive...one of the characters was endlessy mocking DnD but at the end of game was stoked on making it a weekly thing.</p>That was actually one of the best representations of DnD I have seen on TV. They actually had...SHOCKER...players rolling dice (in portrayals in Big Bang Theory and Community I think only the DM ever rolled dice) and complaining about taking 2 hours to fill out a character sheet.
Also pretty positive...one of the characters was endlessy mocking DnD but at the end of game was stoked on making it a weekly thing.MMCJawa2017-06-02T19:27:56ZRe: Forums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightKalshanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#22017-06-02T14:52:18Z2017-06-02T14:52:18Z<p>So how was it? (I've never watched the show. The initial promos when it first premiered with the brains in noodles turned my stomach.)</p>So how was it? (I've never watched the show. The initial promos when it first premiered with the brains in noodles turned my stomach.)Kalshane2017-06-02T14:52:18ZForums: Television: iZombie has a D&D episode on tonightSmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2udnr?iZombie-has-a-DD-episode-on-tonight#12017-06-02T23:44:03Z2017-05-30T18:44:35Z<p>What the subject says!</p>What the subject says!SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2017-05-30T18:44:35Z