If you gave a Marilith colossal long swords could she use them without penalty?


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Ancient Dragon Master wrote:
The title says it all

As long as they find a way to grow to colossal size they have no issue using longswords of the same size.


Even with multiple arms, I don't believe any weapon can go past "two handed" use. A Huge creature can use a Colossal 1h weapon as a 2h weapon. A Large creature can not use a 1H Colossal weapon, but they can use a colossal light weapon

A Large creature like Marilith could how a Huge sized long sword without problems, but they would still take the -2 to using an improperly sized weapon. Marilith only ignores penatlies from TWF, not from anything else.


She couldn't use them period.

A huge long sword is a two-handed weapon for a large creature. A gargantuan long sword is not a three-handed weapon, it is simply too big to wield.


whats marilith?


^Marilith.


i see now were i got confused i read it as "a colossal marilith longsword" and was wondering if they had just completely butchered the word mithril or if it was something different thanks for clarifying

and by the rules each size increase increases the handedness of a weapon so a large greatsword is a 3 handed weapon for a medium creature and if they so happen to have 3 arms to wield said weapon they should be able to, but best way i see to make this happen is to make a warmachine out of this creature and let them wield 6 gargantuan kukris instead.


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Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.

The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.

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Colossal longswords... is this for its Telekinesis at-will ability? IIRC, a colossal longsword weighs 16 32 lbs. (I was thinking Huge Longsword) Though if they were made of Obsidian they would only weigh 24 lbs...

I did spring that on a party once, though I merely used large longswords(ie, appropriately sized for the Marilith). The Marilith was also at the bottom of a 250' well (more like a vertical tunnel really, opened up into another room), using Project Image to engage the party at the top of the well. ...And I may have added the Graveknight template, and allowed Channel Destruction to apply to the TK'ed Swords since I considered them wielded.

They laughed off the Marilith, at first, when the barbarian charged through the image "Oh, its just an illusion" they said, "Its harmless!".
"Harmless?" she hissed at them and made a waving motion at one of the racks of large longswords in the room. I made a very deliberate motion marking off the rack from the room. There were 5 remaining racks.
15 attacks at +25 to hit for 2d6 +4d6 fire latter, the Wizard started slamming it with Resilient Spheres, Telekinetic Spheres, or something similar to block line of effect.

Oh, and there were 2-3 blade barriers down the well(radius 5' 20 high, 10'x10' well). It had intended to teleport up back up to the top and play cat-and-mouse after the party got to the bottom, but rolled a nat 1 on a dazing metamagicked spell, acid admixed fireball IIRC.

Ended somewhat anti-climatically, but I definitely had their attention after the opening volley.


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I've said it before, but Telekinesis + Colossal Sawtooth Sabres is the way to go. They are light as hell, even as a colossal weapon (32lbs per weapon I think is roughly the estimate) and deal a respectable amount of damage. I think you can get about 7 of those into the air at about 9th level for about 6d6 per weapon.


Garbage-Tier Waifu wrote:
I've said it before, but Telekinesis + Colossal Sawtooth Sabres is the way to go. They are light as hell, even as a colossal weapon (32lbs per weapon I think is roughly the estimate) and deal a respectable amount of damage. I think you can get about 7 of those into the air at about 9th level for about 6d6 per weapon.

I love that shrink item is a wand-able spell - thanks much for this!

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