Season 4 prior to next base set confirmed?


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From the recent blog about GenCon:

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The Adventure Card Guild has a full stock of events spanning all seasons of organized play, including Season of the Shackles, Season of the Righteous, and Season of the Runelords, Season of Plundered Tombs. We are putting final touches on the next season and hope to announce more information soon.

Sounds great, but I wonder what box that season would use? Would be awesome if they went all out crazy and had the season span multiple base sets (changing inbetween ADs), but I doubt that's going to happen.

Chronologically, I guess it would be SnS's turn again, but since I like that set the least, I hope that is not the case.

Silver Crusade

Doppelschwert wrote:
Would be awesome if they went all out crazy and had the season span multiple base sets (changing inbetween ADs), but I doubt that's going to happen.

That sounds logistically annoying (but playably interesting).


Maybe some mini-season again, ala Season of the Goblins? Considering the incoming Bad "Heroes" class deck, it may again have some thematically spin of an existing set... Season of the Unrighteous?


Longshot11 wrote:
Maybe some mini-season again, ala Season of the Goblins? Considering the incoming Bad "Heroes" class deck, it may again have some thematically spin of an existing set... Season of the Unrighteous?

Season of the Unrighteous is basically what I'm trying to do with Revenge of the Wicked in the homebrew section, but I wouldn't mind to have an official season that would be much better.

I hope it's a full season, as I found the Season of the Goblins to be too short for my taste. On the other hand, a continuation of SotG with AD3 and AD4 would be awesome.


Mixing sets would violate the Mike Selinker's Afghanistan rule, and cross-set Organized Play scenarios would pose some logistical challenges for stores. Part of the goal for the Organized Play program is to encourage customer interest and purchase of recently released Paizo products. If Paizo is trying to help stores push old inventory, then they've already done something wrong by not creating products customers wanted in the first place. If you prefer the glass is half-full explanation, what if customers loved the cross-set scenarios; but where then told "Sorry, I can't order that base set for you because it was three product cycles ago and it's out of print." Tantalizing customers with products they can't buy isn't good for retailer's either.

The idea of a mini-season for the villain decks sounds plausible to me and would be a good way to capitalize on the gimmick value of the decks. Good for you Doppelschwert that you're creating something new for the community. It's great to see people roll up their sleeves and make the things they want to see.


The Afghanistan rule has never been applied to Organized Play -- from day 1. (Mike posted about how it took a long time to talk him into this, but he finally agreed.)

A better point is the challenge for stores. Paizo isn't sending multiple sets out for free, so basically only stores who participated in the previous OP seasons could participate in a cross-set season. (Still -- isn't that probably the group that actually would participate in an off-set OP season?)

Out of print? I'm pretty sure every set and deck is still for sale on paizo.com, as well as elsewhere.


Autoduelist wrote:
The idea of a mini-season for the villain decks sounds plausible to me and would be a good way to capitalize on the gimmick value of the decks. Good for you Doppelschwert that you're creating something new for the community. It's great to see people roll up their sleeves and make the things they want to see.

Thanks for your encouragement. I actually want to include the boons of the antihero decks as optional setup for my custom AP, so while an official (mini-)season like would make my setup somewhat redundant, I'd still be looking forward to an official implementation.

elcoderdude wrote:

A better point is the challenge for stores. Paizo isn't sending multiple sets out for free, so basically only stores who participated in the previous OP seasons could participate in a cross-set season. (Still -- isn't that probably the group that actually would participate in an off-set OP season?)

That was my line of reasoning behind the original post as well. Furthermore, since official play already allows you to change inbetween seasons as long as you stay in your tier, it's already possible to hop around.

I could imagine something like a goblin themed mini season on AD3 and AD4 that takes place in SnS, for example. You could use that as continuation of the RotR goblin season or to exchange the middle part of SotS. Something like that could work, I think. Then you could make another mini season for AD5 and AD6 in another set, and you'd have a complete goblin season spanning multiple sets, which you could also interchange with the original season of that set. Stuff like that.


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Out of print? I'm pretty sure every set and deck is still for sale on paizo.com, as well as elsewhere.

Organized Play, as I understand it, is available globally if I'm to believe some of the job titles in the product credits. Can you say this in all the territories the Adventure Card game is sold in? I've seen incomplete APs for sale in my home state of Washington in the U.S.A., something that wouldn't seem possible given Paizo is located in Washington.

Organized play is a program designed to help retailers too. Customers buying the product from somebody else - especially online - isn't helping the retailer hosting the event.

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I could imagine something like a goblin themed mini season on AD3 and AD4 that takes place in SnS, for example. You could use that as continuation of the RotR goblin season or to exchange the middle part of SotS. Something like that could work, I think.

This sounds a bit more reasonable. I thought you were planning something like "let's use a villain from Wrath of the Righteous, Henchmen from Skull & Shackles, and Obstacles & Monsters from Rise of the Runelords" (I've seen suggestions for mixed scenarios like this on BGG.) You can imagine the logistical problems this would cause in a retail setting.

I suppose another options would be to provide the missing cards at the back of the digital file similar to what's already being done with the Organized Play scenarios. Rather than designing a new villain or henchman, Paizo could just add the necessary cards from previous sets.


Apparently, it uses the MM box and ties into the PFS season. Since the PFS revolves around Taldor, as far as I understood, I wonder how they will manage to pull that off thematically.

Silver Crusade

Since the PFS season also revolves around factions, I'm wondering if we're going to see factions in PACG. I do think it would be kind of cool to have faction missions in a card game. Exchange members need to collect boons, and Silver Crusade needs to kill monsters.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Doppelschwert wrote:
Apparently, it uses the MM box and ties into the PFS season. Since the PFS revolves around Taldor, as far as I understood, I wonder how they will manage to pull that off thematically.

It's a couple steps removed. Here's the deal:

The Pathfinder Adventure Path that's running from February to July is War for the Crown, set primarily in Taldor.

The Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild season that runs from August to July is Year of Factions' Favor, and its storyline contributes to the War for the Crown storyline as well as many other narratives. There will be scenarios set in Taldor, but there will also be a lot that are set elsewhere.

The Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild season that runs from August to July is Season of Factions' Favor, and its storyline will touch on the Year of Factions' Favor storyline. (The word "Taldor" does appear in the Season of Factions' Favor outline, but there are other countries that appear more often—and the word "Osirion" does not appear at all.)


Thanks for the clarification, sounds very intriguing!

Since you explicitly mention in which months the seasons run, and the time for the PACG season is double as long as it was so far, does that imply there is a change in the amount of scenarios?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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There are still 6 adventures, but we're inserting a 2-week gap between each adventure, since it turns out that it seems to take us a little bit more than a month to make an adventure.

We're also adding in a couple of special scenarios that will introduce the "evil iconics" from the Hell's Vengeance decks into the storyline.

Grand Lodge

Vic Wertz wrote:
We're also adding in a couple of special scenarios that will introduce the "evil iconics" from the Hell's Vengeance decks into the storyline.

EVILSQUEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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