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In the first printing of Ultimate Magic taking a Vow of Silence gained 1 ki/6 levels.
In the second printing of Ultimate Magic taking a Vow of Silence gained 1 ki/level.
However - the PRD (which contains all the other changes) still lists it as 1 ki/6 levels. Also, the errata document for changes from first printing to second printing does not have the Vow of Silence listed as a change to be made.
So, which is correct?
This isn't really an FAQ candidate so much as... the PRD not getting updated.
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This isn't really an FAQ candidate so much as... the PRD not getting updated.
or ... the second printing was changed in error and the PRD is correct.
Every other change in the second printing made it into the PRD, and don't forget that the Errata Document didn't note this as a change to be made.
So either the change got missed in the errata document and PRD or the change was put in by accident.
There's no way for us non-Paizonians to know which is true, but it should be a matter of minutes for an employee to find the internal changelog and determine the correct answer.
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It's possible that errata for Ultimate Magic got misapplied, or that the change was omitted from the errata document in error. Either way, what is printed in the book is the rule.
Website Feedback is a good place for someone to double check. I might also ping in Mark's thread to see if he feels like document diving.
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It's possible that errata for Ultimate Magic got misapplied, or that the change was omitted from the errata document in error. Either way, what is printed in the book is the rule.
I'm feeling a bit argumentative tonight but I'm trying not to be combative. So hopefully this post reads as constructive.
Either way, what is printed in the book is the rule.
The problem with this statement is. . . well, is that actually true? What makes the book "more official" than the errata document?
One part of my job involves documents under revision control, so I know how easy it is for the typesetter/layout artist/whatever the job title is to accidentally make a change that isn't requested. And those are the hardest to find during review. When the 256 page document gets back to me I check the relevant pages to make sure all the changes I had noted have been properly applied. I don't (usually) read the entire document cover-to-cover again to make sure there wasn't a word or two deleted elsewhere. Or (the most common occurrence) text that was deliberately changed in one place was accidentally copy-and-pasted over something else. It happens. The changelog doesn't note this accidental change because it was prepared based on the submitted desired changes. When someone who is reading that section points it out we make a note to revert back to the old text in the next revision and in the meantime put out a notice that the new text is incorrect.
I'm not saying that's what happened here. I suspect 1 per level is the correct number, and that the typeset errata document missed that change. It's a bit of a stretch to think that speaking only the truth (Vow of Truth, 1/5) should get you more ki than not speaking at all (Vow of Silence, 1/6). Anyway, my original point - and the reason for the thread title - is that it shouldn't be hard to check.
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I agree with your concerns. I just don't think the FAQ process is the best or fastest method to address them.
A simple explanation of the process Paizo uses could clear up the issue. That doesn't take a FAQ team or an entry, just a little dev attention.
Have you checked the Ultimate Magic Errata thread for the vows and posted there?
This has come up before, but to my knowledge was never answered.