Deadhand style and mythic ki.


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

I have a character in a mythic home-brew campaign that is quite powerful. He is a mythic Deadhand stylist monk, and using the master of many styles archetype, I have attained the Deadhand master feat at 6th level. My GM let me go through with this, even after I told him what the full extent of my power was. But that's not the issue. I am wondering how the Mythic Ki ability from champion mythic path (the ability that allows you to spend 1 mythic power to temporarily gain 2 ki) interacts with Deadhand style. It says in deadhead style: 'As long as the foe is affected by the temporary negative levels, you can’t recover the ki points you spent, effectively reducing the size of your ki pool.' So I can spend one mythic power to inflict two negative energy levels. Great. But what happens to that mythic power that I spent on it? Does my mythic power per day decrease, or do the negative energy levels disappear at the end of the round, because mythic ki only adds to your ki pool temporarily?

Thanks in advance!


I would focus on "effectively reducing the size of your ki pool." If your pool has a max of 100, and you're currently at 80, and you spend 2 normal ki to inflict some negative levels, you're then at 78 out of 98. If (instead) you use mythic ki, you're momentarily at 82/100, then you spend the two and are at 80/98. When the foe's negative levels go away you'll be at 80/100 again (assuming nothing happens in the meantime). Make sense?

Grand Lodge

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
I would focus on "effectively reducing the size of your ki pool." If your pool has a max of 100, and you're currently at 80, and you spend 2 normal ki to inflict some negative levels, you're then at 78 out of 98. If (instead) you use mythic ki, you're momentarily at 82/100, then you spend the two and are at 80/98. When the foe's negative levels go away you'll be at 80/100 again (assuming nothing happens in the meantime). Make sense?

So would my ki would be reduced, but I would have spent mythic on it, so neither my ki or my mythic would be reduced?


Just your average clone wrote:
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
I would focus on "effectively reducing the size of your ki pool." If your pool has a max of 100, and you're currently at 80, and you spend 2 normal ki to inflict some negative levels, you're then at 78 out of 98. If (instead) you use mythic ki, you're momentarily at 82/100, then you spend the two and are at 80/98. When the foe's negative levels go away you'll be at 80/100 again (assuming nothing happens in the meantime). Make sense?
So would my ki would be reduced, but I would have spent mythic on it, so neither my ki or my mythic would be reduced?

Your mythic power doesn't give a darn about the negative levels and behaves as it normally does. As for your ki being reduced... could you rephrase the question? Your max ki is reduced, your current ki gets back to where it started.

Grand Lodge

Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Just your average clone wrote:
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
I would focus on "effectively reducing the size of your ki pool." If your pool has a max of 100, and you're currently at 80, and you spend 2 normal ki to inflict some negative levels, you're then at 78 out of 98. If (instead) you use mythic ki, you're momentarily at 82/100, then you spend the two and are at 80/98. When the foe's negative levels go away you'll be at 80/100 again (assuming nothing happens in the meantime). Make sense?
So would my ki would be reduced, but I would have spent mythic on it, so neither my ki or my mythic would be reduced?
Your mythic power doesn't give a darn about the negative levels and behaves as it normally does. As for your ki being reduced... could you rephrase the question? Your max ki is reduced, your current ki gets back to where it started.

My question was: When you spend two ki, your max ki is temporarily reduced by two as well. If you spend one mythic power to gain those two ki points, does it still reduce the size of your ki pool, or does the mythic just count as the ki pool that is being reduced? Does that make sense?


If I am interpreting RAW correctly, your pool size is reduced by N any time you spend N ki to inflict negative levels, regardless of where that ki comes from.


You still decrees the max ki pool. But I do believe even if your effective ki pool is 0 you should be able to get ki from the mythic ability as it says you temporarily gain 2 ki.

You probably still cant use the negative levels though, because both the ki itself and the ki pool are being used as resources and your all out of one.


derpdidruid wrote:
You still decrees the max ki pool. But I do believe even if your effective ki pool is 0 you should be able to get ki from the mythic ability as it says you temporarily gain 2 ki.

No, the mythic ability is limited by your pool size, so if that's zero you can't use it.

Mythic Ki wrote:
As a free action, you can expend one use of mythic power to regain 2 points in your ki pool (up to your maximum).

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