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But I thought regular potions could also be "...applied to teammates, NPCs, Mounts, Etc"...?
Some people have a problem with an animal companion drinking a potion, because its not a trick.
Although it begs the question as to how they're alive as there is no eat trick...
Heck, just have them "Attack" it! Though that does take two tricks...
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Heck, just have them "Attack" it! Though that does take two tricks...
Teaching an animal to attack all creatures (including such unnatural creatures as undead and aberrations) counts as two tricks.
..Druids Local 704 would like to know what exactly are you making those steaks out of that they require 2 tricks to attack...
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Heck, just have them "Attack" it! Though that does take two tricks...
Teaching an animal to attack all creatures (including such unnatural creatures as undead and aberrations) counts as two tricks.
..Druids Local 704 would like to know what exactly are you making those steaks out of that they require 2 tricks to attack...
Flutter, put down the pointy stick.
We are talking about having an animal "attack" a potion, ...
"Some people have a problem with an animal companion drinking a potion, because its not a trick..."
I was merely pointing out that it would take TWO tricks to have them "attack" a potion...
But in reply to the D.L.704, I will point out that "steaks" are not a natural prey item of most creatures... well, maybe scavengers - but not most creatures selected as animal companions. Clearly an "unnatural" food item...
edit: as someone once said... "Spoilin' nice fish. Give it to us raw and w-r-r-riggling; you keep nasty chips."
I'll nominate the spell Blend With Surroundings.
Spirit-Bound Blade Oil
Gives it ghost touch and your choice of other enhancement, my favorite is vicious. Great way to deal with ghosts.
Potions
- Feather Fall
- Hold Person
- Gentle Repose
- Water Breathing (be careful when drinking)
Scrolls
- Read Magic
- Feather Fall
A poition of magic mouth is obscure and fun, but I don't know how useful it would be. I imagine it could be used as a plot device with a secret message passed along through the effect of the spell.
In case of emergencies, my Pathfinder Society fighter always carries a scroll of raise dead--right next to his heart--and always let's the party magic man know it's there.
Depends if you get to choose the 3rd level spiritualist version. Most of the spell lists with this have it at 4th level, which is ineligible for a potion/oil.This is a great find. I have another consumable to offer PFS players for dealing with incoporeal creatures.Spirit-Bound Blade Oil
Gives it ghost touch and your choice of other enhancement, my favorite is vicious. Great way to deal with ghosts.
For PFS under the rules for figuring out which spell list to use for potions it comes out to say spiritualist. Because no 9th level caster gets it, and then you use the lowest spell level's class.
Depends if you get to choose the 3rd level spiritualist version. Most of the spell lists with this have it at 4th level, which is ineligible for a potion/oil.This is a great find. I have another consumable to offer PFS players for dealing with incoporeal creatures.Spirit-Bound Blade Oil
Gives it ghost touch and your choice of other enhancement, my favorite is vicious. Great way to deal with ghosts.
Hmmm, what level is this for PFS?
All potions, scrolls, wands, and other consumables are made by clerics, druids, wizards, or psychics in Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild play. The only exceptions are spells that are not on the cleric, druid, wizard or psychic spell lists. For example, a scroll of lesser restoration must be purchased as a 2nd-level scroll created by a cleric and can’t be purchased as a 1st-level scroll created by a paladin.
Use the following rules for purchasing potions, scrolls, and wands.
• If a spell appears at different levels on two different lists, use the lower level spell to determine cost (for example, poison would be priced as a 3rd-level druid spell instead of a 4th-level cleric spell)...
It is not a cleric, druid, wizard or psychic spell, so it is an exception. Then the first clause says it uses the lowest level of the available makers (third).
Looks like it is a PFS potion. (EDIT: There be ninjas here.)
Keep Watch (KotIS 28) lets the caster stay up all night and still regain spells.
Seems like potions of Hold Person would be a fairly poor idea (especially if you can't get one with a high DC).
It's far more reliable when used on yourself.
A potion of daze will make you immune to the spell for 1 minute. Might be useful if you suspect the spell is going to be used against you.
note life bubble scroll must be purchased from the sorcerer/wizard list.
so level 5 CL9
just remember that potion DRINKERS have control of the spell, so gaseous form (D), hold person (D) and other debilitating potions where the spell has (D) or weasel wording won't work as the imbiber simply ends the spell, at best you might get 1 round out of it.
You ordinarily have to speak a word of dismissal (or gesture if it has S but no V component) to stop a spell and it costs you a standard action. So no to Hold Person, no to Gaseous Form (there's a rules thread where the consensus is RAW even the caster can't dismiss his own spell because he can't provide verbal components). It's not obvious that drinking a potion would somehow impart the knowledge of the dismissal word/gesture to you anyway.
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With 2 attack tricks, the animal companion will attack any creature... But that doesn't say anything about objects. I would say attacking an object is typically a sunder combat maneuver, however the maneuver trick will only allow it to use the maneuver on creatures it can attack.
Heck, just have them "Attack" it! Though that does take two tricks...
Teaching an animal to attack all creatures (including such unnatural creatures as undead and aberrations) counts as two tricks.
..Druids Local 704 would like to know what exactly are you making those steaks out of that they require 2 tricks to attack...
I disagree. The entire point of the second attack trick is to get the animal to attack things that it normally wouldn't think are creatures. Why wouldn't an inanimate object be included in that?
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I can toss in my melee class "Oh Crap" bag. I use a Pathfinder Pouch to hold everything since it's easily accessible and I can seal it in dangerous environments (underwater for example), but a handy haversack would probably work well enough.
-Air Crystals (useful in an emergency situation when you suddenly find yourself in vaccuum or underwater)
-Potion of Remove Blindness x2 (I mark the bottles with some clay or something so I can find them by feel)
-Potion of Fly (until I have a different way to get airborn reliably)
-Potion of Endure Elements x2 (Screw relying on party mages, they won't always be available. I save them for when I need a break from environment effects to recover since my fort tends to be solid)
-Potion of Invisibility x2 (Sometimes stealth is required, I don't do stealth well. Vanish also works if you just need to run around a corner on the cheap)
-Potion of Lesser Restoration x2 (gets rid of fatigue, annoying stat damage)
-Potion of Daylight (light fo' daaaaaays)
-Anti-Toxin x5 (usually I have great fort saves, but they're good to get rid of poison if you're infected or know you're likely to run into it a lot soon)
-Anti-Plague x5 (see anti-toxins)
-Smelling Salts (Effectively endless, safely wake up most targets while below 0hp but not dead, remove unconcious status effects)
-Soul Stimulants x2 (Negate the effects of 1 negative level for 24hours. Good to mitigate temporary energy drain impacts by at least 1 level)
-Troll Styptic x1-5 (alchemical healing, solid to save a player if you don't have access to a wand/potion for whatever reason)
All of the above fits within the 10lb limit of the pouch (because the alchemical items listed don't have a weight). I often also carry potions of remove deafness (because it's a pain to deal with long-term) and heroism elsewhere (counter negative levels or just because I love getting a +2 to hit for 50min). At higher levels I usually have a dozen of these so I'm always amped up for combat.
Again, this thread is in the ADVICE forum, so mark replies with PFS if it's PFS specific.This thread started in the PFS subforum. All posts are PFS specific. I don't know why it was moved.
Are we slipping into a PFS forum clique? Should us PFS players hang out in the advice forum more often?
That's the issue we have. the PFS thread isn't for advice for characters in PFS. It's for talking about PFS. The advice thread is currently home to advice for PFS and advice for not PFS.
So any thread asking for advice, like this one, will be moved to the advice thread from the PFS thread. The OP doesn't include that PFS is part of the deal since it was assumed by where the thread was. But when it's moved to the advice thread, there's no way to know that it used to be in PFS so people start answering with non-PFS advice.
yes, if you're asking for advice, but want PFS specific the correct way is to post in the advice, but mention PFS in your post/title
One spell I did not see mentioned that is a great wand spell is Bed of Iron (1st level wizard, paladin, magus, and a few others).
Lets you sleep in Medium or Heavy armor without being fatigued
Slightly off topic, but I no longer use potions at all. Oils can be used just as easily, and are able to be applied to teammates, NPCs, Mounts, Etc....this post seems to imply that at least some people think that Oils are better than regular potions because they "...are able to be applied to teammates, NPCs, Mounts, Etc...".
But I thought regular potions could also be "...applied to teammates, NPCs, Mounts, Etc"...?
The main reason this gets recommended so much is Multiple people can each apply an oil to a single target.
Barbarian drinks Potion of Enlarge Person.
Wizard Oils him up with Oil of Bull's Strength
Cleric Oils him up with Oil of Bear's Endurance
Rogue Oils him up with Lamp Oil instead of the Oil of Mage Armor just for the Lols.