Half-Orc Esquire Cavalier VMC Barbarian with a Skald Friend


Rules Questions


I want to make sure this works:

I'm an Esquire Cavalier VMC Barbarian. I get Rage at level 3. I use retraining rules to turn my Teamwork feat gained at level 1 into Amplified Rage. I can now grant that feat to my allies, but it's useless because they don't rage.

I have a Skald Aide-de-camp. The Skald can play some cool songs. One of them makes people rage, as per an ability called Inspired Rage.

Round 1 of combat begins. My Skald delays until after my turn. I use my Cavalier ability to grant Amplified Rage to everyone, which I can do even to non-half-orcs and people without Rage. Then the Skald uses Raging Song.

Can everyone benefit from +6 STR/CON so long as they do what Amplified Rage demands (stay adjacent or flank the same enemy)? My understanding is that Inspired Rage is not Barbarian Rage, but counts as Barbarian Rage for certain purposes - such as this one?


If an ally has her own rage class ability (such as barbarian’s rage, bloodrager’s bloodrage, or skald’s inspired rage), she may use the Strength, Constitution, and Will saving throw bonuses, as well as AC penalties, based on her own ability and level instead of those from the skald (still suffering no fatigue afterward). However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features.

I think the answer is no. You can't use things based on rage when affected by a inspired rage.


Blymurkla wrote:


I think the answer is no. You can't use things based on rage when affected by a inspired rage.

I can see where that argument stems from, which is why I posted this.

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However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features.

In this case though I'm not sure. Without using the unfair "well it doesn't list feats so feats are fine" type of logic (which is weird and silly), it's weird to me because while you require the Rage class feature to TAKE amplified rage, the wording - "raging" - in the Benefit text is potentially less specific? And Inspired Rage does refer to rage class features as "OTHER rage class features," which implies it's a rage class feature of some sort.

Skald's inspired rage is so screwy.

I'd love to see FAQs or developer quotes on this if possible, but more opinions on the matter would also be nice. I'd love for this combo to work - but if it doesn't, oh well.

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