So I am a new DM and am currently running Giantslayer. One of my players is a summoner who would like to have a gun. I said if we can make that work its fine. After a bit of research my friend told me that due to the giants having an awful touch ac, an 8 I was told, the player would never miss. I put a lot of work into making new npcs for this players back story and am really loving how its coming out, but with this new information Im afraid I will have to throw it all away because their purpose is no longer needed if I have to get rid of firearms. I changed the firearms a bit since we are gonna make it seem like they are VERY new to this campaign, so the chances of jamming and breaking are increased a lot. I was wondering if there was any way of increasing the giants touch ac?
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Dex, some spells, some spell like abilities, a few magic items, dodge, etc... can all increase touch AC.
However, remember a summoner won't have all the special class abilites of a gunslinger. So yes, he will hit with an attack most rounds. So what? It won't do a ton of damage and he has to be dangerously close to a giant. Plus he isn't casting spells which could be even more dangerous to the same targets (grease is only 1st level, create pit is only 2nd level, and giants usually have terrible reflex saves).
I would suggest not worrying about it too much. I wouldn't expect it to have all that much effect.
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Read the rules on firearms and know the range increment of the character's weapon: the attack roll won't always be vs. touch AC.
Don't get too caught up on the touch AC aspect of guns. Due to their lower reload time and the fact that there's no easy way for non-gunslingers to raise their damage output, they deal very little damage. Even the weakest giants have around 80 hit points, and being able to reliably deal small amounts of damage isn't going to be a big deal. In fact, given the unreasonably high cost of firearms and firearm ammunition and their annoying misfire rules it's really not worth it for non-gunslingers. I'd go so far as to suggest your player maybe look at wands instead if he wants to invest gold in a ranged attack.
Read the rules on firearms and know the range increment of the character's weapon: the attack roll won't always be vs. touch AC.
The first range increment of most firearms are what? 20 to 40 feet? Most giants have a speed of 40 feet plus at least 10 feet of range, maybe 20 or 30 feet with reach weapons.
Guns don't kill PCs. AoOs provoked by firing guns in melee kill PCs.
Those are two great points.
Unless it's an Eidolon pretending to be Kali with a gun in each hand.
Then firearms may be an issue.
*Considers stating up an Eidolon with pepperboxes and 1 hand free to turn them all*
That build would be absolutely terrible. It would eat up all your money to acquire that many firearms, they'd constantly be misfiring and requiring repairs (if you have four pepperboxes there's a 35% chance each round you'll get at least one misfire) and it wouldn't even do that much damage since you have no ways to boost pepperboxes above their baseline 1d8 damage per hit. Without gun training, guns are pretty pathetic.
This won't make a bit of difference. In fact, I'd bet after a few levels of shooting at giants and realizing that he's no longer effective in combat since he's not using what the class is designed for (summoning), your player will want to re-train any gun related feats and/or features. The most dangerous PC in our campaign (about to enter the final part of book 4) is an infiltrator ranger with favored enemy giant (only 2, with 2 on dragon, and 1 on orc). He's got the power to drop a couple frost giants per round when the party is buffed up. Even the fighter with the big-bad hammer from the first book can't compare. No, your gunslinger wanna-be won't break your game.
Not in this thread.
Go to the Giantslayer thread.
Edit: apparently it's not detailed there, either.
Alright, thank you everyone! ^_^