What kind of damage does a spectre deal?


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Most incorporeal undead have a damage type listed in their stat block. Shadows deal strength damage, wraiths deal negative energy, and ghosts deal damage via localized supernatural aging.

Spectres deal 1d8 untyped damage with no additional desciption + energy drain.

Wyrmwraiths are much in the same boat. Their bites are untyped damage + energy drain, their claws are untyped damage + divine dispelling, and their wings and tail just do untyped damage.

I feel like for both of these monsters it should be negative energy, but it isn't called out.
Anyone able to provide clarification on the damage dealt by these monsters?


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As you note, it isn't specified. I would treat it as a slam attack damage, meaning bludgeoning. Unless the wraith were "fluffed" as using a weapon (like a sword or morgul blade).

If you wish to treat is an negative energy damage, that seems to be as logical as anything else. But they already do energy drain, so treating is bludgeoning or slashing damage could work too.

AFAIK there is no further source of information on this topic.


Negative energy damage seems most logical and brings it in line with a wraith.

Bludgeoning damage on an incorporeal touch does not make sense to me.


Negative energy damage seems most logical and brings it in line with for example a wraith.

Bludgeoning damage on an incorporeal touch does not make sense to me.

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