Does the Courtly Hunter archetype leave animal companions stuck at tiny size?


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Courtly Hunter is an archetype in Ultimate Intrigue. It has a class feature, Subtle Companion, that reads:

Subtle Companion (Su): At 2nd level, a courtly hunter can transform her animal companion into a similar Tiny animal to allow it hide easily or even blend in and act as a spy. For instance, a tiger could be transformed into a housecat, a wolf could be transformed into a Tiny dog, a dire bat could be transformed into a Tiny flying fox, and so on. This functions as a polymorph effect, and the animal companion gains a +2 size bonus to Dexterity and a –4 size penalty to Strength (use the polymorph table on page 212 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook to adjust its ability score if the animal companion is larger than Medium). As a standard action, the courtly hunter can touch her animal companion to transform it.
This ability replaces precise companion.

A strict interpretation of this ability would mean that, once the courtly hunter polymorphs their animal companion with this ability, that they cannot reverse it (at least at least until level 7 when the Courtly Hunter gains the alternate form class feature). Is that how the ability is supposed to work?

Silver Crusade

Well it says "As a standard action, the courtly hunter can touch her animal companion to transform it.", not "to shrink it". So you can spend a Standard action to transform it back.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

+1 to you can turn it into and out of tiny.


Yep, transform is normal to tiny or tiny to normal.


I don't see anything saying it has a Duration or that you can turn them back. I would say it stays tiny

Silver Crusade

It flat out says you can spend a Standard Action to transform it.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

The polymorph spells are dismissible. It doesn't need to spell that out in the ability.


vhok wrote:
I don't see anything saying it has a Duration or that you can turn them back. I would say it stays tiny

Then that's WAY too much text. "Subtle Companion (Su): You have the option to permanently change your companion to tiny size." Do you think they just had WAY too much room in the book so they just put in several unneeded sentences?

Scarab Sages

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This is the sort of rule I like to use as a GM test. To know if sitting at a new GMs table is a waste of my time or not. If they rule that you can't change them back... then don't ever sit at their table.


KingOfAnything wrote:
The polymorph spells are dismissible. It doesn't need to spell that out in the ability.

It's not a spell it's a SU

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