paizo.com Recent Posts in Petition to allow Bladed Brushpaizo.com Recent Posts in Petition to allow Bladed Brush2017-04-07T22:33:27Z2017-04-07T22:33:27ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushKingOfAnythinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1462017-04-06T23:57:17Z2017-04-06T23:57:17Z<p><a href="http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ua23?Does-the-Whirling-Dervish-archetype-require#1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Whirling Dervish thread</a></p>Whirling Dervish threadKingOfAnything2017-04-06T23:57:17ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushMark Seifterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1452017-04-06T23:39:23Z2017-04-06T23:39:23Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">RSX Raver wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Seifter wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is supposed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents <b>her dervishes</b> from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some language tightening issues on reflection. </p>
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>However, parsing whirling dervish should probably be a new topic in a different subforum.</span> </blockquote><p>Is that an official ruling?
<p>Edit: I ask because the Dawnflower Dervish archetype for the bard clearly requires you to worship Saranrae and was published 3 years before the ACO, so why did the language on worshiper requirements loosen up in that 3 years? </blockquote><p>I can only tell you that it's supposed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae and provide the text from the archetype to underly that point. Forum posts from Paizo staff are never official rulings (except for PFS staff making PFS rulings).
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>However, please move whirling dervish discussion to another thread. I'll be happy to discuss it further there, but it's a derail in this thread.</span></p>RSX Raver wrote:Mark Seifter wrote:Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is supposed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents her dervishes from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some...Mark Seifter2017-04-06T23:39:23ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushRSX Raverhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1442017-04-06T23:32:30Z2017-04-06T23:26:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mark Seifter wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is suppoed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents <b>her dervishes</b> from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some language tightening issues on reflection. </p>
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>However, parsing whirling dervish should probably be a new topic in a different subforum.</span> </blockquote><p>Is that an official ruling?
<p>Edit: I ask because the Dawnflower Dervish archetype for the bard clearly requires you to worship Saranrae and was published 3 years before the ACO, so why did the language on worshiper requirements loosen up in that 3 years?</p>Mark Seifter wrote:Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is suppoed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents her dervishes from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some language tightening...RSX Raver2017-04-06T23:26:29ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushMark Seifterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1432017-04-07T19:27:27Z2017-04-06T21:21:32Z<p>Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is supposed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents <b>her dervishes</b> from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some language tightening issues on reflection. </p>
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>However, parsing whirling dervish should probably be a new topic in a different subforum.</span></p>Having done some of the development on ACO as my first task at Paizo, whirling dervish certainly is supposed to require a worshiper of Sarenrae (it says things like "Sarenrae’s desire for redemption prevents her dervishes from reveling in a foe’s defeat" and the intro to the archetype says it's the style of the sarenites, not Qadirans in general); this was before the language on worshiper requirements was tightened up. Whirling dervish definitely had some language tightening issues on...Mark Seifter2017-04-06T21:21:32ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushRyskyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1422017-04-06T21:19:20Z2017-04-06T21:15:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BigNorseWolf wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Doesn't whirling dervish require that you worship saranrae? I don't think its an accident that a lot of cool abilities are tied to a deity. Beyond the thematics, it creates a limited pool for possibly volotile combinations. </p>
<p></blockquote><p>I thought so too but reading over the archetype again although heavily influenced by Sarenrea there is no requirement to worship her (although there may have intended to be one), or at the very least be a current worshipper of her, with Sarenrae influencing so much of Qadiran culture it's as much a cultural Class as it is a religious one. So I could see a former worshipper of her's who converted to Shelyn.
<p>That being said expect for your GM to be extra wary if your character has this archetype and isn't a follower of the Dawnflower.</p>
<p><b>Edit:</b> ah, here we go.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">New Archetypes (Advanced Class Orgins p22) wrote:</div><blockquote>Swashbucklers from the Shackles and Qadira often choose one of the following archetypes.</blockquote><p>So it is a cultural Archetype more than a religious one, so a Qadiran Shelynite should be perfectly fine :3BigNorseWolf wrote:Doesn't whirling dervish require that you worship saranrae? I don't think its an accident that a lot of cool abilities are tied to a deity. Beyond the thematics, it creates a limited pool for possibly volotile combinations.
I thought so too but reading over the archetype again although heavily influenced by Sarenrea there is no requirement to worship her (although there may have intended to be one), or at the very least be a current worshipper of her, with Sarenrae...Rysky2017-04-06T21:15:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushBigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1412017-04-06T21:09:53Z2017-04-06T21:09:53Z<p>Doesn't whirling dervish require that you worship saranrae? I don't think its an accident that a lot of cool abilities are tied to a deity. Beyond the thematics, it creates a limited pool for possibly volotile combinations.</p>Doesn't whirling dervish require that you worship saranrae? I don't think its an accident that a lot of cool abilities are tied to a deity. Beyond the thematics, it creates a limited pool for possibly volotile combinations.BigNorseWolf2017-04-06T21:09:53ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushWei Ji the Learnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1402017-04-06T17:33:34Z2017-04-06T17:33:34Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Rysky wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Qadira is in the Inner Sea.</p>
<p>Shelyn is a core deity of the Inner Sea.</p>
<p>She may be highly worshiped in Taldor but that absolutely does <b>not</b> make her only a Taldan deity, she's worshiped all the way over in Tian Xia for starters, so I can safely say Shelyn is worshipped in Qadira.</p>
<p><b>EDIT:</b> The recent-ish (and awesome) Qadira, Jewel of the East book even flat out says Shelyn is one of the main deities worshiped in Qadira (no where near close to Sarenrae but still). </blockquote><p>Apologies for misconception and dated information then.
<p>•urge to snark resisted•</p>Rysky wrote:Qadira is in the Inner Sea.
Shelyn is a core deity of the Inner Sea.
She may be highly worshiped in Taldor but that absolutely does not make her only a Taldan deity, she's worshiped all the way over in Tian Xia for starters, so I can safely say Shelyn is worshipped in Qadira.
EDIT: The recent-ish (and awesome) Qadira, Jewel of the East book even flat out says Shelyn is one of the main deities worshiped in Qadira (no where near close to Sarenrae but still).
Apologies for...Wei Ji the Learner2017-04-06T17:33:34ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushKingOfAnythinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1392017-04-06T17:19:07Z2017-04-06T17:19:07Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jurassic Pratt wrote:</div><blockquote><p> So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.</p>
<p>Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse. </p>
<p>Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige Class. </blockquote><p>That is a very cool blend of styles. Definitely adding that to the character idea list.Jurassic Pratt wrote:So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.
Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse.
Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige...KingOfAnything2017-04-06T17:19:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushRyskyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1382017-05-04T11:23:39Z2017-04-06T16:19:36Z<p>Qadira is in the Inner Sea.</p>
<p>Shelyn is a core deity of the Inner Sea.</p>
<p>She may be highly worshiped in Taldor but that absolutely does <b>not</b> make her only a Taldan deity, she's worshiped all the way over in Tian Xia for starters, so I can safely say Shelyn is worshipped in Qadira.</p>
<p><b>EDIT:</b> The recent-ish (and awesome) Qadira, Jewel of the East book even flat out says Shelyn is one of the main deities worshiped in Qadira (no where near close to Sarenrae but still).</p>Qadira is in the Inner Sea.
Shelyn is a core deity of the Inner Sea.
She may be highly worshiped in Taldor but that absolutely does not make her only a Taldan deity, she's worshiped all the way over in Tian Xia for starters, so I can safely say Shelyn is worshipped in Qadira.
EDIT: The recent-ish (and awesome) Qadira, Jewel of the East book even flat out says Shelyn is one of the main deities worshiped in Qadira (no where near close to Sarenrae but still).Rysky2017-04-06T16:19:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushJurassic Pratthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1372017-04-06T16:08:47Z2017-04-06T16:08:47Z<p>Worshipper of Shelyn who was raised in Qadira and altered their traditional "dancing" style of fighting to work with a glaive.</p>
<p>I don't see any "mental gymnastics" there, especially since Shelyn is a deity of the arts who would certainly approve of you taking an artful fighting style and making it uniquely your own.</p>
<p>In fact, I think it's a really cool character concept.</p>Worshipper of Shelyn who was raised in Qadira and altered their traditional "dancing" style of fighting to work with a glaive.
I don't see any "mental gymnastics" there, especially since Shelyn is a deity of the arts who would certainly approve of you taking an artful fighting style and making it uniquely your own.
In fact, I think it's a really cool character concept.Jurassic Pratt2017-04-06T16:08:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushWei Ji the Learnerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1362017-04-06T16:04:36Z2017-04-06T16:04:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jurassic Pratt wrote:</div><blockquote><p> So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.</p>
<p>Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse. </p>
<p>Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige Class. </blockquote><p>Those mental gymnastics make my brain hurt from a 'story' perspective.
<p>Dervish has a very Qadiran 'feel' to it.</p>
<p>Bladed Brush, a Shelynite religious practice, is of a notably •Taldan• deity...</p>
<p>Sure, it could be done and possibly even work, but... that feels just horribly 'off' to me?</p>Jurassic Pratt wrote:So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.
Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse.
Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige...Wei Ji the Learner2017-04-06T16:04:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushJurassic Pratthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1352017-04-11T23:18:48Z2017-04-06T15:47:36Z<p>So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.</p>
<p>Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse. </p>
<p>Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige Class.</p>So slight derail, but I've found a way that allows Dex to damage with the bladed brush regardless of your reading of the feat without multiclassing, going rogue, or using the agile enchantment.
Whirling Dervish Swashbuckler gets dex to damage with any weapon she can use swashbucklers finesse with at level 4, and bladed brush makes glaives qualify for swashbuckler's finesse.
Probably the best way to do it, and it works great for entering into the Devoted Muse Prestige Class.Jurassic Pratt2017-04-06T15:47:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushLunehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1342017-04-06T16:16:48Z2017-04-06T15:19:09Z<p>HMM: Definitely truce. </p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>Anyway, no hard feelings. I do think it is a bit ironic that my supposed "irony quotes" were meant as the exact opposite and to take your advice and use your words. That is what leaves me with this feeling of failing despite my best efforts to come across as positive.</p>HMM: Definitely truce.
[Spoiler omitted]
Anyway, no hard feelings. I do think it is a bit ironic that my supposed "irony quotes" were meant as the exact opposite and to take your advice and use your words. That is what leaves me with this feeling of failing despite my best efforts to come across as positive.Lune2017-04-06T15:19:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushLeg o' Lambhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1332017-04-06T12:40:43Z2017-04-06T12:40:43Z<p>Lune, </p>
<p>Other peeps have explained why that statement was out of line. Anything I might add is superfluous at this point in time.</p>Lune,
Other peeps have explained why that statement was out of line. Anything I might add is superfluous at this point in time.Leg o' Lamb2017-04-06T12:40:43ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushHmmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1322017-04-06T06:58:55Z2017-04-06T06:58:55Z<p>Exactly! </p>
<p>Thank you, FG!</p>
<p>Hmm</p>Exactly!
Thank you, FG!
HmmHmm2017-04-06T06:58:55ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushFiddlersGreenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1312017-04-07T01:45:00Z2017-04-06T06:56:12Z<p>Let us celebrate that fact that you would both love to paint the baddies with the same bladed brush. =D</p>Let us celebrate that fact that you would both love to paint the baddies with the same bladed brush. =DFiddlersGreen2017-04-06T06:56:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushHmmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1302017-04-07T22:37:54Z2017-04-06T06:16:07Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lune wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I didn't use the quotes not as irony quotes. I have honestly never even heard of the term "irony quotes". I used them because they were someone else's words. That is the most common use of quotes. It wasn't meant as a sneer. </p>
<p>I feel like people are just looking for something to take the wrong way at this point. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, ya know? I use the words HMM suggested and it is still taken negatively. </blockquote><p>Lune, let me provide a summary of events as I see them, and explain why I have avoided coming back into this thread until your most recent post. From my viewpoint, the following happened.
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>___</p>
<p>If that was not your intent, perhaps we should now start over? As I stated before, it is hard to read tone on the internet. We are not in a zero-sum game here. No one has to be torn down for another to be lifted up. We can all help each other, believe in each other's good intent, and go forward. I would like to be able to feel that this was a matter of misunderstanding, and that we can move on and get back to this thread's original purpose — advocating for the legalization of Bladed Brush..</p>
<p>A great start would be if you accepted the apology I tried to give you earlier and offered one of your own. </p>
<p>Truce? </p>
<p>I'd really rather we all have a happy discussion about Bladed Brush. It's a Shelynite feat! So forgiveness and redemption is part of the greater package, right?</p>
<p>Hmm</p>Lune wrote:I didn't use the quotes not as irony quotes. I have honestly never even heard of the term "irony quotes". I used them because they were someone else's words. That is the most common use of quotes. It wasn't meant as a sneer.
I feel like people are just looking for something to take the wrong way at this point. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, ya know? I use the words HMM suggested and it is still taken negatively.
Lune, let me provide a summary of events as I see them, and...Hmm2017-04-06T06:16:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushKingOfAnythinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1292017-04-06T12:18:03Z2017-04-06T02:41:50Z<p>Parroting words is not the same thing as using them. Had you picked one and used it correctly in a sentence, it would have read much better, quotes or no. </p>
<p>You established a tone in your previous posts. It takes some effort to change how your posts are perceived after that. Acknowledging mistakes, apologies for offense, and gratitude for patience and assistance can all go a long way toward being perceived more positively.</p>Parroting words is not the same thing as using them. Had you picked one and used it correctly in a sentence, it would have read much better, quotes or no.
You established a tone in your previous posts. It takes some effort to change how your posts are perceived after that. Acknowledging mistakes, apologies for offense, and gratitude for patience and assistance can all go a long way toward being perceived more positively.KingOfAnything2017-04-06T02:41:50ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushLunehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1282017-04-06T02:21:37Z2017-04-06T02:19:54Z<p>I didn't use the quotes not as irony quotes. I have honestly never even heard of the term "irony quotes". I used them because they were someone else's words. That is the most common use of quotes. It wasn't meant as a sneer. </p>
<p>I feel like people are just looking for something to take the wrong way at this point. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, ya know? I use the words HMM suggested and it is still taken negatively.</p>I didn't use the quotes not as irony quotes. I have honestly never even heard of the term "irony quotes". I used them because they were someone else's words. That is the most common use of quotes. It wasn't meant as a sneer.
I feel like people are just looking for something to take the wrong way at this point. Damned if I do, damned if I don't, ya know? I use the words HMM suggested and it is still taken negatively.Lune2017-04-06T02:19:54ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushMisterSlankyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1272017-04-06T02:01:28Z2017-04-06T01:57:07Z<p>Irony quotes for phrasing previously described by you as "euphemism".</p>Irony quotes for phrasing previously described by you as "euphemism".MisterSlanky2017-04-06T01:57:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushKingOfAnythinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1262017-04-06T01:48:24Z2017-04-06T01:47:26Z<p>Yeah, the irony quotes kind of turn it into a sneer.</p>
<p>And only one verb is really necessary.</p>Yeah, the irony quotes kind of turn it into a sneer.
And only one verb is really necessary.KingOfAnything2017-04-06T01:47:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushYogoZunohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1252017-04-06T01:16:12Z2017-04-06T01:16:12Z<p>Perhaps it was the quotes around those words, which kind of imply the opposite of the words.</p>Perhaps it was the quotes around those words, which kind of imply the opposite of the words.YogoZuno2017-04-06T01:16:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushLunehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1242017-04-06T01:07:49Z2017-04-06T01:07:49Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Leg o' Lamb wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Ragoz wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Leg o' Lamb wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Lune wrote:</div><blockquote> I'm not the one to make these decisions, but this forum seems like the appropriate place to share my opinion and <b>'advocate', 'champion' and 'promote'</b> for it's inclusion into PFS.</blockquote>That statement is uncalled for. </blockquote>I must be missing how so. He says he can't make the rules but he can promote change on this forum. Sounds about right to me. I wouldn't want there to be no medium for discussion. </blockquote>My apologies. Instead of eliding Lune's sentence, I chose to quote it totus porcus. The end portion (bolded) is that for which is uncalled. I should have bolded the section in my original post. </blockquote><p>Ok, I sorta promised myself that I would stay out of this thread for a while but I'm truly curious on this one. What did I do wrong? I was following a suggestion of HMM's and using the verbiage that she suggested. Clearly Pete Winz is better at this than I am, but why is saying that I advocate, champion and promote taken poorly?Leg o' Lamb wrote:Ragoz wrote: Leg o' Lamb wrote: Lune wrote: I'm not the one to make these decisions, but this forum seems like the appropriate place to share my opinion and 'advocate', 'champion' and 'promote' for it's inclusion into PFS.
That statement is uncalled for. I must be missing how so. He says he can't make the rules but he can promote change on this forum. Sounds about right to me. I wouldn't want there to be no medium for discussion. My apologies. Instead of eliding Lune's...Lune2017-04-06T01:07:49ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushBigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1232017-04-05T22:19:48Z2017-04-05T22:19:48Z<p>I derped reading it a bit, but looking at what people want to munchkin the feat into..</p>I derped reading it a bit, but looking at what people want to munchkin the feat into..BigNorseWolf2017-04-05T22:19:48ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Petition to allow Bladed BrushRSX Raverhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u92r&page=3?Petition-to-allow-Bladed-Brush#1222017-04-06T03:19:24Z2017-04-05T21:56:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Snorter wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Lune wrote:</div><blockquote> No. Not just "certain specific abilities". It counts for "<b>all</b> feats and class abilities". You don't get to cherry pick things it does count as a one-handed peircing or slashing melee weapon for and other things that it does not. It counts for all. </blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Lau Bannenberg wrote:</div><blockquote>Bladed Brush doesn't make your off-hand count as empty, and Slashing Grace requires that. </blockquote>Since the glaive is now treated by the feat owner, as a one-handed weapon, why would the wielder <b>not</b> be using it one-handed? </blockquote><p>Because the feat does not say you may wield it with one hand, only that you can treat it as a one handed piercing or slashing weapon for purposes of feat and class ability interactions. This is important because it means you still get the option for 2 handed power attack or 1.5x weapon damage.
<p>If they wanted it to be wielded one handed, they would use the same style of verbage from the Phalanx Soldier archetype's ability,
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<div class="messageboard-quotee">Phalanx Fighting wrote:</div><blockquote> At 3rd level, when a phalanx soldier wields a shield, he can use any polearm or spear of his size <b>as a one-handed weapon.</b> </blockquote><p>Notice there is no mention of "treating" it as a one handed weapon.Snorter wrote:Lune wrote: No. Not just "certain specific abilities". It counts for "all feats and class abilities". You don't get to cherry pick things it does count as a one-handed peircing or slashing melee weapon for and other things that it does not. It counts for all.
Lau Bannenberg wrote:Bladed Brush doesn't make your off-hand count as empty, and Slashing Grace requires that.
Since the glaive is now treated by the feat owner, as a one-handed weapon, why would the wielder not be using...RSX Raver2017-04-05T21:56:19Z